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2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

Canesfan_134 said:
100% correct Coker and his staff only went after the highly rated kids. We had so many 5* recruits bust from his classes… partially due to lack of development but some where very overrated.

He did not evaluate talent at all. Butch was the master evaluator. He brung Santana Moss I’m on a track scholarship which is insane.
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Butch's evaluating & recruiting abilities goes even further than Santana. Couple that with Grade A Development and you have Canton Ohio.
 
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@DMoney from the 8/15 Bank


It is a slugfest for DT Kamarion Franklin (Memphis). Auburn took the upper hand last week, as we saw with some of the news coming out of the Plains. Miami has punched back and now has momentum. Still time before decision day. I know some get frustrated with these types of updates, but that is recruiting in 2023. Punches and counterpunches.​

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Miami believes they've taken back momentum. Lot of confidence since the Auburn push. The Auburn push was real, not Internet rumors.

 
lindend said:
@DMoney from the 8/15 Bank


It is a slugfest for DT Kamarion Franklin (Memphis). Auburn took the upper hand last week, as we saw with some of the news coming out of the Plains. Miami has punched back and now has momentum. Still time before decision day. I know some get frustrated with these types of updates, but that is recruiting in 2023. Punches and counterpunches.​

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Miami believes they've taken back momentum. Lot of confidence since the Auburn push. The Auburn push was real, not Internet rumors.

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"Momentum" does not matter here. This is not a basketball/ football game. This is the bag game.
You can have a kid silently committed 5 mins before he picks up the hat and then u get a call with an offer and it's dueces for the most part ( there are exceptions).


I dont know who wins out here in this recruitment. I will say though it will come down to $.Whoever makes a final offer that is not matched/ surpassed will win.
 
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Brooklyndee said:
We're very thorough on evaluations now. Also national or not we simply want the best FOOTBALL PLAYERS anywhere. It's not about how they test out in all instances. We don't care about your viral clips of a one handed Moss in flag football. We want kids that excel at what they are being brought here to do. This Harvard kid potentially is the perfect example. The kids a center. Besides a QB a center is the most responsible person on offense for success PRE SNAP. You don't want some athletic physical freak of nature who just so happens to be a moron for those spots.
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Good
 
Gaby has a few write ups this morning, too. He pointed out that one of the factors mentioned to him was whether Franklin will suck it up and be a bible -belt kid who leaves the SEC. Not many of his caliber do that and regardless of how many in his family are okay with a move to Miami, Franklin has to want it for himself...
 
Brooklyndee said:
What other fanbase ***** all over a guy as a horrible hire(as most have labeled him here)that the icon of college football coaching who they **** near all consider the goat literally hired him the year after to take over as the DC at his school. Have we not noticed when most coaches left here previously they ended up at Utah state and smu and other places similar. Well this horrible hire of a coach was poached by Nick saban to take over as the defensive coordinator of Alabama... Apparently not all agree he was horrible.
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Steele is fine but I don’t think he’s what Miami needed. He can go into a defensive room filled with well developed blue chip freaks and he will do well. But it didn’t seem he was a fit here for ‘rebuilding’ a weak defensive room. Just my observation and I understand if that’s the case; he’s an older dude.
 
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No_Fly_Zone said:
It's fair to acknowledge a few things here: (1) recruiting services 20 years ago were not as thorough or accurate as recruiting services today (because there were fewer companies/professionals involved then versus now, technology has made it much easier to find and evaluate kids across the country, and football camps have blown up); (2) the 247 composite is itself an aggregate of 4 separate recruiting services (not just one man's opinion); (3) recruiting rankings today are strongly impacted by quality offers (which makes them not just an "industry" consensus, but a reflection of HC consensus, to an extent); (4) recruiting rankings are a part of the evaluation picture, but don't tell the whole story and shouldn't be considered infallible; and (5) regardless, a middle ground approach is best when it comes to recruiting and individual team evaluations.

Expanding on that last point, no self-respecting coach should be recruiting off a list generated by Lemming/Rivals/ESPN/On3/247 or any other recruiting service. Any coaching staff worth a **** should be independently evaluating recruits. Coaches need to perform due diligence on these recruits and their evaluations need to be holistic. That said, a coaching staff who tries to "outsmart the room" by grabbing multiple kids outside the top 1000 as anything but developmental projects behind other top recruits is playing with fire.

A degree of concern over the 2024 recruiting results is warranted considering a good amount of kids have committed elsewhere and we are getting closer and closer to signing day. I don't think anyone is complaining about Mario's work ethic. He desperately wants to win and is working as hard as anyone in college football to get this program on track. But this is a results-oriented business. At the end of the day, a HC is judged off wins and losses.

Lastly, Deion is a POS and comes off as a lazy recruiter. I will gladly take Mario over Deion any day. Anyone who says otherwise is being unreasonable, is trolling, or is a hopeless, Deion-slurping troglodyte.
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Perfectly said.
 
CanesNation26 said:
If it’s this close down the stretch, my gut says he’s not leaving SEC territory.
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I Guess If You Say So GIF
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
It's fair to acknowledge a few things here: (1) recruiting services 20 years ago were not as thorough or accurate as recruiting services today (because there were fewer companies/professionals involved then versus now, technology has made it much easier to find and evaluate kids across the country, and football camps have blown up); (2) the 247 composite is itself an aggregate of 4 separate recruiting services (not just one man's opinion); (3) recruiting rankings today are strongly impacted by quality offers (which makes them not just an "industry" consensus, but a reflection of HC consensus, to an extent); (4) recruiting rankings are a part of the evaluation picture, but don't tell the whole story and shouldn't be considered infallible; and (5) regardless, a middle ground approach is best when it comes to recruiting and individual team evaluations.

Expanding on that last point, no self-respecting coach should be recruiting off a list generated by Lemming/Rivals/ESPN/On3/247 or any other recruiting service. Any coaching staff worth a **** should be independently evaluating recruits. Coaches need to perform due diligence on these recruits and their evaluations need to be holistic. That said, a coaching staff who tries to "outsmart the room" by grabbing multiple kids outside the top 1000 as anything but developmental projects behind other top recruits is playing with fire.

A degree of concern over the 2024 recruiting results is warranted considering a good amount of kids have committed elsewhere and we are getting closer and closer to signing day. I don't think anyone is complaining about Mario's work ethic. He desperately wants to win and is working as hard as anyone in college football to get this program on track. But this is a results-oriented business. At the end of the day, a HC is judged off wins and losses.

Lastly, Deion is a POS and comes off as a lazy recruiter. I will gladly take Mario over Deion any day. Anyone who says otherwise is being unreasonable, is trolling, or is a hopeless, Deion-slurping troglodyte.
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+2 Troglodyte
 
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pacusmc said:
No one on here knows what “overpaying” is at this moment.
As a matter of fact, I don’t think anyone knows what recruits are getting.
We heard 8million for Nico at Tennessee and 13 million fake offer from UF.

Reall easy to say “overpay if you’re serious about winning”.

You know who else is serious about winning?
Osu
Texas
USC
LSU
Bama
UGA
Not on his list.

At some point your serious about winning and at some point you’re a sucker.

This kid is good and has a high potential. But he hasn’t played one down and there is also the possibility of injury and even a higher possibility of being a bust based on recruiting history. Not every elite player ends up in the league.

At some point you have to take players and family who’s primary motivation isn’t just money.

I always tell people money can be in your top 3 or 5, but it should never be number 1 on your list when making a decision.

If someone’s motivation is only money then you’ll have to fight for them every time the transfer portal opens.
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Never?

If there are 5 factors to consider when making a decision, and only the money is better, then go with the other choice. But it should absolutely be a major consideration, and primary in many circumstances.
 
PRcane787 said:


Cliff notes anyone?
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Franklin hasn't relayed a decision to any school, Miami has recruited him harder than any program, reminding Franklin why Auburn was 3rd for so long and the keeping things focused on football & development. The biggest nugget was a top-ranked player from the Bible belt passing up an opportunity to play in the SEC would be a different move which isn't typically done by a player of his caliber in that region. There's plenty of people in his corner who are on board with Miami and there's nothing else that can be done at this point, next 24 hours are critical.

Hoping to get Ryan Wingo unofficially down for the A&M game and for his official in Dec, Miami wants to play the long game with him.

Offering Jermaine Dalias is based off their eval, not how they feel about ZP but there's also not a ton of confidence about him at the moment. His mom is involved and they've done a good job with her. The whole thing with Chaminade wanting guys committed before the season starts is what makes this complicated since he still wants to officially visit despite possibly committing soon
 
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JeddTheFisch said:
Never?

If there are 5 factors to consider when making a decision, and only the money is better, then go with the other choice. But it should absolutely be a major consideration, and primary in many circumstances.
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I never said that money shouldn’t be a major contributing factor. Of course it is.
I just feel that it’s unwise to make it the number one reason above everything else.

That doesn’t mean take a lowball offer. Of course you want whatever money you’re asking fo to be somewhere in the ballpark to be competitive.

Sometimes an offer that’s way higher than the competition and people forget about all the other things they want to take into consideration.

Money is like a super bad chick. I mean the type of girl that everyone stops what they’re doing when she walks in.
A lot of men are gonna ignore the bi polar disorder and the maybe or maybe not cocaine habit she has.
And who cares about the body count. The past is the past right?!
I’ve seen that dozens of times
 
Cane till he ain’t. As long as the money right.

Can’t tell me his relationships are better with AU than UM, I won’t listen. Don’t care if this kid lived in a shack under the TP drenched trees.
 
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