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WeBallinBoyz said:
If he can’t learn his lesson now, he’ll never learn.

No slam dunk DC will say yes if they have to agree on retaining current staff members and not get full autonomy over picking who THEY want on THEIR staff. Mario says he’ll let his DC’s have full control, yet his actions say completely opposite.

See Banks, see countless others. Stubborn is as Stubborn does.

It’s maddening, it’s asinine. Just leave that side of the ball alone man. What has Taylor and Nicholson (amongst others) proven to be protected like this? We’re still going to recruit just fine.

You’re being given funds to land a big time DC. Stop shooting yourself in the foot.
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If you’re the HC who’s an OL coach by training, and your defensive unit was a total failure, and you’re trying to hire the DC from a successful SEC defense, why on earth would you not let the SEC DC just slide on over with that winning staff and make him keep most of a failed staff???

But but but Dabo…
 
MedleyCane said:
Perhaps he didn't have good DBs and/or injury issues?
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From watching ND's defense, I'd wager Golden learned a lot more from Lou in his 2 years there versus his time spent under Paul Pasqualoni (who married my grade school gym teacher) in Detroit. I'm not saying go hire Lou and ignore everybody else, just that there is good precedent for someone who worked under him recently in the NFL having success in college.
 
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RVACane said:
If you’re the HC who’s an OL coach by training, and your defensive unit was a total failure, and you’re trying to hire the DC from a successful SEC defense, why on earth would you not let the SEC DC just slide on over with that winning staff and make him keep most of a failed staff???

But but but Dabo…
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And look, I know one of the stipulations was Willy Martinez. I get it, I think he flat out stinks. I’m not saying Banks was the savior, although he was a solid candidate imo.

But this doesn’t apply to merely Banks. This happened last go around, and this happened Year 1 when he hired Steele after hiring assistants. We called it an All-Star staff when it was merely an accumulation of washed and disinterested individuals with no cohesion.

Last year, again no cohesion. What’s the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different result. And no one knows insanity quite like Miami Hurricanes fans after the better part of two decades.

If you’re given (pretty much) all the money you need to make an attention-grabbing hire on that side of the ball, why would you implement roadblocks? Why self-inflict complications?

It just doesn’t make sense to me no matter how you spin it, and makes me question if quite honestly, he knows what he’s doing.
 
Anytime a top coordinator becomes a HC everyone assumes their hands are all over everything regarding that side of the ball but all the masochists here just assume its Golden in the lab orchestrated that defense all by himself. Money's on him flopping somewhere else by himself, idgaf what he's learned. We all know what the defense looked like last time he was left to his own devices, absolutely no feel or common sense.
 
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ristwasdown said:
Whats TheOriginalCane's role in the athletic department. Man seems to know the details about every conversation that happens and speaks in absolutes.
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He is in charge of ensuring Mario's *** is appropriately kissed. He is also responsible for telling you who and when to place the correct amount of blame. Any more details will require him to DM.
 
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RVACane said:
For those who have you on ignore - and it’s not as many as @Empirical Cane but still 🤣 , here’s a critical piece of information from your post…

“Banks wanted to bring someone that Mario didn't want, and Mario wanted to keep someone that Banks didn't want. While it's sad that the negotiation fell apart over two individual staff hires/retention…”
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I'm a high motor guy.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Here are all the P4 schools who won 10 regular season games in 2024:

Army
Memphis
SMU
Clemson
Miami
Arizona State
BYU
Iowa State
Oregon
Penn State
Indiana
Ohio State
Notre Dame

And here is the last time each of those programs won 10 regular season games:

Army - 2018
Memphis - 2019
SMU - 2023
Clemson - 2022
Miami - 2017
Arizona State - 2013
BYU - 2021
Iowa State - Never
Oregon - 2023
Penn State - 2023
Indiana - Never
Ohio State - 2023
Notre Dame - 2021

So what's my point here? Out of all these teams who won 10 games, by LEAST recently, they're ordered as Iowa State, Indiana, Arizona State, then Miami.

Now....let's not be ridiculous and say those programs have the same history and pedigree as Miami. They clearly don't, so the standard here is a bit higher. However, anybody in Ames posting about moving on from Matt Campbell? Lotta banner planes in Bloomington saying FIRE CIGNETTI? They thinking about stuffing Dillingham in the back of an El Camino and driving across the border?

Of course not. Every single one of those dudes could walk into any public establishment in their towns and slap their ***** on a barstool and people would cheer. Here, we talk about firing our coach. Again, not apples to apples in respect to program history. But we gotta have a semblance of perspective here. We're all sick about the way the year ended, no doubt. It's not exactly rainbows and puppy dogs.. We have concerns. But we just had the best year we've had in 7 years. We have won 10 games twice in twenty years, one of those coming this season. I just couldn't fathom making a thread like this.
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Wrong thread
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Here are all the P4 schools who won 10 regular season games in 2024:

Army
Memphis
SMU
Clemson
Miami
Arizona State
BYU
Iowa State
Oregon
Penn State
Indiana
Ohio State
Notre Dame

And here is the last time each of those programs won 10 regular season games:

Army - 2018
Memphis - 2019
SMU - 2023
Clemson - 2022
Miami - 2017
Arizona State - 2013
BYU - 2021
Iowa State - Never
Oregon - 2023
Penn State - 2023
Indiana - Never
Ohio State - 2023
Notre Dame - 2021

So what's my point here? Out of all these teams who won 10 games, by LEAST recently, they're ordered as Iowa State, Indiana, Arizona State, then Miami.

Now....let's not be ridiculous and say those programs have the same history and pedigree as Miami. They clearly don't, so the standard here is a bit higher. However, anybody in Ames posting about moving on from Matt Campbell? Lotta banner planes in Bloomington saying FIRE CIGNETTI? They thinking about stuffing Dillingham in the back of an El Camino and driving across the border?

Of course not. Every single one of those dudes could walk into any public establishment in their towns and slap their ***** on a barstool and people would cheer. Here, we talk about firing our coach. Again, not apples to apples in respect to program history. But we gotta have a semblance of perspective here. We're all sick about the way the year ended, no doubt. It's not exactly rainbows and puppy dogs.. We have concerns. But we just had the best year we've had in 7 years. We have won 10 games twice in twenty years, one of those coming this season. I just couldn't fathom making a thread like this.
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You can’t fathom making a thread about DC candidates?
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
And look, I know one of the stipulations was Willy Martinez. I get it, I think he flat out stinks. I’m not saying Banks was the savior, although he was a solid candidate imo.

But this doesn’t apply to merely Banks. This happened last go around, and this happened Year 1 when he hired Steele after hiring assistants. We called it an All-Star staff when it was merely an accumulation of washed and disinterested individuals with no cohesion.

Last year, again no cohesion. What’s the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different result. And no one knows insanity quite like Miami Hurricanes fans after the better part of two decades.

If you’re given (pretty much) all the money you need to make an attention-grabbing hire on that side of the ball, why would you implement roadblocks? Why self-inflict complications?

It just doesn’t make sense to me no matter how you spin it, and makes me question if quite honestly, he knows what he’s doing.
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I'd also say that I can't think of another high level P4 team to hire 4 coordinators in a couple years WITHOUT them bringing their guy(s) to be on the staff as position coaches. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe Steele, Gattis, Dawson or Guidry got hired along an on-field staff member they wanted to bring along.
 
AUcane said:
I'd also say that I can't think of another high level P4 team to hire 4 coordinators in a couple years WITHOUT them bringing their guy(s) to be on the staff as position coaches. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe Steele, Gattis, Dawson or Guidry got hired along an on-field staff member they wanted to bring along.
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Guidry got Chevis but that’s really it.

The rest, bingo. It’s just not a smart process, no matter if it works or not (it hasn’t worked).

Anyone that refutes it has ulterior agendas they want to push. So be it.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Here are all the P4 schools who won 10 regular season games in 2024:

Army
Memphis
SMU
Clemson
Miami
Arizona State
BYU
Iowa State
Oregon
Penn State
Indiana
Ohio State
Notre Dame

And here is the last time each of those programs won 10 regular season games:

Army - 2018
Memphis - 2019
SMU - 2023
Clemson - 2022
Miami - 2017
Arizona State - 2013
BYU - 2021
Iowa State - Never
Oregon - 2023
Penn State - 2023
Indiana - Never
Ohio State - 2023
Notre Dame - 2021

So what's my point here? Out of all these teams who won 10 games, by LEAST recently, they're ordered as Iowa State, Indiana, Arizona State, then Miami.

Now....let's not be ridiculous and say those programs have the same history and pedigree as Miami. They clearly don't, so the standard here is a bit higher. However, anybody in Ames posting about moving on from Matt Campbell? Lotta banner planes in Bloomington saying FIRE CIGNETTI? They thinking about stuffing Dillingham in the back of an El Camino and driving across the border?

Of course not. Every single one of those dudes could walk into any public establishment in their towns and slap their ***** on a barstool and people would cheer. Here, we talk about firing our coach. Again, not apples to apples in respect to program history. But we gotta have a semblance of perspective here. We're all sick about the way the year ended, no doubt. It's not exactly rainbows and puppy dogs.. We have concerns. But we just had the best year we've had in 7 years. We have won 10 games twice in twenty years, one of those coming this season. I just couldn't fathom making a thread like this.
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LMAO. I can't fathom having one (1) functional brain cell and posting this in the thread I wanted to. Feel free to kick me in the sack.
 
AUcane said:
I'd also say that I can't think of another high level P4 team to hire 4 coordinators in a couple years WITHOUT them bringing their guy(s) to be on the staff as position coaches. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe Steele, Gattis, Dawson or Guidry got hired along an on-field staff member they wanted to bring along.
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Correct. Guidry got to bring in Chevis after Addae went bye bye.
 
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