Duke & Gus Edwards VS Reggie Bush & LenDale White

[Consigliere]

duke is not as explosive as Bush and i don't know anything about this Edwards guy.

with that said, probably every fan of a team in major college football think they have the next so and so.

Duke's first year was more explosive than Bush's first or second year. Not sure where you get that at all.

And if Duke were on that USC team, forget it.

Hear me now, Duke Johnson is flat out better than Reggie Bush. Period. EOS.

Agreed

There is also something extra in this kid that separates him on the football field. Reggie was never the toughest guy out there (joke), Duke looks like he isn't scared of anyone. He never runs scared or shys away from contact. He takes the hit and bounces back up. I love that about him.

 

[WhatTheHell]

duke is not as explosive as Bush

Statistics say otherwise.

Year 1 goes to Duke.

 

[killa1storm]

stats always tell the tale.

 

[Duval904]

listen man, i love Duke too but to say he is as explosive as bush is not being honest. i'm not talking about stats here. duke isn't as fast or as explosive as bush. bush was like a low 4.3 guy. you think duke is that fast?

 

[Ethnicsands]

listen man, i love Duke too but to say he is as explosive as bush is not being honest. i'm not talking about stats here. duke isn't as fast or as explosive as bush. bush was like a low 4.3 guy. you think duke is that fast?

Honestly, I appreciate your trolling the WEZ, but this is the football board. If you think it's not being 'honest' to say that Duke is every bit as explosive as Bush, then you either don't know the meaning of the term 'honest' or you're seriously misinformed.

And now you're trying to shift the debate to 'fast' from explosive? Devin Hester ain't the fastest guy in the NFL by a long shot, but no one ever was more explosive on returns. Duke ain't getting caught from behind, and he stops and starts like Barry Sanders. Was Sanders not as explosive because he wasn't as fast as Bush? Explosive is about creating opportunities and using them well. And Duke broke more long runs last year than Bush did in either of his first two years. You're just wrong here.

 

[killa1storm]

some of these dudes are straight homo for duke. the guy is a great and promising talent but he is nowhere near as explosive as bush. people are letting bush as a pro cloud their judgement.

why isn't it being mentioned that duke feasted on acc bottom feeders as well? against the better teams on the schedule he really didn't do that much. basically non-existent against fsu, ksu, nd, etc. but i guess dominating the likes of bc and bethune is enough to crown somebody goat.

 

[mapcane]

Reggie Bush was an elite college RB on a fantastic team. He did win a Heisman as a junior, so comparing Duke to him--right now--probably isn't fair. We'll know more about Duke's ceiling next year, when he's got a full year of lifting and track under his belt, and another spring and fall camp. Just based on what the naked eye can see, I think Bush is probably the faster athlete on a straight line, but I think Duke may end up the complete running back (due to his ability to run between the tackles and win in short yardage scenarios). If Duke's career ends up being comparable to Bush's, we'll be in good shape.

 

[gacericardo]

Wrong post

 

[Duval904]

listen man, i love Duke too but to say he is as explosive as bush is not being honest. i'm not talking about stats here. duke isn't as fast or as explosive as bush. bush was like a low 4.3 guy. you think duke is that fast?

Honestly, I appreciate your trolling the WEZ, but this is the football board. If you think it's not being 'honest' to say that Duke is every bit as explosive as Bush, then you either don't know the meaning of the term 'honest' or you're seriously misinformed.

And now you're trying to shift the debate to 'fast' from explosive? Devin Hester ain't the fastest guy in the NFL by a long shot, but no one ever was more explosive on returns. Duke ain't getting caught from behind, and he stops and starts like Barry Sanders. Was Sanders not as explosive because he wasn't as fast as Bush? Explosive is about creating opportunities and using them well. And Duke broke more long runs last year than Bush did in either of his first two years. You're just wrong here.

Sands, can u honestly say that Duke is more explosive than Reggie K. Bush? i mean seriously?

 

[WhatTheHell]

10.67 yards every time Duke touched the football in his freshman year.

10.64 yards every time Reggie touched the football in his freshman year.

 

[Ethnicsands]

some of these dudes are straight homo for duke. the guy is a great and promising talent but he is nowhere near as explosive as bush. people are letting bush as a pro cloud their judgement.

why isn't it being mentioned that duke feasted on acc bottom feeders as well? against the better teams on the schedule he really didn't do that much. basically non-existent against fsu, ksu, nd, etc. but i guess dominating the likes of bc and bethune is enough to crown somebody goat.

IMO you sound like a homo for Bush. Duke's first year was much better than Bush's first or second year. How you get from that to people are homos for Duke if they don't stick their tongue up Bush's *** is beyond me.

The bottom line is you are flat out wrong. Duke was far more explosive as a frosh than Bush was as a frosh or sophomore. Period. Period.

And Bush was helped a LOT by that team and coaching. He got the ball in space. They had a great OL. They had terrific QB play, great WRs. Other weapons. You say people are letting the NFL cloud their judgment, but IMO the NFL is really the missing piece of the puzzle here. Bush feasted on crappy teams when he had everything going for him.

 

[Ethnicsands]

10.67 yards every time Duke touched the football in his freshman year.

10.64 yards every time Reggie touched the football in his freshman year.

Stick to running plays. They were used very differently in the passing game.

 

[Ethnicsands]

listen man, i love Duke too but to say he is as explosive as bush is not being honest. i'm not talking about stats here. duke isn't as fast or as explosive as bush. bush was like a low 4.3 guy. you think duke is that fast?

Honestly, I appreciate your trolling the WEZ, but this is the football board. If you think it's not being 'honest' to say that Duke is every bit as explosive as Bush, then you either don't know the meaning of the term 'honest' or you're seriously misinformed.

And now you're trying to shift the debate to 'fast' from explosive? Devin Hester ain't the fastest guy in the NFL by a long shot, but no one ever was more explosive on returns. Duke ain't getting caught from behind, and he stops and starts like Barry Sanders. Was Sanders not as explosive because he wasn't as fast as Bush? Explosive is about creating opportunities and using them well. And Duke broke more long runs last year than Bush did in either of his first two years. You're just wrong here.

Sands, can u honestly say that Duke is more explosive than Reggie K. Bush? i mean seriously?

Not only can I say it, I think it's an irrefutable fact and anyone who disagrees is a hater or an idiot. Comparing Duke's freshmen year to Bush's junior year is rather unfair, though Duke's freshman year was good enough to get people to make the comparison I guess. But it is an iron clad fact that Duke's freshman year showed more explosiveness than Bush's freshman or sophomore years. Please tell me you disagree.

 

[killa1storm]

some of these dudes are straight homo for duke. the guy is a great and promising talent but he is nowhere near as explosive as bush. people are letting bush as a pro cloud their judgement.

why isn't it being mentioned that duke feasted on acc bottom feeders as well? against the better teams on the schedule he really didn't do that much. basically non-existent against fsu, ksu, nd, etc. but i guess dominating the likes of bc and bethune is enough to crown somebody goat.

IMO you sound like a homo for Bush. Duke's first year was much better than Bush's first or second year. How you get from that to people are homos for Duke if they don't stick their tongue up Bush's *** is beyond me.

The bottom line is you are flat out wrong. Duke was far more explosive as a frosh than Bush was as a frosh or sophomore. Period. Period.

And Bush was helped a LOT by that team and coaching. He got the ball in space. They had a great OL. They had terrific QB play, great WRs. Other weapons. You say people are letting the NFL cloud their judgment, but IMO the NFL is really the missing piece of the puzzle here. Bush feasted on crappy teams when he had everything going for him.

why the **** would i care about bush? i just hate over the top homerism.

you say bush feasted on crappy teams, really??? please check and see who the majority of duke's numbers came against...the dregs of your schedule. he has yet to step up against any above average team. y'all wan't to give him a seat at the table before he's earned it. looking at stats alone is retarded. bush shared carried with 3 backs his freshman year duke split carries with one. both averaged over 10 yards per touch, the difference is miniscule and bush did it against better comp.

 

[gacericardo]

Reggie bush is the best player I have ever seen in my lifetime at the collegiate level. Duke is the man and could definitely compare if he stays healthy but he needs to do what he did this year in 2013 and take us to the acccg first.

Come at me bro. Who you got?

Honestly, bro, it's such a dumb question I don't even know where to start. You're just wrong here. So obviously wrong it's kinda ridiculous to actually bother responding.

Just in the years since Reggie Bush: Luck and Griffin were better. Cam Newton was better. Vince Young was better. Tim Tebow was better. Adrian Peterson was better, but his college career was marred by injury so I'll give you a half-pass there. I personally think Percy Harvin was just as good, but that's debatable.

Going back just a few more years:

RBs who were better in college: Ladanian Tomlinson, McGahee, Ricky Williams, Edge, Warrick Dunn.

WRs: Calvin Johnson. Larry Fitzgerald.

QBs: Michael Vick.

Now that's just offensive players. If we add in defensive players, I'd say that at least Suh, Kuechly, Morgan and ST were better. Arguably Charles Woodson and Patrick Peterson too.

Now I don't know how old you are, but over the years, there have been many, many better college players. If you're old enough to have seen Barry Sanders and you're still porsting what you porsted, then you should just quit watching football altogether.

First I mentioned I was 28 so half this list doesn't really come into play for me. I'm talking strictly when I watched he was the best I saw. The ow and luck have an argument but not Vince young, griffin and certainly not Cam newton. That's a joke. Suh can certainly make an argument but not keuchly. Calvin Johnson was a beast but he wasn't the Calvin Johnson you see today. Blame that on Reggie ball but still in college he was not better than Reggie. Love Fitzgerald but his college career doesn't compare to Reggie. You didn't even name the best wr of the last ten years Michael Crabtree

 

[gacericardo]

Also mcgahee just doesn't have the body of work. Mcgahee was as special as I have see. We just didnt see enough. Not sure you can say what edge did here is comparable to Bush.

 

[Duval904]

i'm not comparing years, guys. i'm only talking about EXPLOSIVENESS. i've never seen Bush closed to being walked down, but i've seen Duke nearly get walked down by Duke defenders

 

[killa1storm]

listen man, i love Duke too but to say he is as explosive as bush is not being honest. i'm not talking about stats here. duke isn't as fast or as explosive as bush. bush was like a low 4.3 guy. you think duke is that fast?

Honestly, I appreciate your trolling the WEZ, but this is the football board. If you think it's not being 'honest' to say that Duke is every bit as explosive as Bush, then you either don't know the meaning of the term 'honest' or you're seriously misinformed.

And now you're trying to shift the debate to 'fast' from explosive? Devin Hester ain't the fastest guy in the NFL by a long shot, but no one ever was more explosive on returns. Duke ain't getting caught from behind, and he stops and starts like Barry Sanders. Was Sanders not as explosive because he wasn't as fast as Bush? Explosive is about creating opportunities and using them well. And Duke broke more long runs last year than Bush did in either of his first two years. You're just wrong here.

Sands, can u honestly say that Duke is more explosive than Reggie K. Bush? i mean seriously?

Not only can I say it, I think it's an irrefutable fact and anyone who disagrees is a hater or an idiot. Comparing Duke's freshmen year to Bush's junior year is rather unfair, though Duke's freshman year was good enough to get people to make the comparison I guess. But it is an iron clad fact that Duke's freshman year showed more explosiveness than Bush's freshman or sophomore years. Please tell me you disagree.

lulz

you don't even have to compare junior years. bush was running 10.3 out of hs and had the best shuttle (indicative of agility) on a usc roster full of studs as a freshman. also a state champion sprinter and also freakishly quick and stopped and started on a dime, norm chow called him the best tailback he'd ever seen. using stats alone to decipher who is more explosive is straight ****** logic.

 

[killa1storm]

i'm not comparing years, guys. i'm only talking about EXPLOSIVENESS. i've never seen Bush closed to being walked down, but i've seen Duke nearly get walked down by Duke defenders

homers gonna homer. bush had guys who went on to be top nfl draft picks looking like they were standing still. duke rips up bc and duke and is ready to be on the same level lol

 

[WhatTheHell]

10.67 yards every time Duke touched the football in his freshman year.

10.64 yards every time Reggie touched the football in his freshman year.

Stick to running plays. They were used very differently in the passing game.

I included EVERYTHING to try and keep it fair. If we did strictly run game, Duke has him by a full yard.


Also, Bush's best rushing games came against:

Hawaii
Notre Dame 5-7
Washington 6-6
Arizona 2-10
Oregon State 8-5


Bush also played on the #1 team in the country, if we are looking at more than stats.