Do we break out this season, or is it "wait till next year"?

[dk72]

It's utterly ridiculous to expect anything less. Senior QB who's in the running for a heisman, One of the best RB in the nation who's also in the running for a heisman. Senior laden offensive line with at least 3 pro prospects on it, 4-5 if you include the underclassman. Weapons at every position on offense. It's not ******* ridiculous to expect a bowl win and win the games you're supposed to win. If a team doesn't win the games it's supposed to then they underperformed. THAT'S on the coach. Settling for mediocrity is utterly ridiculous .

Not an AD in the nation would agree with that hot seat nonsense.

Oh yeah? Enlighten the board with your extensive knowledge and dealings with College Athletics Departments.

Putting a coach on the hot seat because some irrational silly fans are upset that a team didn't jump into the elite category (a 12 win season would make us a top 10 team) the year after playing a freshman-laden team and dealing with NCAA issues, and having a weak and depth-less defense is in the realm of the ignorant and irrational, not professional ADs.

You still didn't answer the implied question. What kind of dealings do you have with college AD's that gives you such insight to how they operate. Not your opinion again.

It's called history and past examples. A hot young coach who is highly regarded does not go on the hot seat because a few irrational fans wants a team to jump into the elite status from mediocre, especially following the NCAA issues we've had. Your hot seat comment is far more opinion than mine, as it is based only on the irrational wants of you and a segment of the fan population.

 

[dk72]

Yeah 12 wins is tough but he also mentioned that we should win 10 games and we could split UF or FSU. Which would put us at 11 regular season wins. So basically you are expecting both and ACCG and Bowl loss. Golden is on the hot seat with anything less than 10 wins with this team. I've stated before we should not have lost to UVA and UNC last season. That would have put us at 9-3. Anything less than 10 means we didn't make progress or we got upset. One of the two. UNC and UVA were upsets last season. But we UPSET NCST who started the season a top 25 team.

Just keeping it real if we win 9 games that means we stayed about the same as last season. No type of progressing was going on.

It doesn't matter that UNC and UVA were upsets, they were still losses. Winning 9 regular-season games would not be ideal, but would certainly not be even close to a reason for putting Golden on the "hot seat." Even the idea is preposterous. While we should be able to beat UNC and VT, losing to one of them doesn't mean the coach did a bad job. VT had a down year, but could very well be a very solid team this year. UNC is no slouch either, and while we are progressing faster than they are, it's not like they are just sitting around not getting any better either. Fedora is an excellent coach and UNC has recruited well. It's quite possible to play well and still lose one of those games if the other team has a "lights out" kind of game and/or there is one or two broken plays.

Again, any AD in the nation would scoff at the idea of Golden being on the hot seat any time soon barring a disaster of a season. Though I'm sure many of those AD's would be salivating at the thought, because he would be a hot commodity.

Very rarely do you see an AD publicly put a coach on "the hot seat". Its not the admin that would put Golden there. It's the media and the fan base. You think if Golden loses a game he shouldn't the south Florida media and our fans won't let him know how unacceptable that is? I like Golden and think he's the man for the job, but the fact is if he doesn't perform this season he's going to be very uncomfortable the following winter, and unfortunately it won't get any easier in 2014 either. THIS is the season for 12 wins with the players coming back.

A 9-win regular season doesn't mean that Golden didn't perform. There are players involved in the equation as well, and other teams. If the team shows progress, stays in every game (remember we got blown out in two of our games against quality opponents last year), and wins only 9 games, the only people talking "hot seat" for Golden would be those who know nothing about football or have incredibly unreasonable expectations. The same kinds of fans who called for Butch Davis to be fired early in his tenure. Like I said, AD's around the nation with coaching vacancies or even just average coaches would be licking their chops at the idea of Golden being available. Thankfully, I don't see our administration doing something that stupid now matter how ridiculous and vocal some of the fans may get.

It's not about "football knowledge". The attendance is already on life support, a sub -par season that does little to put more asses in seats with most certainly get any administrations attention. You think the South Florida media will do anything to drum up support for a 9 win team?

You think that changing coaches will suddenly fill seats? What coach out there will draw more people, that is a reasonable possibility of hiring? What coach will recruit better?

 

[dk72]

I think 10-2 regular season is what I feel we should do. Of course 1 injury to Morris and that all changes.

Think we will have our best year since 03 and will continue to build until we are a top 3 program again, competing for NC every year.

Another injury to Porter and Olsen Pierre and Robinson not outplaying their potential could also change everything. The play of our D-line can easily result in a 2-3 game swing.

I agree but name some teams that had a top 25 ranked defense and then drop to the 113th defense the very next season besides us. Dorito will fix it. People keep forgetting that the d ranked #22 in 2011. It was the turnovers that killed 2011 for us. Injury can affect any college football team. If Morris get's injured we probably win 7 games. If Duke goes down I'm sure someone will step up. I'm not sure who but someone will it happens all the time a big time schools where a star receiver or RB goes down and the team keeps rolling. Look at Nebraska and the Rex Burkhead situation. No one knew who Abullah was prior to Burkhead going down. The only injury that would stop this team is one to the QB.

Yes, but when we were ranked #22 we had Vernon and Forston, and some more depth on the line. Not saying our D won't improve, in fact I think it will by quite a bit. But that's heavily dependent on Porter's health and Pierre and Robinson becoming players (Pierre began to show flashes last year). But even with that, we have no depth on our defense, at all. It's something that is still being built.

 

[motorcitycane]

He stated a 12 win season or Golden is on the hot seat. Not many teams in all of college football end up with a 12 win season, even elite teams. If we end the season with 10 wins, we've made great progress. To say Golden is on the hot seat without 12 wins is flat out ridiculous, and pretty much ever AD in the nation would laugh at that idea.

Yeah 12 wins is tough but he also mentioned that we should win 10 games and we could split UF or FSU. Which would put us at 11 regular season wins. So basically you are expecting both and ACCG and Bowl loss. Golden is on the hot seat with anything less than 10 wins with this team. I've stated before we should not have lost to UVA and UNC last season. That would have put us at 9-3. Anything less than 10 means we didn't make progress or we got upset. One of the two. UNC and UVA were upsets last season. But we UPSET NCST who started the season a top 25 team.

Just keeping it real if we win 9 games that means we stayed about the same as last season. No type of progressing was going on.

It doesn't matter that UNC and UVA were upsets, they were still losses. Winning 9 regular-season games would not be ideal, but would certainly not be even close to a reason for putting Golden on the "hot seat." Even the idea is preposterous. While we should be able to beat UNC and VT, losing to one of them doesn't mean the coach did a bad job. VT had a down year, but could very well be a very solid team this year. UNC is no slouch either, and while we are progressing faster than they are, it's not like they are just sitting around not getting any better either. Fedora is an excellent coach and UNC has recruited well. It's quite possible to play well and still lose one of those games if the other team has a "lights out" kind of game and/or there is one or two broken plays.

Again, any AD in the nation would scoff at the idea of Golden being on the hot seat any time soon barring a disaster of a season. Though I'm sure many of those AD's would be salivating at the thought, because he would be a hot commodity.

Very rarely do you see an AD publicly put a coach on "the hot seat". Its not the admin that would put Golden there. It's the media and the fan base. You think if Golden loses a game he shouldn't the south Florida media and our fans won't let him know how unacceptable that is? I like Golden and think he's the man for the job, but the fact is if he doesn't perform this season he's going to be very uncomfortable the following winter, and unfortunately it won't get any easier in 2014 either. THIS is the season for 12 wins with the players coming back.

A 9-win regular season doesn't mean that Golden didn't perform. There are players involved in the equation as well, and other teams. If the team shows progress, stays in every game (remember we got blown out in two of our games against quality opponents last year), and wins only 9 games, the only people talking "hot seat" for Golden would be those who know nothing about football or have incredibly unreasonable expectations. The same kinds of fans who called for Butch Davis to be fired early in his tenure. Like I said, AD's around the nation with coaching vacancies or even just average coaches would be licking their chops at the idea of Golden being available. Thankfully, I don't see our administration doing something that stupid now matter how ridiculous and vocal some of the fans may get.

Even in our time of mediocrity Miami has done nothing but beat quality opponents. Even took some L's that we shouldn't have post 2003.
NCST started the season ranked #25. Guess what happened when we beat them. We almost came into the top 25. Go look at espn after that week where it says teams receiving votes and you will see Miami(FL) right there. That was a quality opponent. I think the D will crack top 50 with no more mental lapses and blown coverages. They know the D they know how Dorito wants to conduct business now.

 

[dk72]

Yeah 12 wins is tough but he also mentioned that we should win 10 games and we could split UF or FSU. Which would put us at 11 regular season wins. So basically you are expecting both and ACCG and Bowl loss. Golden is on the hot seat with anything less than 10 wins with this team. I've stated before we should not have lost to UVA and UNC last season. That would have put us at 9-3. Anything less than 10 means we didn't make progress or we got upset. One of the two. UNC and UVA were upsets last season. But we UPSET NCST who started the season a top 25 team.

Just keeping it real if we win 9 games that means we stayed about the same as last season. No type of progressing was going on.

It doesn't matter that UNC and UVA were upsets, they were still losses. Winning 9 regular-season games would not be ideal, but would certainly not be even close to a reason for putting Golden on the "hot seat." Even the idea is preposterous. While we should be able to beat UNC and VT, losing to one of them doesn't mean the coach did a bad job. VT had a down year, but could very well be a very solid team this year. UNC is no slouch either, and while we are progressing faster than they are, it's not like they are just sitting around not getting any better either. Fedora is an excellent coach and UNC has recruited well. It's quite possible to play well and still lose one of those games if the other team has a "lights out" kind of game and/or there is one or two broken plays.

Again, any AD in the nation would scoff at the idea of Golden being on the hot seat any time soon barring a disaster of a season. Though I'm sure many of those AD's would be salivating at the thought, because he would be a hot commodity.

Very rarely do you see an AD publicly put a coach on "the hot seat". Its not the admin that would put Golden there. It's the media and the fan base. You think if Golden loses a game he shouldn't the south Florida media and our fans won't let him know how unacceptable that is? I like Golden and think he's the man for the job, but the fact is if he doesn't perform this season he's going to be very uncomfortable the following winter, and unfortunately it won't get any easier in 2014 either. THIS is the season for 12 wins with the players coming back.

A 9-win regular season doesn't mean that Golden didn't perform. There are players involved in the equation as well, and other teams. If the team shows progress, stays in every game (remember we got blown out in two of our games against quality opponents last year), and wins only 9 games, the only people talking "hot seat" for Golden would be those who know nothing about football or have incredibly unreasonable expectations. The same kinds of fans who called for Butch Davis to be fired early in his tenure. Like I said, AD's around the nation with coaching vacancies or even just average coaches would be licking their chops at the idea of Golden being available. Thankfully, I don't see our administration doing something that stupid now matter how ridiculous and vocal some of the fans may get.

Even in our time of mediocrity Miami has done nothing but beat quality opponents. Even took some L's that we shouldn't have post 2003.
NCST started the season ranked #25. Guess what happened when we beat them. We almost came into the top 25. Go look at espn after that week where it says teams receiving votes and you will see Miami(FL) right there. That was a quality opponent. I think the D will crack top 50 with no more mental lapses and blown coverages. They know the D they know how Dorito wants to conduct business now.

Absolutely we CAN beat any team on the schedule. But with lack of depth (still a big problem on D this year) and lack of experience (was a big problem last year), no matter the talent level of the starters, comes lack of consistency. We are still a team that can beat a top 10 team one week and then lose to a UVA the next, though less so than last year. That's a function of the personnel, not the head coach. All it takes is an off game by a defensive starter or two and there is no one behind them to put in and while they sit down and get their focus back.

 

[motorcitycane]

Not an AD in the nation would agree with that hot seat nonsense.

Oh yeah? Enlighten the board with your extensive knowledge and dealings with College Athletics Departments.

Putting a coach on the hot seat because some irrational silly fans are upset that a team didn't jump into the elite category (a 12 win season would make us a top 10 team) the year after playing a freshman-laden team and dealing with NCAA issues, and having a weak and depth-less defense is in the realm of the ignorant and irrational, not professional ADs.

You still didn't answer the implied question. What kind of dealings do you have with college AD's that gives you such insight to how they operate. Not your opinion again.

It's called history and past examples. A hot young coach who is highly regarded does not go on the hot seat because a few irrational fans wants a team to jump into the elite status from mediocre, especially following the NCAA issues we've had. Your hot seat comment is far more opinion than mine, as it is based only on the irrational wants of you and a segment of the fan population.

Hold on let me pull up some examples of this.

Here's some big jumps from 2011-2012
Louisville
2011: 7-6
2012: 11-2

Texas A&M
2011:7-6
2012: 11-2

Ohio State
2011: 6-7
2012: 12-0

UCF
2011: 5-7
2012: 10-4

Tulsa
2011: 8-5
2012: 11-3

Notre Dame
2011: 8-5 (which we could've had with an ACCG or BOWL win)
2012: 12-0

Kent State
2011: 5-7
2012: 11-3

Oregon State
2011: 3-9
2012: 9-4

Florida
2011: 7-6
2012: 11-2

Utah State
2011: 7-6
2012: 11-2

San Jose State
2011: 5-7
2012: 11-2


That's just from 2011-2012. One year makes a HUGE difference and I believe that will be the case for Miami. You guys can keep that mediocrity mindset. I showed weaker conference teams to show that drastic changes don't just happen to the power 6 conferences they happen all over CFB. That's what makes CFB so exciting what a difference a year can make!

If those teams can do that why can't Miami?

Has the image of Miami by our fan base fallen that low?

 

[LA'Cane818]

Not an AD in the nation would agree with that hot seat nonsense.

Oh yeah? Enlighten the board with your extensive knowledge and dealings with College Athletics Departments.

Putting a coach on the hot seat because some irrational silly fans are upset that a team didn't jump into the elite category (a 12 win season would make us a top 10 team) the year after playing a freshman-laden team and dealing with NCAA issues, and having a weak and depth-less defense is in the realm of the ignorant and irrational, not professional ADs.

You still didn't answer the implied question. What kind of dealings do you have with college AD's that gives you such insight to how they operate. Not your opinion again.

Yeah you got me, I don't know ****

Well at least you admit it.

 

[motorcitycane]

It doesn't matter that UNC and UVA were upsets, they were still losses. Winning 9 regular-season games would not be ideal, but would certainly not be even close to a reason for putting Golden on the "hot seat." Even the idea is preposterous. While we should be able to beat UNC and VT, losing to one of them doesn't mean the coach did a bad job. VT had a down year, but could very well be a very solid team this year. UNC is no slouch either, and while we are progressing faster than they are, it's not like they are just sitting around not getting any better either. Fedora is an excellent coach and UNC has recruited well. It's quite possible to play well and still lose one of those games if the other team has a "lights out" kind of game and/or there is one or two broken plays.

Again, any AD in the nation would scoff at the idea of Golden being on the hot seat any time soon barring a disaster of a season. Though I'm sure many of those AD's would be salivating at the thought, because he would be a hot commodity.

Very rarely do you see an AD publicly put a coach on "the hot seat". Its not the admin that would put Golden there. It's the media and the fan base. You think if Golden loses a game he shouldn't the south Florida media and our fans won't let him know how unacceptable that is? I like Golden and think he's the man for the job, but the fact is if he doesn't perform this season he's going to be very uncomfortable the following winter, and unfortunately it won't get any easier in 2014 either. THIS is the season for 12 wins with the players coming back.

A 9-win regular season doesn't mean that Golden didn't perform. There are players involved in the equation as well, and other teams. If the team shows progress, stays in every game (remember we got blown out in two of our games against quality opponents last year), and wins only 9 games, the only people talking "hot seat" for Golden would be those who know nothing about football or have incredibly unreasonable expectations. The same kinds of fans who called for Butch Davis to be fired early in his tenure. Like I said, AD's around the nation with coaching vacancies or even just average coaches would be licking their chops at the idea of Golden being available. Thankfully, I don't see our administration doing something that stupid now matter how ridiculous and vocal some of the fans may get.

Even in our time of mediocrity Miami has done nothing but beat quality opponents. Even took some L's that we shouldn't have post 2003.
NCST started the season ranked #25. Guess what happened when we beat them. We almost came into the top 25. Go look at espn after that week where it says teams receiving votes and you will see Miami(FL) right there. That was a quality opponent. I think the D will crack top 50 with no more mental lapses and blown coverages. They know the D they know how Dorito wants to conduct business now.

Absolutely we CAN beat any team on the schedule. But with lack of depth (still a big problem on D this year) and lack of experience (was a big problem last year), no matter the talent level of the starters, comes lack of consistency. We are still a team that can beat a top 10 team one week and then lose to a UVA the next, though less so than last year. That's a function of the personnel, not the head coach. All it takes is an off game by a defensive starter or two and there is no one behind them to put in and while they sit down and get their focus back.

I agree with you. I know my expectations for THIS season are high. In 2014 I don't expect us to win 10+ games. I'm sorry, I just don't see it. But for this year I do see it. That's what has me stoked as a fan!

 

[dk72]

Oh yeah? Enlighten the board with your extensive knowledge and dealings with College Athletics Departments.

Putting a coach on the hot seat because some irrational silly fans are upset that a team didn't jump into the elite category (a 12 win season would make us a top 10 team) the year after playing a freshman-laden team and dealing with NCAA issues, and having a weak and depth-less defense is in the realm of the ignorant and irrational, not professional ADs.

You still didn't answer the implied question. What kind of dealings do you have with college AD's that gives you such insight to how they operate. Not your opinion again.

Yeah you got me, I don't know ****

Well at least you admit it.

Can't get much more childish than changing someone else's words. Congrats on that.

 

[dk72]

Very rarely do you see an AD publicly put a coach on "the hot seat". Its not the admin that would put Golden there. It's the media and the fan base. You think if Golden loses a game he shouldn't the south Florida media and our fans won't let him know how unacceptable that is? I like Golden and think he's the man for the job, but the fact is if he doesn't perform this season he's going to be very uncomfortable the following winter, and unfortunately it won't get any easier in 2014 either. THIS is the season for 12 wins with the players coming back.

A 9-win regular season doesn't mean that Golden didn't perform. There are players involved in the equation as well, and other teams. If the team shows progress, stays in every game (remember we got blown out in two of our games against quality opponents last year), and wins only 9 games, the only people talking "hot seat" for Golden would be those who know nothing about football or have incredibly unreasonable expectations. The same kinds of fans who called for Butch Davis to be fired early in his tenure. Like I said, AD's around the nation with coaching vacancies or even just average coaches would be licking their chops at the idea of Golden being available. Thankfully, I don't see our administration doing something that stupid now matter how ridiculous and vocal some of the fans may get.

Even in our time of mediocrity Miami has done nothing but beat quality opponents. Even took some L's that we shouldn't have post 2003.
NCST started the season ranked #25. Guess what happened when we beat them. We almost came into the top 25. Go look at espn after that week where it says teams receiving votes and you will see Miami(FL) right there. That was a quality opponent. I think the D will crack top 50 with no more mental lapses and blown coverages. They know the D they know how Dorito wants to conduct business now.

Absolutely we CAN beat any team on the schedule. But with lack of depth (still a big problem on D this year) and lack of experience (was a big problem last year), no matter the talent level of the starters, comes lack of consistency. We are still a team that can beat a top 10 team one week and then lose to a UVA the next, though less so than last year. That's a function of the personnel, not the head coach. All it takes is an off game by a defensive starter or two and there is no one behind them to put in and while they sit down and get their focus back.

I agree with you. I know my expectations for THIS season are high. In 2014 I don't expect us to win 10+ games. I'm sorry, I just don't see it. But for this year I do see it. That's what has me stoked as a fan!

I agree about expectations. I fully see us being able to make that step and will be disappointed if we don't. But that's a far cry from having "hot seat" discussions about Golden given the many reasons that we may not make that big leap. Saying Golden will be on the hot seat still strikes me as irrational.

 

[LA'Cane818]

Very rarely do you see an AD publicly put a coach on "the hot seat". Its not the admin that would put Golden there. It's the media and the fan base. You think if Golden loses a game he shouldn't the south Florida media and our fans won't let him know how unacceptable that is? I like Golden and think he's the man for the job, but the fact is if he doesn't perform this season he's going to be very uncomfortable the following winter, and unfortunately it won't get any easier in 2014 either. THIS is the season for 12 wins with the players coming back.

A 9-win regular season doesn't mean that Golden didn't perform. There are players involved in the equation as well, and other teams. If the team shows progress, stays in every game (remember we got blown out in two of our games against quality opponents last year), and wins only 9 games, the only people talking "hot seat" for Golden would be those who know nothing about football or have incredibly unreasonable expectations. The same kinds of fans who called for Butch Davis to be fired early in his tenure. Like I said, AD's around the nation with coaching vacancies or even just average coaches would be licking their chops at the idea of Golden being available. Thankfully, I don't see our administration doing something that stupid now matter how ridiculous and vocal some of the fans may get.

Even in our time of mediocrity Miami has done nothing but beat quality opponents. Even took some L's that we shouldn't have post 2003.
NCST started the season ranked #25. Guess what happened when we beat them. We almost came into the top 25. Go look at espn after that week where it says teams receiving votes and you will see Miami(FL) right there. That was a quality opponent. I think the D will crack top 50 with no more mental lapses and blown coverages. They know the D they know how Dorito wants to conduct business now.

Absolutely we CAN beat any team on the schedule. But with lack of depth (still a big problem on D this year) and lack of experience (was a big problem last year), no matter the talent level of the starters, comes lack of consistency. We are still a team that can beat a top 10 team one week and then lose to a UVA the next, though less so than last year. That's a function of the personnel, not the head coach. All it takes is an off game by a defensive starter or two and there is no one behind them to put in and while they sit down and get their focus back.

I agree with you. I know my expectations for THIS season are high. In 2014 I don't expect us to win 10+ games. I'm sorry, I just don't see it. But for this year I do see it. That's what has me stoked as a fan!

Only a loser's mentality thinks that your expectations are too high this season. I don't care what else is going on around the program we have a cake schedule, we don't leave the state until mid October. Combine that with a senior laden team and this team SHOULD have high expectations. If you don't hold this team to high expectations than you are a part of the reason the program has slid so far.

 

[LA'Cane818]

A 9-win regular season doesn't mean that Golden didn't perform. There are players involved in the equation as well, and other teams. If the team shows progress, stays in every game (remember we got blown out in two of our games against quality opponents last year), and wins only 9 games, the only people talking "hot seat" for Golden would be those who know nothing about football or have incredibly unreasonable expectations. The same kinds of fans who called for Butch Davis to be fired early in his tenure. Like I said, AD's around the nation with coaching vacancies or even just average coaches would be licking their chops at the idea of Golden being available. Thankfully, I don't see our administration doing something that stupid now matter how ridiculous and vocal some of the fans may get.

Even in our time of mediocrity Miami has done nothing but beat quality opponents. Even took some L's that we shouldn't have post 2003.
NCST started the season ranked #25. Guess what happened when we beat them. We almost came into the top 25. Go look at espn after that week where it says teams receiving votes and you will see Miami(FL) right there. That was a quality opponent. I think the D will crack top 50 with no more mental lapses and blown coverages. They know the D they know how Dorito wants to conduct business now.

Absolutely we CAN beat any team on the schedule. But with lack of depth (still a big problem on D this year) and lack of experience (was a big problem last year), no matter the talent level of the starters, comes lack of consistency. We are still a team that can beat a top 10 team one week and then lose to a UVA the next, though less so than last year. That's a function of the personnel, not the head coach. All it takes is an off game by a defensive starter or two and there is no one behind them to put in and while they sit down and get their focus back.

I agree with you. I know my expectations for THIS season are high. In 2014 I don't expect us to win 10+ games. I'm sorry, I just don't see it. But for this year I do see it. That's what has me stoked as a fan!

I agree about expectations. I fully see us being able to make that step and will be disappointed if we don't. But that's a far cry from having "hot seat" discussions about Golden given the many reasons that we may not make that big leap. Saying Golden will be on the hot seat still strikes me as irrational.

It strikes you as irrational because you have a loser mentality. This is year 3 for Golden. His schedule is borderline laughable. He has a senior team. If he can't get to a 10 win season with a win in the post season when do you expect him to? Again, I love Golden. I love everything he's done and continues to do, but its time for him to put up or shut up.

 

[motorcitycane]

Here is a list of more teams that made the jump in one season.
Clemson
2010: 6-7
2011: 10-4

Kansas State
2010: 7-6
2011: 10-3

Baylor
2010: 7-6
2011: 10-3

Cincinatti
2010: 4-8
2011: 10-3

Rutgers
2010: 4-8
2011: 9-4

Michigan
2010: 7-6
2011: 11-2

BYU:
2010: 7-6
2011: 10-3

Southern Miss
2010 8-5
2011 12-2

Houston
2010: 5-7
2011: 13-1

USC
2010: 8-5
2011: 10-2

Georgia
2010: 6-7
2011: 10-4

Arkansas State
2010:4-8
2011: 10-3

Teams are making jumps from 4-6 win season to 10+ win seasons but Miami can't? I don't believe that.

 

[dk72]

Here is a list of more teams that made the jump in one season.
Clemson
2010: 6-7
2011: 10-4

Kansas State
2010: 7-6
2011: 10-3

Baylor
2010: 7-6
2011: 10-3

Cincinatti
2010: 4-8
2011: 10-3

Rutgers
2010: 4-8
2011: 9-4

Michigan
2010: 7-6
2011: 11-2

BYU:
2010: 7-6
2011: 10-3

Southern Miss
2010 8-5
2011 12-2

Houston
2010: 5-7
2011: 13-1

USC
2010: 8-5
2011: 10-2

Georgia
2010: 6-7
2011: 10-4

Arkansas State
2010:4-8
2011: 10-3

Teams are making jumps from 4-6 win season to 10+ win seasons but Miami can't? I don't believe that.

Never said they can't or won't. But like I said, that's a far step removed from putting Golden on the hot seat if they don't, given the many factors in play.

 

[motorcitycane]

A 9-win regular season doesn't mean that Golden didn't perform. There are players involved in the equation as well, and other teams. If the team shows progress, stays in every game (remember we got blown out in two of our games against quality opponents last year), and wins only 9 games, the only people talking "hot seat" for Golden would be those who know nothing about football or have incredibly unreasonable expectations. The same kinds of fans who called for Butch Davis to be fired early in his tenure. Like I said, AD's around the nation with coaching vacancies or even just average coaches would be licking their chops at the idea of Golden being available. Thankfully, I don't see our administration doing something that stupid now matter how ridiculous and vocal some of the fans may get.

Even in our time of mediocrity Miami has done nothing but beat quality opponents. Even took some L's that we shouldn't have post 2003.
NCST started the season ranked #25. Guess what happened when we beat them. We almost came into the top 25. Go look at espn after that week where it says teams receiving votes and you will see Miami(FL) right there. That was a quality opponent. I think the D will crack top 50 with no more mental lapses and blown coverages. They know the D they know how Dorito wants to conduct business now.

Absolutely we CAN beat any team on the schedule. But with lack of depth (still a big problem on D this year) and lack of experience (was a big problem last year), no matter the talent level of the starters, comes lack of consistency. We are still a team that can beat a top 10 team one week and then lose to a UVA the next, though less so than last year. That's a function of the personnel, not the head coach. All it takes is an off game by a defensive starter or two and there is no one behind them to put in and while they sit down and get their focus back.

I agree with you. I know my expectations for THIS season are high. In 2014 I don't expect us to win 10+ games. I'm sorry, I just don't see it. But for this year I do see it. That's what has me stoked as a fan!

I agree about expectations. I fully see us being able to make that step and will be disappointed if we don't. But that's a far cry from having "hot seat" discussions about Golden given the many reasons that we may not make that big leap. Saying Golden will be on the hot seat still strikes me as irrational.

I just don't believe that the media will be receptive of him with a sub-par season. I'm all for Golden. The media could drive him out. The Miami job is one that many coaches would die for. Soon as we get out of this mess coaches are going to want to come here. But I don't want to dwell on this too long we've been at it long enough.

We just have to disagree about the Coach Golden thing.

 

[DaU83]

double digit wins next year and a bowl win. That's what i'd like to see. If we start the season and the D is playing lights out, we could be scary good.. i just don't see it though. We would need a lot of improvement upfront, IMO.

 

[LatinCane]

9-10 is where I am setting my expectations for year 3 of the Golden era. It also depends on how many freshman we start. Are the coaches satisfied with who we have returning at every position? General rule is, for every freshman you start, you have a loss. If we still need to start freshman at certain positions, then I don't expect more than 9 wins.

 

[Duvalco.Cane]

For all the **** we all talk about Randy, that bish won 9 games his third year.... With a bunch of talented puzzies. Al has to win 10 regular season games-period. Otherwise, like another poster said, if Golden doesn't win this year ( with all of the positives), when will he????

 

[Notsince1985]

To me this is the year 17 will produce with a 28ppg offense defense will improve with maturity. Also I coaching decesions will get better. We beat Florida and hopefully we compete with FSU 11-2

Last year we averaged 31.4 points per game, so we better average more than 28.

 

[Chino1986]

Hey this thread looks terrible.

What's goin on?