Do we break out this season, or is it "wait till next year"?

[dk72]

We will only be underdogs in two games, one's at home, so a split of those and beat the teams we should and that's an 11 win squad. A single post season win would mean 12 -2. That should be the expectation. It's not asking too much to beat the teams you're supposed to, and have a marquee win each season. If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat.

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "



Utterly ridiculous.

Is 8-9 wins acceptable to you? Is that a Miami standard to you? Is that how you feel about the program?

I'm not assuming that's why I decided to ask.

He stated a 12 win season or Golden is on the hot seat. Not many teams in all of college football end up with a 12 win season, even elite teams. If we end the season with 10 wins, we've made great progress. To say Golden is on the hot seat without 12 wins is flat out ridiculous, and pretty much ever AD in the nation would laugh at that idea.

 

[motorcitycane]

We will only be underdogs in two games, one's at home, so a split of those and beat the teams we should and that's an 11 win squad. A single post season win would mean 12 -2. That should be the expectation. It's not asking too much to beat the teams you're supposed to, and have a marquee win each season. If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat.

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "



Utterly ridiculous.

Is 8-9 wins acceptable to you? Is that a Miami standard to you? Is that how you feel about the program?

I'm not assuming that's why I decided to ask.

He stated a 12 win season or Golden is on the hot seat. Not many teams in all of college football end up with a 12 win season, even elite teams. If we end the season with 10 wins, we've made great progress. To say Golden is on the hot seat without 12 wins is flat out ridiculous, and pretty much ever AD in the nation would laugh at that idea.

Yeah 12 wins is tough but he also mentioned that we should win 10 games and we could split UF or FSU. Which would put us at 11 regular season wins. So basically you are expecting both and ACCG and Bowl loss. Golden is on the hot seat with anything less than 10 wins with this team. I've stated before we should not have lost to UVA and UNC last season. That would have put us at 9-3. Anything less than 10 means we didn't make progress or we got upset. One of the two. UNC and UVA were upsets last season. But we UPSET NCST who started the season a top 25 team.

Just keeping it real if we win 9 games that means we stayed about the same as last season. No type of progressing was going on.

 

[dk72]

We will only be underdogs in two games, one's at home, so a split of those and beat the teams we should and that's an 11 win squad. A single post season win would mean 12 -2. That should be the expectation. It's not asking too much to beat the teams you're supposed to, and have a marquee win each season. If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat.

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "



Utterly ridiculous.

Is 8-9 wins acceptable to you? Is that a Miami standard to you? Is that how you feel about the program?

I'm not assuming that's why I decided to ask.

He stated a 12 win season or Golden is on the hot seat. Not many teams in all of college football end up with a 12 win season, even elite teams. If we end the season with 10 wins, we've made great progress. To say Golden is on the hot seat without 12 wins is flat out ridiculous, and pretty much ever AD in the nation would laugh at that idea.

Yeah 12 wins is tough but he also mentioned that we should win 10 games and we could split UF or FSU. Which would put us at 11 regular season wins. So basically you are expecting both and ACCG and Bowl loss. Golden is on the hot seat with anything less than 10 wins with this team. I've stated before we should not have lost to UVA and UNC last season. That would have put us at 9-3. Anything less than 10 means we didn't make progress or we got upset. One of the two. UNC and UVA were upsets last season. But we UPSET NCST who started the season a top 25 team.

Just keeping it real if we win 9 games that means we stayed about the same as last season. No type of progressing was going on.

It doesn't matter that UNC and UVA were upsets, they were still losses. Winning 9 regular-season games would not be ideal, but would certainly not be even close to a reason for putting Golden on the "hot seat." Even the idea is preposterous. While we should be able to beat UNC and VT, losing to one of them doesn't mean the coach did a bad job. VT had a down year, but could very well be a very solid team this year. UNC is no slouch either, and while we are progressing faster than they are, it's not like they are just sitting around not getting any better either. Fedora is an excellent coach and UNC has recruited well. It's quite possible to play well and still lose one of those games if the other team has a "lights out" kind of game and/or there is one or two broken plays.

Again, any AD in the nation would scoff at the idea of Golden being on the hot seat any time soon barring a disaster of a season. Though I'm sure many of those AD's would be salivating at the thought, because he would be a hot commodity.

 

[motorcitycane]

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "



Utterly ridiculous.

Is 8-9 wins acceptable to you? Is that a Miami standard to you? Is that how you feel about the program?

I'm not assuming that's why I decided to ask.

He stated a 12 win season or Golden is on the hot seat. Not many teams in all of college football end up with a 12 win season, even elite teams. If we end the season with 10 wins, we've made great progress. To say Golden is on the hot seat without 12 wins is flat out ridiculous, and pretty much ever AD in the nation would laugh at that idea.

Yeah 12 wins is tough but he also mentioned that we should win 10 games and we could split UF or FSU. Which would put us at 11 regular season wins. So basically you are expecting both and ACCG and Bowl loss. Golden is on the hot seat with anything less than 10 wins with this team. I've stated before we should not have lost to UVA and UNC last season. That would have put us at 9-3. Anything less than 10 means we didn't make progress or we got upset. One of the two. UNC and UVA were upsets last season. But we UPSET NCST who started the season a top 25 team.

Just keeping it real if we win 9 games that means we stayed about the same as last season. No type of progressing was going on.

It doesn't matter that UNC and UVA were upsets, they were still losses. Winning 9 regular-season games would not be ideal, but would certainly not be even close to a reason for putting Golden on the "hot seat." Even the idea is preposterous. While we should be able to beat UNC and VT, losing to one of them doesn't mean the coach did a bad job. VT had a down year, but could very well be a very solid team this year. UNC is no slouch either, and while we are progressing faster than they are, it's not like they are just sitting around not getting any better either. Fedora is an excellent coach and UNC has recruited well. It's quite possible to play well and still lose one of those games if the other team has a "lights out" kind of game and/or there is one or two broken plays.

Again, any AD in the nation would scoff at the idea of Golden being on the hot seat any time soon barring a disaster of a season. Though I'm sure many of those AD's would be salivating at the thought, because he would be a hot commodity.

I'm a Golden fan and supporter. I think he's the man for the job without a doubt never debated that. I don't want him to be on the hot seat at all. But you will likely see those type of articles with less than 10 wins. Especially with the group of guys we have for the 2013-2014 season. It would be a let down. It's just that simple. Can the team go 12-0 yeah. Unlikely but sure. 11 games totally possible. 10 games the most likely outcome. I don't doubt UNC or VT UNC also has a senior QB returning as does VT. Let's be honest and inter conference game is tough. You have to win your conference to win championships and every team in every conference is trying to do that. Quite Frankly GT and VT have run the coastal for almost a decade now. Including last year when GT represented the coastal in the ACCG game. It doesn't matter if we are playing Duke. Every team is going to show up to play and to win. I just believe Miami is better than any team in the coastal and should be undefeated in coastal play.

That's my opinion and it's okay if you don't agree with me. I still respect your opinion. I just believe there will be some insanely heated fans including myself if we don't win 10+

 

[LA'Cane818]

We will only be underdogs in two games, one's at home, so a split of those and beat the teams we should and that's an 11 win squad. A single post season win would mean 12 -2. That should be the expectation. It's not asking too much to beat the teams you're supposed to, and have a marquee win each season. If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat.

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "

Utterly ridiculous.

It's utterly ridiculous to expect anything less. Senior QB who's in the running for a heisman, One of the best RB in the nation who's also in the running for a heisman. Senior laden offensive line with at least 3 pro prospects on it, 4-5 if you include the underclassman. Weapons at every position on offense. It's not ******* ridiculous to expect a bowl win and win the games you're supposed to win. If a team doesn't win the games it's supposed to then they underperformed. THAT'S on the coach. Settling for mediocrity is utterly ridiculous .

 

[Cane Steve]

Golden might be on the fan's hot seat with less than 10 wins, but not the administrations. If the man has a 2 win improvement after weathering through 2+ NCAA investigation, the admin wouldn't even think of touching him.

That being said, not a team we can't beat on that schedule. Not saying we're going undefeated, but we can hang with and beat every team we play this year.

 

[LA'Cane818]

We will only be underdogs in two games, one's at home, so a split of those and beat the teams we should and that's an 11 win squad. A single post season win would mean 12 -2. That should be the expectation. It's not asking too much to beat the teams you're supposed to, and have a marquee win each season. If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat.

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "



Utterly ridiculous.

Is 8-9 wins acceptable to you? Is that a Miami standard to you? Is that how you feel about the program?

I'm not assuming that's why I decided to ask.

He stated a 12 win season or Golden is on the hot seat. Not many teams in all of college football end up with a 12 win season, even elite teams. If we end the season with 10 wins, we've made great progress. To say Golden is on the hot seat without 12 wins is flat out ridiculous, and pretty much ever AD in the nation would laugh at that idea.

Yeah 12 wins is tough but he also mentioned that we should win 10 games and we could split UF or FSU. Which would put us at 11 regular season wins. So basically you are expecting both and ACCG and Bowl loss. Golden is on the hot seat with anything less than 10 wins with this team. I've stated before we should not have lost to UVA and UNC last season. That would have put us at 9-3. Anything less than 10 means we didn't make progress or we got upset. One of the two. UNC and UVA were upsets last season. But we UPSET NCST who started the season a top 25 team.

Just keeping it real if we win 9 games that means we stayed about the same as last season. No type of progressing was going on.

Thanks for actually reading my post and comprehending.

 

[dk72]

We will only be underdogs in two games, one's at home, so a split of those and beat the teams we should and that's an 11 win squad. A single post season win would mean 12 -2. That should be the expectation. It's not asking too much to beat the teams you're supposed to, and have a marquee win each season. If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat.

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "

Utterly ridiculous.

It's utterly ridiculous to expect anything less. Senior QB who's in the running for a heisman, One of the best RB in the nation who's also in the running for a heisman. Senior laden offensive line with at least 3 pro prospects on it, 4-5 if you include the underclassman. Weapons at every position on offense. It's not ******* ridiculous to expect a bowl win and win the games you're supposed to win. If a team doesn't win the games it's supposed to then they underperformed. THAT'S on the coach. Settling for mediocrity is utterly ridiculous .

Not an AD in the nation would agree with that hot seat nonsense.

 

[LA'Cane818]

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "



Utterly ridiculous.

Is 8-9 wins acceptable to you? Is that a Miami standard to you? Is that how you feel about the program?

I'm not assuming that's why I decided to ask.

He stated a 12 win season or Golden is on the hot seat. Not many teams in all of college football end up with a 12 win season, even elite teams. If we end the season with 10 wins, we've made great progress. To say Golden is on the hot seat without 12 wins is flat out ridiculous, and pretty much ever AD in the nation would laugh at that idea.

Yeah 12 wins is tough but he also mentioned that we should win 10 games and we could split UF or FSU. Which would put us at 11 regular season wins. So basically you are expecting both and ACCG and Bowl loss. Golden is on the hot seat with anything less than 10 wins with this team. I've stated before we should not have lost to UVA and UNC last season. That would have put us at 9-3. Anything less than 10 means we didn't make progress or we got upset. One of the two. UNC and UVA were upsets last season. But we UPSET NCST who started the season a top 25 team.

Just keeping it real if we win 9 games that means we stayed about the same as last season. No type of progressing was going on.

It doesn't matter that UNC and UVA were upsets, they were still losses. Winning 9 regular-season games would not be ideal, but would certainly not be even close to a reason for putting Golden on the "hot seat." Even the idea is preposterous. While we should be able to beat UNC and VT, losing to one of them doesn't mean the coach did a bad job. VT had a down year, but could very well be a very solid team this year. UNC is no slouch either, and while we are progressing faster than they are, it's not like they are just sitting around not getting any better either. Fedora is an excellent coach and UNC has recruited well. It's quite possible to play well and still lose one of those games if the other team has a "lights out" kind of game and/or there is one or two broken plays.

Again, any AD in the nation would scoff at the idea of Golden being on the hot seat any time soon barring a disaster of a season. Though I'm sure many of those AD's would be salivating at the thought, because he would be a hot commodity.

Very rarely do you see an AD publicly put a coach on "the hot seat". Its not the admin that would put Golden there. It's the media and the fan base. You think if Golden loses a game he shouldn't the south Florida media and our fans won't let him know how unacceptable that is? I like Golden and think he's the man for the job, but the fact is if he doesn't perform this season he's going to be very uncomfortable the following winter, and unfortunately it won't get any easier in 2014 either. THIS is the season for 12 wins with the players coming back.

 

[DiegoCane]

I think 10-2 regular season is what I feel we should do. Of course 1 injury to Morris and that all changes.

Think we will have our best year since 03 and will continue to build until we are a top 3 program again, competing for NC every year.

 

[dk72]

I think 10-2 regular season is what I feel we should do. Of course 1 injury to Morris and that all changes.

Think we will have our best year since 03 and will continue to build until we are a top 3 program again, competing for NC every year.

Another injury to Porter and Olsen Pierre and Robinson not outplaying their potential could also change everything. The play of our D-line can easily result in a 2-3 game swing.

 

[LA'Cane818]

We will only be underdogs in two games, one's at home, so a split of those and beat the teams we should and that's an 11 win squad. A single post season win would mean 12 -2. That should be the expectation. It's not asking too much to beat the teams you're supposed to, and have a marquee win each season. If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat.

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "

Utterly ridiculous.

It's utterly ridiculous to expect anything less. Senior QB who's in the running for a heisman, One of the best RB in the nation who's also in the running for a heisman. Senior laden offensive line with at least 3 pro prospects on it, 4-5 if you include the underclassman. Weapons at every position on offense. It's not ******* ridiculous to expect a bowl win and win the games you're supposed to win. If a team doesn't win the games it's supposed to then they underperformed. THAT'S on the coach. Settling for mediocrity is utterly ridiculous .

Not an AD in the nation would agree with that hot seat nonsense.

Oh yeah? Enlighten the board with your extensive knowledge and dealings with College Athletics Departments.

 

[motorcitycane]

Next season is when you guys should be talking about 8-9 games. With a RS FR or Williams as the starting QB. 2013 is not the year we should be getting "excited" to win 8-9 games.

Like LA Cane said the media and fan base is what get's people fired. Look at the pro's Chicago won 10 games but didn't make the playoffs and the HC got fired for some unproven brat. That's what I'm saying could happen to Golden, this fan base will go ape **** without 10+ wins.

 

[dk72]

Is 8-9 wins acceptable to you? Is that a Miami standard to you? Is that how you feel about the program?

I'm not assuming that's why I decided to ask.

He stated a 12 win season or Golden is on the hot seat. Not many teams in all of college football end up with a 12 win season, even elite teams. If we end the season with 10 wins, we've made great progress. To say Golden is on the hot seat without 12 wins is flat out ridiculous, and pretty much ever AD in the nation would laugh at that idea.

Yeah 12 wins is tough but he also mentioned that we should win 10 games and we could split UF or FSU. Which would put us at 11 regular season wins. So basically you are expecting both and ACCG and Bowl loss. Golden is on the hot seat with anything less than 10 wins with this team. I've stated before we should not have lost to UVA and UNC last season. That would have put us at 9-3. Anything less than 10 means we didn't make progress or we got upset. One of the two. UNC and UVA were upsets last season. But we UPSET NCST who started the season a top 25 team.

Just keeping it real if we win 9 games that means we stayed about the same as last season. No type of progressing was going on.

It doesn't matter that UNC and UVA were upsets, they were still losses. Winning 9 regular-season games would not be ideal, but would certainly not be even close to a reason for putting Golden on the "hot seat." Even the idea is preposterous. While we should be able to beat UNC and VT, losing to one of them doesn't mean the coach did a bad job. VT had a down year, but could very well be a very solid team this year. UNC is no slouch either, and while we are progressing faster than they are, it's not like they are just sitting around not getting any better either. Fedora is an excellent coach and UNC has recruited well. It's quite possible to play well and still lose one of those games if the other team has a "lights out" kind of game and/or there is one or two broken plays.

Again, any AD in the nation would scoff at the idea of Golden being on the hot seat any time soon barring a disaster of a season. Though I'm sure many of those AD's would be salivating at the thought, because he would be a hot commodity.

Very rarely do you see an AD publicly put a coach on "the hot seat". Its not the admin that would put Golden there. It's the media and the fan base. You think if Golden loses a game he shouldn't the south Florida media and our fans won't let him know how unacceptable that is? I like Golden and think he's the man for the job, but the fact is if he doesn't perform this season he's going to be very uncomfortable the following winter, and unfortunately it won't get any easier in 2014 either. THIS is the season for 12 wins with the players coming back.

A 9-win regular season doesn't mean that Golden didn't perform. There are players involved in the equation as well, and other teams. If the team shows progress, stays in every game (remember we got blown out in two of our games against quality opponents last year), and wins only 9 games, the only people talking "hot seat" for Golden would be those who know nothing about football or have incredibly unreasonable expectations. The same kinds of fans who called for Butch Davis to be fired early in his tenure. Like I said, AD's around the nation with coaching vacancies or even just average coaches would be licking their chops at the idea of Golden being available. Thankfully, I don't see our administration doing something that stupid now matter how ridiculous and vocal some of the fans may get.

 

[LA'Cane818]

I think 10-2 regular season is what I feel we should do. Of course 1 injury to Morris and that all changes.

Think we will have our best year since 03 and will continue to build until we are a top 3 program again, competing for NC every year.

I would be ok with 10-2 assuming Golden gets a marquee victory. If we lose to both UF and FSU then that means we missed an opportunity to put this team on the map. The man still has not had a marquee victory in his CAREER, not just while at Miami. On top of that he has had more than a few let down games while here. Again, I like the guy, I think he does more things right than wrong, but the only thing keeping him down is game day coaching. He's still a young coach and needs a marquee win.

 

[dk72]

We will only be underdogs in two games, one's at home, so a split of those and beat the teams we should and that's an 11 win squad. A single post season win would mean 12 -2. That should be the expectation. It's not asking too much to beat the teams you're supposed to, and have a marquee win each season. If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat.

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "

Utterly ridiculous.

It's utterly ridiculous to expect anything less. Senior QB who's in the running for a heisman, One of the best RB in the nation who's also in the running for a heisman. Senior laden offensive line with at least 3 pro prospects on it, 4-5 if you include the underclassman. Weapons at every position on offense. It's not ******* ridiculous to expect a bowl win and win the games you're supposed to win. If a team doesn't win the games it's supposed to then they underperformed. THAT'S on the coach. Settling for mediocrity is utterly ridiculous .

Not an AD in the nation would agree with that hot seat nonsense.

Oh yeah? Enlighten the board with your extensive knowledge and dealings with College Athletics Departments.

Putting a coach on the hot seat because some irrational silly fans are upset that a team didn't jump into the elite category (a 12 win season would make us a top 10 team) the year after playing a freshman-laden team and dealing with NCAA issues, and having a weak and depth-less defense is in the realm of the ignorant and irrational, not professional ADs.

 

[LA'Cane818]

He stated a 12 win season or Golden is on the hot seat. Not many teams in all of college football end up with a 12 win season, even elite teams. If we end the season with 10 wins, we've made great progress. To say Golden is on the hot seat without 12 wins is flat out ridiculous, and pretty much ever AD in the nation would laugh at that idea.

Yeah 12 wins is tough but he also mentioned that we should win 10 games and we could split UF or FSU. Which would put us at 11 regular season wins. So basically you are expecting both and ACCG and Bowl loss. Golden is on the hot seat with anything less than 10 wins with this team. I've stated before we should not have lost to UVA and UNC last season. That would have put us at 9-3. Anything less than 10 means we didn't make progress or we got upset. One of the two. UNC and UVA were upsets last season. But we UPSET NCST who started the season a top 25 team.

Just keeping it real if we win 9 games that means we stayed about the same as last season. No type of progressing was going on.

It doesn't matter that UNC and UVA were upsets, they were still losses. Winning 9 regular-season games would not be ideal, but would certainly not be even close to a reason for putting Golden on the "hot seat." Even the idea is preposterous. While we should be able to beat UNC and VT, losing to one of them doesn't mean the coach did a bad job. VT had a down year, but could very well be a very solid team this year. UNC is no slouch either, and while we are progressing faster than they are, it's not like they are just sitting around not getting any better either. Fedora is an excellent coach and UNC has recruited well. It's quite possible to play well and still lose one of those games if the other team has a "lights out" kind of game and/or there is one or two broken plays.

Again, any AD in the nation would scoff at the idea of Golden being on the hot seat any time soon barring a disaster of a season. Though I'm sure many of those AD's would be salivating at the thought, because he would be a hot commodity.

Very rarely do you see an AD publicly put a coach on "the hot seat". Its not the admin that would put Golden there. It's the media and the fan base. You think if Golden loses a game he shouldn't the south Florida media and our fans won't let him know how unacceptable that is? I like Golden and think he's the man for the job, but the fact is if he doesn't perform this season he's going to be very uncomfortable the following winter, and unfortunately it won't get any easier in 2014 either. THIS is the season for 12 wins with the players coming back.

A 9-win regular season doesn't mean that Golden didn't perform. There are players involved in the equation as well, and other teams. If the team shows progress, stays in every game (remember we got blown out in two of our games against quality opponents last year), and wins only 9 games, the only people talking "hot seat" for Golden would be those who know nothing about football or have incredibly unreasonable expectations. The same kinds of fans who called for Butch Davis to be fired early in his tenure. Like I said, AD's around the nation with coaching vacancies or even just average coaches would be licking their chops at the idea of Golden being available. Thankfully, I don't see our administration doing something that stupid now matter how ridiculous and vocal some of the fans may get.

It's not about "football knowledge". The attendance is already on life support, a sub -par season that does little to put more asses in seats with most certainly get any administrations attention. You think the South Florida media will do anything to drum up support for a 9 win team?

 

[LA'Cane818]

"If there aren't 12 wins including either an ACC championship or a bowl win, Golden needs to be on the hot seat. "

Utterly ridiculous.

It's utterly ridiculous to expect anything less. Senior QB who's in the running for a heisman, One of the best RB in the nation who's also in the running for a heisman. Senior laden offensive line with at least 3 pro prospects on it, 4-5 if you include the underclassman. Weapons at every position on offense. It's not ******* ridiculous to expect a bowl win and win the games you're supposed to win. If a team doesn't win the games it's supposed to then they underperformed. THAT'S on the coach. Settling for mediocrity is utterly ridiculous .

Not an AD in the nation would agree with that hot seat nonsense.

Oh yeah? Enlighten the board with your extensive knowledge and dealings with College Athletics Departments.

Putting a coach on the hot seat because some irrational silly fans are upset that a team didn't jump into the elite category (a 12 win season would make us a top 10 team) the year after playing a freshman-laden team and dealing with NCAA issues, and having a weak and depth-less defense is in the realm of the ignorant and irrational, not professional ADs.

You still didn't answer the implied question. What kind of dealings do you have with college AD's that gives you such insight to how they operate. Not your opinion again.

 

[dk72]

Golden might be on the fan's hot seat with less than 10 wins, but not the administrations. If the man has a 2 win improvement after weathering through 2+ NCAA investigation, the admin wouldn't even think of touching him.

That being said, not a team we can't beat on that schedule. Not saying we're going undefeated, but we can hang with and beat every team we play this year.

This I completely agree with, though I wouldn't even say the fan's hot seat, just a subset of the fans. Improving by two wins after everything this program has been through would be a positive. At the same time I agree that the team, playing at their best and without injury, could beat any team on their schedule, but not doing so is not solely a reflection on the coach, especially when depth is still lacking, especially on defense, and one or two of our "elite" players have a bad season would be very problematic as there are no real backups to replace them with.

 

[motorcitycane]

I think 10-2 regular season is what I feel we should do. Of course 1 injury to Morris and that all changes.

Think we will have our best year since 03 and will continue to build until we are a top 3 program again, competing for NC every year.

Another injury to Porter and Olsen Pierre and Robinson not outplaying their potential could also change everything. The play of our D-line can easily result in a 2-3 game swing.

I agree but name some teams that had a top 25 ranked defense and then drop to the 113th defense the very next season besides us. Dorito will fix it. People keep forgetting that the d ranked #22 in 2011. It was the turnovers that killed 2011 for us. Injury can affect any college football team. If Morris get's injured we probably win 7 games. If Duke goes down I'm sure someone will step up. I'm not sure who but someone will it happens all the time a big time schools where a star receiver or RB goes down and the team keeps rolling. Look at Nebraska and the Rex Burkhead situation. No one knew who Abullah was prior to Burkhead going down. The only injury that would stop this team is one to the QB.