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JayCane20 said:
Tennessee fans are the most delusional fan base along with the Gators. But they’re salty about his big game defenses like Georgia and Ohio State. Allegedly calls off the dogs and goes into a more conservative shell. Tried to leave McCoy on an island with Jeremiah Smith but I don’t think they expected what they got. That’s a day 1 corner and Smith roasted him.

They were 67th in scoring D the year before him (under Derrick Ansley and Jeremy Pruitt), 97th year 1, then have been 30th, 22nd, and now 8th.

Reminds me a lot of Manny. Very aggressive 4 down front. Lots of press man. Pry at VT runs the same defense and Manny adapted his system to that at Penn State. Same thing Bob Shoop runs as well. All will look alike.

Shoop would be an excellent Safety/nickels coach that is familiar with the scheme.
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It’s not easy playing/coaching defense opposite the Hueppel style of offense. When it’s clicking and going fast the D is sent back out quickly and when its stuck in neutral there are a lot of 3 and outs and the D gets sent back out there quickly

Shoop was here as an analyst in 2021
 
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Big O Cane said:
Majority of Tennessee fans wouldn’t be happy if he left. His secondary “issues” are exaggerated. As Jay mentioned, If he has talent out there he likes to put them on an island. If he doesn’t, he’ll adjust coverages.

One thing he will have, is his defense aligned correctly
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So sounds like if he comes here we will be land locked
 
305407cane said:
So sounds like if he comes here we will be land locked
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Big O Cane said:
Majority of Tennessee fans wouldn’t be happy if he left. His secondary “issues” are exaggerated. As Jay mentioned, If he has talent out there he likes to put them on an island. If he doesn’t, he’ll adjust coverages.

One thing he will have, is his defense aligned correctly
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Has good experience and seems to get good results everywhere he goes. Looks like a 4-2-5 base with the occasional 3-3-5.

Top 25 in most major categories defensively in 2023 except for turnovers. In 2024 his defense was the #8 scoring defense, #7 in yards per game, and #6 in yards per play.

His defense does not seem to cause a ton of turnovers and did not generate a lot of sacks (or TFLs I believe) this year. However, his defense was top 25 for sacks and TFLs last year.
 
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Ryanmilli said:
Has good experience and seems to get good results everywhere he goes. Looks like a 4-2-5 base with the occasional 3-3-5.

Top 25 in most major categories defensively in 2023 except for turnovers. In 2024 his defense was the #8 scoring defense, #7 in yards per game, and #6 in yards per play.

His defense does not seem to cause a ton of turnovers and did not generate a lot of sacks (or TFLs I believe) this year. However, his defense was top 25 for sacks and TFLs last year.
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So if we had this of defense this season, we’d win the MNC.
 
JayCane20 said:
I like Tim Banks and he’s done well at Tennessee. Been going up in rankings year over year since he got there. When he got there they had nothing. Basically all of their LBs transferred out in 2021-2022. Lots of friends that are Tennessee fans have texted me saying they hope we take him.

2 concerns with him. 1) his secondary has been the issue since 2022. Improved a lot this year with transfer corners. He’s supposed to be a secondary coach/specialty. I’ve seen too much of that with Manny and the LBs and then Guidry and the DBs

2) Ties into 1 - under no circumstances can Willie Martinez follow him unless it’s as an analyst. Yes, he has ties to Miami. Horrible recruiter and reviews of his coaching ability are equally as horrendous.

If he wants to/can bring Ekeler and/or Rodney Garner… please do. Another highly regarded staff member that I would think he brings along would be Levorn Harbin “Coach Chop”. Instrumental recruiter and has gotten rave reviews since analysts have been allowed to assist coaching. His background is Valdosta State, Georgia Southern, Tuskegee, Louisiana, and has been an analyst at Auburn and Tennessee. Also was Auburn’s director of recruiting at one point. You definitely would want him to follow and coach on the DL.

I think they would avoid a bidding war and turn the defensive coordinator job over to William Inge (on the 2023 Washington staff and their current LB coach)
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I completely agree about Martinez. He's a **** no and would be a deal breaker for me, for the reasons you gave. I've heard stories about him as a recruiter. He's not what we need right now.

If we're giving the room to former players with iffy recruiting, we might as well give the room to Mike. At least we know he can coach.
 
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