D'Onofrio wants improved scoring defense

[Newkirk]

I hear this a lot about their talent at temple. who do you think developed that talent. I mean you make the nfl from temple you are obviously an overachiever. who helped the playerss develope?

No doubt. Not debating that at all.

I'm just sayin'...

People always talk about how they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent blah blah blah. Well they played against similar talent. It's not like they had the 16th ranked defense in the country after playing Alabama, Clemson, LSU, etc etc etc.

The fact that they played against similar talent weakens your argument.

With similar talent, they got results. It's logical to believe they can do the same thing at Miami.

What argument? I'm not saying they can't do it.

Follow me...

People say "they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent."

Ok? Well they played against Temple level talent, so the fact that they had the 16th ranked defense isn't overly impressive.

At Miami they'll play against Miami level talent. (or in most cases maybe slightly inferior)

The logic is that they had the 16th ranked defense at Temple and with Miami talent they'll be even better on defense. What I'm saying is that it's a wash.

How is the 16th rated defense not impressive? Only two non-BCS conference schools were rated higher than that (UCF and Kent St). The MAC, relative to other leagues, is an offensive league. That's a solid finish, especially when the defense was in the 100s across the board when they took over.

Now if they can produce results against similar talent, they should be able to do it at Miami. And once this thang is rolling, there won't be many teams on the schedule with similar talent.

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

 

[Consigliere]

No doubt. Not debating that at all.

I'm just sayin'...

People always talk about how they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent blah blah blah. Well they played against similar talent. It's not like they had the 16th ranked defense in the country after playing Alabama, Clemson, LSU, etc etc etc.

The fact that they played against similar talent weakens your argument.

With similar talent, they got results. It's logical to believe they can do the same thing at Miami.

What argument? I'm not saying they can't do it.

Follow me...

People say "they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent."

Ok? Well they played against Temple level talent, so the fact that they had the 16th ranked defense isn't overly impressive.

At Miami they'll play against Miami level talent. (or in most cases maybe slightly inferior)

The logic is that they had the 16th ranked defense at Temple and with Miami talent they'll be even better on defense. What I'm saying is that it's a wash.

How is the 16th rated defense not impressive? Only two non-BCS conference schools were rated higher than that (UCF and Kent St). The MAC, relative to other leagues, is an offensive league. That's a solid finish, especially when the defense was in the 100s across the board when they took over.

Now if they can produce results against similar talent, they should be able to do it at Miami. And once this thang is rolling, there won't be many teams on the schedule with similar talent.

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

New **** is going to be on the record when everything goes to **** this year. The smartest porster called it all. 5 days before the season and he is kunting up the boards left and right but at least he called it.

Everyone bow down to new **** who is introducing topics that have been debated to death since 2012, keep up the lords work newkunt.

Bless you and your family, just a porster speaking the truth.

 

[Hurricanemike32]

No doubt. Not debating that at all.

I'm just sayin'...

People always talk about how they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent blah blah blah. Well they played against similar talent. It's not like they had the 16th ranked defense in the country after playing Alabama, Clemson, LSU, etc etc etc.

The fact that they played against similar talent weakens your argument.

With similar talent, they got results. It's logical to believe they can do the same thing at Miami.

What argument? I'm not saying they can't do it.

Follow me...

People say "they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent."

Ok? Well they played against Temple level talent, so the fact that they had the 16th ranked defense isn't overly impressive.

At Miami they'll play against Miami level talent. (or in most cases maybe slightly inferior)

The logic is that they had the 16th ranked defense at Temple and with Miami talent they'll be even better on defense. What I'm saying is that it's a wash.

How is the 16th rated defense not impressive? Only two non-BCS conference schools were rated higher than that (UCF and Kent St). The MAC, relative to other leagues, is an offensive league. That's a solid finish, especially when the defense was in the 100s across the board when they took over.

Now if they can produce results against similar talent, they should be able to do it at Miami. And once this thang is rolling, there won't be many teams on the schedule with similar talent.

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

 

[Dingaan1828]

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

Que up Nights to assert that Temple had superior talent.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

The fact that they played against similar talent weakens your argument.

With similar talent, they got results. It's logical to believe they can do the same thing at Miami.

What argument? I'm not saying they can't do it.

Follow me...

People say "they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent."

Ok? Well they played against Temple level talent, so the fact that they had the 16th ranked defense isn't overly impressive.

At Miami they'll play against Miami level talent. (or in most cases maybe slightly inferior)

The logic is that they had the 16th ranked defense at Temple and with Miami talent they'll be even better on defense. What I'm saying is that it's a wash.

How is the 16th rated defense not impressive? Only two non-BCS conference schools were rated higher than that (UCF and Kent St). The MAC, relative to other leagues, is an offensive league. That's a solid finish, especially when the defense was in the 100s across the board when they took over.

Now if they can produce results against similar talent, they should be able to do it at Miami. And once this thang is rolling, there won't be many teams on the schedule with similar talent.

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

New **** is going to be on the record when everything goes to **** this year. The smartest porster called it all. 5 days before the season and he is kunting up the boards left and right but at least he called it.

Everyone bow down to new **** who is introducing topics that have been debated to death since 2012, keep up the lords work newkunt.

Bless you and your family, just a porster speaking the truth.

LOL,, that boy Nites/NewKirk is feeling the heat as the season nears and the inevitable happens. Full on desperation mode..

 

[Newkirk]

The fact that they played against similar talent weakens your argument.

With similar talent, they got results. It's logical to believe they can do the same thing at Miami.

What argument? I'm not saying they can't do it.

Follow me...

People say "they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent."

Ok? Well they played against Temple level talent, so the fact that they had the 16th ranked defense isn't overly impressive.

At Miami they'll play against Miami level talent. (or in most cases maybe slightly inferior)

The logic is that they had the 16th ranked defense at Temple and with Miami talent they'll be even better on defense. What I'm saying is that it's a wash.

How is the 16th rated defense not impressive? Only two non-BCS conference schools were rated higher than that (UCF and Kent St). The MAC, relative to other leagues, is an offensive league. That's a solid finish, especially when the defense was in the 100s across the board when they took over.

Now if they can produce results against similar talent, they should be able to do it at Miami. And once this thang is rolling, there won't be many teams on the schedule with similar talent.

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

Are you referring to 7-6 penn st? Please. Not impressed and they still lost the game.


Still waiting for any prolific team or offense that golden has shut down ever in his career.

In the meantime maybe someone can tell me which Mac team had more all Mac performers than temple in 2010 especially on the defensive side of the ball. **** add 2009 in there as well.

 

[BoroCane83]

D was worst ever last year. Absolute ****. BUT...... we took the risk of starting and playing a lot of young guys. Returning that many starters is nothing to scoff at. I think we make large improvements and have a top 50 D this year (barring injuries). Just a gut. This close to the season I'm drinking the Kool-Aid.

 

[Newkirk]

D was worst ever last year. Absolute ****. BUT...... we took the risk of starting and playing a lot of young guys. Returning that many starters is nothing to scoff at. I think we make large improvements and have a top 50 D this year (barring injuries). Just a gut. This close to the season I'm drinking the Kool-Aid.

I understand that Miami was young on the defensive side of the ball but you have to ask yourself the question...is golden the first coach in NCAA history to have to play a boatload of young guys on defense? If not how did those defenses perform?

 

[Angry Ibis]

Our defense was bad last year?

First I'm hearing about it.

Thanks for posting.

 

[Hurricanemike32]

What argument? I'm not saying they can't do it.

Follow me...

People say "they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent."

Ok? Well they played against Temple level talent, so the fact that they had the 16th ranked defense isn't overly impressive.

At Miami they'll play against Miami level talent. (or in most cases maybe slightly inferior)

The logic is that they had the 16th ranked defense at Temple and with Miami talent they'll be even better on defense. What I'm saying is that it's a wash.

How is the 16th rated defense not impressive? Only two non-BCS conference schools were rated higher than that (UCF and Kent St). The MAC, relative to other leagues, is an offensive league. That's a solid finish, especially when the defense was in the 100s across the board when they took over.

Now if they can produce results against similar talent, they should be able to do it at Miami. And once this thang is rolling, there won't be many teams on the schedule with similar talent.

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

Are you referring to 7-6 penn st? Please. Not impressed and they still lost the game.


Still waiting for any prolific team or offense that golden has shut down ever in his career.

In the meantime maybe someone can tell me which Mac team had more all Mac performers than temple in 2010 especially on the defensive side of the ball. **** add 2009 in there as well.

This has got to be the same guy as Nights. Always looking for examples and no matter what you offer up he will discount it because they don't live up to whatever standards he sets but won't let anybody in on what those standards might be. Notice he didn't answer the question that was asked to him. I left that site because of that guy and his merry band of agenda driven ratards. Unfortunately for all of us he might have found his way over here. Won't be long until this board gets ruined too.

 

[Hurricanemike32]

What argument? I'm not saying they can't do it.

Follow me...

People say "they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent."

Ok? Well they played against Temple level talent, so the fact that they had the 16th ranked defense isn't overly impressive.

At Miami they'll play against Miami level talent. (or in most cases maybe slightly inferior)

The logic is that they had the 16th ranked defense at Temple and with Miami talent they'll be even better on defense. What I'm saying is that it's a wash.

How is the 16th rated defense not impressive? Only two non-BCS conference schools were rated higher than that (UCF and Kent St). The MAC, relative to other leagues, is an offensive league. That's a solid finish, especially when the defense was in the 100s across the board when they took over.

Now if they can produce results against similar talent, they should be able to do it at Miami. And once this thang is rolling, there won't be many teams on the schedule with similar talent.

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

Are you referring to 7-6 penn st? Please. Not impressed and they still lost the game.


Still waiting for any prolific team or offense that golden has shut down ever in his career.

In the meantime maybe someone can tell me which Mac team had more all Mac performers than temple in 2010 especially on the defensive side of the ball. **** add 2009 in there as well.

Pretty soon we will have to hear about how young and inexperienced UCLA was on defense last year and they performed well...LOL.

 

[Newkirk]

How is the 16th rated defense not impressive? Only two non-BCS conference schools were rated higher than that (UCF and Kent St). The MAC, relative to other leagues, is an offensive league. That's a solid finish, especially when the defense was in the 100s across the board when they took over.

Now if they can produce results against similar talent, they should be able to do it at Miami. And once this thang is rolling, there won't be many teams on the schedule with similar talent.

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

Are you referring to 7-6 penn st? Please. Not impressed and they still lost the game.


Still waiting for any prolific team or offense that golden has shut down ever in his career.

In the meantime maybe someone can tell me which Mac team had more all Mac performers than temple in 2010 especially on the defensive side of the ball. **** add 2009 in there as well.

This has got to be the same guy as Nights. Always looking for examples and no matter what you offer up he will discount it because they don't live up to whatever standards he sets but won't let anybody in on what those standards might be. Notice he didn't answer the question that was asked to him. I left that site because of that guy and his merry band of agenda driven ratards. Unfortunately for all of us he might have found his way over here. Won't be long until this board gets ruined too.

The info you so called " offer'd up" was incorrect. 7-6 penn st did not finished the season ranked and they sucked. I think that's why you went off topic. You knew your info was garbage.

 

[Newkirk]

How is the 16th rated defense not impressive? Only two non-BCS conference schools were rated higher than that (UCF and Kent St). The MAC, relative to other leagues, is an offensive league. That's a solid finish, especially when the defense was in the 100s across the board when they took over.

Now if they can produce results against similar talent, they should be able to do it at Miami. And once this thang is rolling, there won't be many teams on the schedule with similar talent.

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

Are you referring to 7-6 penn st? Please. Not impressed and they still lost the game.


Still waiting for any prolific team or offense that golden has shut down ever in his career.

In the meantime maybe someone can tell me which Mac team had more all Mac performers than temple in 2010 especially on the defensive side of the ball. **** add 2009 in there as well.

Pretty soon we will have to hear about how young and inexperienced UCLA was on defense last year and they performed well...LOL.

Ucla? Please. Tcu was just as young especially on the d-line with 2 frosh including a true frosh dt and a 275lb soph dt and jr de. They led the big 12 in d while facing better offenses than the crappy offenses Miami faced. **** tcu was younger as a team playing a frosh qb iirc. Imagine if this team had to play one of goldens frosh qb's.

 

[CanesAreAble]

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

Are you referring to 7-6 penn st? Please. Not impressed and they still lost the game.


Still waiting for any prolific team or offense that golden has shut down ever in his career.

In the meantime maybe someone can tell me which Mac team had more all Mac performers than temple in 2010 especially on the defensive side of the ball. **** add 2009 in there as well.

Pretty soon we will have to hear about how young and inexperienced UCLA was on defense last year and they performed well...LOL.

Ucla? Please. Tcu was just as young especially on the d-line with 2 frosh including a true frosh dt and a 275lb soph dt and jr de. They led the big 12 in d while facing better offenses than the crappy offenses Miami faced. **** tcu was younger as a team playing a frosh qb iirc. Imagine if this team had to play one of goldens frosh qb's.

Cool.

Let's hire Gary Patterson.

 

[bbcane]

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

Are you referring to 7-6 penn st? Please. Not impressed and they still lost the game.


Still waiting for any prolific team or offense that golden has shut down ever in his career.

In the meantime maybe someone can tell me which Mac team had more all Mac performers than temple in 2010 especially on the defensive side of the ball. **** add 2009 in there as well.

Pretty soon we will have to hear about how young and inexperienced UCLA was on defense last year and they performed well...LOL.

Ucla? Please. Tcu was just as young especially on the d-line with 2 frosh including a true frosh dt and a 275lb soph dt and jr de. They led the big 12 in d while facing better offenses than the crappy offenses Miami faced. **** tcu was younger as a team playing a frosh qb iirc. Imagine if this team had to play one of goldens frosh qb's.

Lol
Definitely nights, i remeber him always bringing up tcu. I guess everyone left the scout board and he has no one to argue with.

Nights should stay in the west end zone or have limited post a day

 

[Hurricanemike32]

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

Are you referring to 7-6 penn st? Please. Not impressed and they still lost the game.


Still waiting for any prolific team or offense that golden has shut down ever in his career.

In the meantime maybe someone can tell me which Mac team had more all Mac performers than temple in 2010 especially on the defensive side of the ball. **** add 2009 in there as well.

This has got to be the same guy as Nights. Always looking for examples and no matter what you offer up he will discount it because they don't live up to whatever standards he sets but won't let anybody in on what those standards might be. Notice he didn't answer the question that was asked to him. I left that site because of that guy and his merry band of agenda driven ratards. Unfortunately for all of us he might have found his way over here. Won't be long until this board gets ruined too.

The info you so called " offer'd up" was incorrect. 7-6 penn st did not finished the season ranked and they sucked. I think that's why you went off topic. You knew your info was garbage.

Yep...definitely Nights. Any stat or piece of information he doesn't agree with or doesn't fit his agenda is garbage and he likes to put words in other dudes mouths along with other things. Never said they were ranked to finish the season just that they were when they played. I will do your research for you....they were ranked 23rd when they played.

 

[UMFarArcher]

The only thing that helped us on defense last season, was opposing quarterbacks' arms getting tired from throwing to all the wide-open receivers, and from receivers getting worn out from gaining all those yards.

By the second half of the fourth quarter, opposing quarterbacks and receivers were pooped.

 

[deleted4697]

If it can be respectable i would be content. Respectable being under 40. Anything more than that is bad. I would say i want it up to real hurricane standards like 20 or less, but thats asking for too much...or is it. But on the real if its in the 20's or less, see yall out here in cali jan 6!!!!!!!!!

 

[Newkirk]

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

Are you referring to 7-6 penn st? Please. Not impressed and they still lost the game.


Still waiting for any prolific team or offense that golden has shut down ever in his career.

In the meantime maybe someone can tell me which Mac team had more all Mac performers than temple in 2010 especially on the defensive side of the ball. **** add 2009 in there as well.

This has got to be the same guy as Nights. Always looking for examples and no matter what you offer up he will discount it because they don't live up to whatever standards he sets but won't let anybody in on what those standards might be. Notice he didn't answer the question that was asked to him. I left that site because of that guy and his merry band of agenda driven ratards. Unfortunately for all of us he might have found his way over here. Won't be long until this board gets ruined too.

The info you so called " offer'd up" was incorrect. 7-6 penn st did not finished the season ranked and they sucked. I think that's why you went off topic. You knew your info was garbage.

Yep...definitely Nights. Any stat or piece of information he doesn't agree with or doesn't fit his agenda is garbage and he likes to put words in other dudes mouths along with other things. Never said they were ranked to finish the season just that they were when they played. I will do your research for you....they were ranked 23rd when they played.

Penn st was a 7-6 unbanked team. They sucked.

 

[FullyERicht]

The fact that they played against similar talent weakens your argument.

With similar talent, they got results. It's logical to believe they can do the same thing at Miami.

What argument? I'm not saying they can't do it.

Follow me...

People say "they had the 16th ranked defense with Temple talent."

Ok? Well they played against Temple level talent, so the fact that they had the 16th ranked defense isn't overly impressive.

At Miami they'll play against Miami level talent. (or in most cases maybe slightly inferior)

The logic is that they had the 16th ranked defense at Temple and with Miami talent they'll be even better on defense. What I'm saying is that it's a wash.

How is the 16th rated defense not impressive? Only two non-BCS conference schools were rated higher than that (UCF and Kent St). The MAC, relative to other leagues, is an offensive league. That's a solid finish, especially when the defense was in the 100s across the board when they took over.

Now if they can produce results against similar talent, they should be able to do it at Miami. And once this thang is rolling, there won't be many teams on the schedule with similar talent.

So which great offensive team in the Mac did they beat/ shut down?

I don't know about the MAC offenses but they held a ranked Penn State team to 22 points at Beaver Stadium in 2010. That is five FG's and one TD. That ain't too bad for a team from Temple.

These arguments are so weak. What great high powered offenses would you expect a Temple team with Temple talent to stop? Would you only be satisfied if they were to shut down Oregon or Okie St.? Obviously their national ranking would have been significantly lower had they played in an FBS conference. They played very good on the defensive side of the ball against teams with talent similar and probably for the most part better talent than what they were able run out there. Don't forget we are still talking about Temple. Nobody is satisfied with the results from last years defense but let's not act fans on an Internet message board no more about people who have coached and played at a very high level of football.

Are you related to Miami Nights or PTF from the Scout site?

NewKirk IS MiamiNights.....this has already been established.

The real question is which of Shannon's kids is he?