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Damarius Good commits

pacusmc said:
We hate losing the elite kids to other schools and also wonder how kids that turn out elite are completely missed by our staff and other schools.
Seems like this staff has a clear vision of what they want and is trying to evaluate everyone they can regardless of rankings especially players from this state.
That is something we all have been wanting UM to do. It’s one thing to say we strike out with elite recruits due to bags not winning facilities coaching etc...
But it’s another to completely whiff on kids that ball out at lower tier programs and get drafted. Or worse kids that never get offered and go kill it somewhere else. Bandy would be at Oklahoma right now if not for this staff.
Asante is a kid that left to FSU. Maybe we didn’t push hard enough or maybe he didn’t want to come. Some here know more about that situation but at least it seems that the staff doesn’t want too many players bandy’s size.
Imagine if this kid would've committed to Syracuse and locked down receivers? we all would sit here and complain about how the Fuuuuk did our staff miss out on a kid who was 6 feet tall and ran 10.6 and played multiple positions in a wing t offense.
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A kid with that size and speed already, with that type of physicality and aggression is a take. We won't need him to contribute on the field for about 3 years, and there is a lot of development that can take place in that period. With the Cane offer in hand, I'm sure the coaches will allow him to play some safety and corner this season.

By the time he takes the field here he will be big enough to play the striker position and fast enough to play corner. This seems to be the type of db the coaches are after these days, they're looking for versatility.

I have no doubt Rumph can coach him to be a contributor with that size, speed, and aggression. No worries here.

Welcome kiddo!!!
 
Storm said:
I watched the film and saw a physical dog with good size and speed. If you don't, ok. But at this point in time I 100% trust the staff on their evals. Name a bad take (by this staff) so far. Their low ranked guys so far have turned out or at least trending towards being studs. I love this commit.

Since 5*'s aren't jumping on board yet this is how we can break thru. Last year Rousseau, hopefully Miller who Richt said he thought was the best NT in Florida.

Let the staff project the *'s. They haven't missed yet so why all the negativity. The staff's board obvious doesn't line up with the cis board...ill go with the staff.

The db talk this year sounds just like the talk last year regarding lb's. Look how that is shaping up. I trust this staff....no reason not to.
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In 2016
Jeff James, tre Johnson,
Tyreic martin? We will see

2017
No bad takes imo

2018
Bubba baxa? Not high on giving kickers 4-10 their senior season full ride scholarships
 
brock said:
Bubba baxa? Not high on giving kickers 4-10 their senior season full ride scholarships
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So if he was 10 for 10 you would have been ok with it? I won't pretend to know if Baxa is good but I do know we recruited him based on camps, practice evaluations, leg strength, etc.. not going 4 of 10 with amateur long snappers, holders & field conditions.
 
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brock said:
In 2016
Jeff James, tre Johnson,
Tyreic martin? We will see

2017
No bad takes imo

2018
Bubba baxa? Not high on giving kickers 4-10 their senior season full ride scholarships
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Did you watch his kicks? What distances were they from, he were the snaps, the hold, the blocking?

He's one of the top ranked kickers in the country.

Even the #1 guy McPherson barely hit 50%. UF fans aren't crying about him though
 
brock said:
In 2016
Jeff James, tre Johnson,
Tyreic martin? We will see

2017
No bad takes imo

2018
Bubba baxa? Not high on giving kickers 4-10 their senior season full ride scholarships
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Wow...2016 eh? Ok, and a kicker you don't know the circumstances. Your showing you colors.
 
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Honestly good back and forth, especially between Tee and Bay. Two strong opinions not afraid to bring it.

Could do with a little less of the skinny jean wearing, shopping-with-the-girls, cosmo drinker intruding in,

At least Tee and Bay got some clue.

I don’t know what to think gents. Yea, he’s got the real elite athletic ability. NOBODY can question that. Does it translate to playing corner? I have no fūcking idea but I guess Panda and Rumph have an idea. This fall’s under the category of taking a flier on somebody, but what’s different here is that you normally expect this late in the signing cycle, not this early. But there’s usually one or two in a class of 25-28.

I assume he’s going to Paradise. I expect he’ll be raw there, but we’ll be able to see if at least if he can flash as a DB, if he has the hips and can twist in motion. If he has the natural fluidity to make the transition. He ain’t gonna have the technique for sure because that takes time. Let’s just see if he has the raw tools that can be shaped.
 
The way I judge good recruits is simple ... if the gators had gotten him, would it be in gator tears? If yes I’m not for it
 
I'm not super thrilled about the offer but I'll play devil's advocate for a second.


Lots of schools offer kids based on potential and raw athleticism rather than what position they played in high school. Matter of fact, they don't give a **** what position you played in high school, particularly when they're recruiting defensive players. They sign ATHLETES and figure out the rest when the kid gets on campus. THIS IS NOT A FOREIGN CONCEPT. And this is not something I'm assuming, I've had this conversation with college coaches numerous times. (as recent as last week)

Just cause the kid didn't play DB in high school means jack ****.
Fabian Moreau and Quinton Dunbar were offensive skill players in high school. They're both fighting for the starting CB job for the Redskins right now. Moreau was an All Conference CB in college and Dunbar didn't even play defense at UF. Matter of fact, athletically Good is almost identical to Moreau.
There's also countless players in the country who are playing completely different (defensive) positions in college than they played in high school.

It's obvious that we're putting a premium on ATHLETES when it comes to our defensive recruiting. (which, again, is not a foreign concept in college recruiting) We're trying to assemble a unit full of long, fast athletes that we can develop into specific positions.

The coaching in high school is trash, especially down here, so most of the time you're getting a raw prospect anyway. Yes, there are certain nuances to the CB position that are learned through years of playing the position, such as playing the ball in the air and etc...but those things can be taught and repped. You can't teach being 6'0" 183lbs and running a 10.6 100m.
In a couple years Good is going to be a 6'0" 200+ kid who runs a 4.3-4.4 forty. Hopefully we've developed him into a good CB by then.

Good recruiters/coaches have the hindsight to see what a kid can develop into. Golden, for example, didn't have that.

Would you rather have Moreau/Dunbar or Larry Hope/Nate Dortch?
 
Coach Macho said:
I'm not super thrilled about the offer but I'll play devil's advocate for a second.


Lots of schools offer kids based on potential and raw athleticism rather than what position they played in high school. Matter of fact, they don't give a **** what position you played in high school, particularly when they're recruiting defensive players. They sign ATHLETES and figure out the rest when the kid gets on campus. THIS IS NOT A FOREIGN CONCEPT. And this is not something I'm assuming, I've had this conversation with college coaches numerous times. (as recent as last week)

Just cause the kid didn't play DB in high school means jack ****.
Fabian Moreau and Quinton Dunbar were offensive skill players in high school. They're both fighting for the starting CB job for the Redskins right now. Moreau was an All Conference CB in college and Dunbar didn't even play defense at UF. Matter of fact, athletically Good is almost identical to Moreau.
There's also countless players in the country who are playing completely different (defensive) positions in college than they played in high school.

It's obvious that we're putting a premium on ATHLETES when it comes to our defensive recruiting. (which, again, is not a foreign concept in college recruiting) We're trying to assemble a unit full of long, fast athletes that we can develop into specific positions.

The coaching in high school is trash, especially down here, so most of the time you're getting a raw prospect anyway. Yes, there are certain nuances to the CB position that are learned through years of playing the position, such as playing the ball in the air and etc...but those things can be taught and repped. You can't teach being 6'0" 183lbs and running a 10.6 100m.
In a couple years Good is going to be a 6'0" 200+ kid who runs a 4.3-4.4 forty. Hopefully we've developed him into a good CB by then.

Good recruiters/coaches have the hindsight to see what a kid can develop into. Golden, for example, didn't have that.

Would you rather have Moreau/Dunbar or Larry Hope/Nate Dortch?
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These are great points.

& to the kids credit..I absolutely love DB’s that have played RB. They’re so much more physical imho.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I would prefer a highly rated, polished, established CB...
Like a 'no brainer' type of kid...

But I don't see any of them considering us.
 
Coach Macho said:
I'm not super thrilled about the offer but I'll play devil's advocate for a second.


Lots of schools offer kids based on potential and raw athleticism rather than what position they played in high school. Matter of fact, they don't give a **** what position you played in high school, particularly when they're recruiting defensive players. They sign ATHLETES and figure out the rest when the kid gets on campus. THIS IS NOT A FOREIGN CONCEPT. And this is not something I'm assuming, I've had this conversation with college coaches numerous times. (as recent as last week)

Just cause the kid didn't play DB in high school means jack ****.
Fabian Moreau and Quinton Dunbar were offensive skill players in high school. They're both fighting for the starting CB job for the Redskins right now. Moreau was an All Conference CB in college and Dunbar didn't even play defense at UF. Matter of fact, athletically Good is almost identical to Moreau.
There's also countless players in the country who are playing completely different (defensive) positions in college than they played in high school.

It's obvious that we're putting a premium on ATHLETES when it comes to our defensive recruiting. (which, again, is not a foreign concept in college recruiting) We're trying to assemble a unit full of long, fast athletes that we can develop into specific positions.

The coaching in high school is trash, especially down here, so most of the time you're getting a raw prospect anyway. Yes, there are certain nuances to the CB position that are learned through years of playing the position, such as playing the ball in the air and etc...but those things can be taught and repped. You can't teach being 6'0" 183lbs and running a 10.6 100m.
In a couple years Good is going to be a 6'0" 200+ kid who runs a 4.3-4.4 forty. Hopefully we've developed him into a good CB by then.

Good recruiters/coaches have the hindsight to see what a kid can develop into. Golden, for example, didn't have that.

Would you rather have Moreau/Dunbar or Larry Hope/Nate Dortch?
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Elite athletes who play for ****** HS teams are more likely to play offense.
 
Played DB his sophomore season
Coach Macho said:
I'm not super thrilled about the offer but I'll play devil's advocate for a second.


Lots of schools offer kids based on potential and raw athleticism rather than what position they played in high school. Matter of fact, they don't give a **** what position you played in high school, particularly when they're recruiting defensive players. They sign ATHLETES and figure out the rest when the kid gets on campus. THIS IS NOT A FOREIGN CONCEPT. And this is not something I'm assuming, I've had this conversation with college coaches numerous times. (as recent as last week)

Just cause the kid didn't play DB in high school means jack ****.
Fabian Moreau and Quinton Dunbar were offensive skill players in high school. They're both fighting for the starting CB job for the Redskins right now. Moreau was an All Conference CB in college and Dunbar didn't even play defense at UF. Matter of fact, athletically Good is almost identical to Moreau.
There's also countless players in the country who are playing completely different (defensive) positions in college than they played in high school.

It's obvious that we're putting a premium on ATHLETES when it comes to our defensive recruiting. (which, again, is not a foreign concept in college recruiting) We're trying to assemble a unit full of long, fast athletes that we can develop into specific positions.

The coaching in high school is trash, especially down here, so most of the time you're getting a raw prospect anyway. Yes, there are certain nuances to the CB position that are learned through years of playing the position, such as playing the ball in the air and etc...but those things can be taught and repped. You can't teach being 6'0" 183lbs and running a 10.6 100m.
In a couple years Good is going to be a 6'0" 200+ kid who runs a 4.3-4.4 forty. Hopefully we've developed him into a good CB by then.

Good recruiters/coaches have the hindsight to see what a kid can develop into. Golden, for example, didn't have that.

Would you rather have Moreau/Dunbar or Larry Hope/Nate Dortch?
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I actually like this kid and think, with his size and speed, he has POTENTIAL to develop into a good player.

But there's no reason to take his commitment right now. None. There's a reason he has very few offers, and that reason is he projects as a defensive player at the next level, but has no defensive body of work. Playing DB is very instinctual. Does the kid have a single instinct? Can he actually play DB? Nobody knows, but IMO it's perfectly fine to offer, bring to camps, bring to Paradise, and see how he does this fall (he said he's going to be playing more defense) before you accept his commitment. This is not a make or break type kid, and even if you do wait and he winds up going elsewhere down the road, it's not the end of the world.

This just screams to me that, as usual, the staff is not very confident on much of the higher ranked DBs. If you think you have a shred of flipping Dent, getting Steele, Elam, Stevenson (although they may view him as a Safety), Davis, Porter, Dixon, etc. etc., you don't take a kid purely on potential at this point.

Again, I think the kid clearly has the athleticism to play at this level, I just would like to see a prospect at least demonstrate a tiny bit of production at his position before you take him in May. Nobody else on Miami's level is clamoring for a commitment from this kid right now. To me, this speaks volumes to how poorly the DB recruiting is going. If you think you've got a big hook set into even a few of the kids I mentioned above, this kid doesn't get taken right now. JMO.
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That's a valid point and you may be right and this could be the case. What I think is that they view Good as a potential superstar and have such a high opinion of him that the staff believes accepting his commitment now will go a long way toward cementing the kids loyalty if and when Good does blow up and all the elite programs are after him. Just my 2 cents.
 

@caneinorlando Are you trying to prove my point for me? Just because he's shredded doesn't mean the things I said aren't accurate. It's very clear on film and in that picture.
 
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