DAILY DEBATE: What needs do we still need to address in the Portal?

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You kinda missed the point lol. We've out recruited almost every ACC team the last 20 years, yet we've only played in the ACC Championship game once. If we're relying on a big portal addition after the spring, we got serious problems with our staff
If Mario wants to win now, he’s bringing in reinforcements in the spring, we need senior leadership as well. He already completely flipped the secondary room which was necessary

Didn’t Ohio State only start 1 underclassmen on Defense in the National Title game?

A bunch of underclassmen are not going to lead us to a national title

Again, I blame the 2023 class for this
 
I've said a starting WR, LB, Safety (starter or depth) and probably an RB 4/5 in case of injuries. If we start adding De's , Dts, and multiple Wrs, we clearly have failed to develop our talent. If Scott, Picket, Lightfoot, Carr, Trader, Blount, etc aren't taking the next step to contribute, then I've got serious concerns about our staff
It's year 4, relying on a roster full of guys with next to 0 experience is certainly one way to do it.
 
It's year 4, relying on a roster full of guys with next to 0 experience is certainly one way to do it.
Again, continuing to rely so heavily on the portal after year 4 is an embarrassment. If you think we're going to have some massive portal hall, you're sadly mistaken. Quality over Quantity is a proven recipe for success. If we want to not develop our expensive high school classes and just portal an entire new starting roster every year, then we'll NEVER EVER get to what were we want to be. NEVER
 
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Again, continuing to rely so heavily on the portal after year 4 is an embarrassment. If you think we're going to have some massive portal hall, you're sadly mistaken. Quality over Quantity is a proven recipe for success. If we want to not develop our expensive high school classes and just portal an entire new starting roster every year, then we'll NEVER EVER get to what were we want to be. NEVER
Again I wish good luck to you.
 
If Mario wants to win now, he’s bringing in reinforcements in the spring, we need senior leadership as well. He already completely flipped the secondary room which was necessary

Didn’t Ohio State only start 1 underclassmen on Defense in the National Title game?

A bunch of underclassmen are not going to lead us to a national title

Again, I blame the 2023 class for this
How about you look at how many players on OSU's starting defense were portal additions. I'll help you out, it's one.
 
Thank god we don't have you running our program. God if you think we are bad now, I can't imagine if we went forward with your logic
We certainly wouldn't be the laughing stock of the ACC. I'm sure what we really need is more of the same. Spot on analysis on your behalf.
 
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How about you look at how many players on OSU's starting defense were portal additions. I'll help you out, it's one.
I’m hopeful next year we can ease off being dependent on portal pieces.

I’m a big proponent on high school recruiting, the problem it’s been way too many whiffs for Miami classes, not enough elite talent

Francis Mauigoa is and was an elite talent. That’s the standard and bar
 
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I’m hopeful next year we can ease off being dependent on portal pieces.

I’m a big proponent on high school recruiting, the problem it’s been way too many whiffs for Miami classes, not enough elite talent
Not enough Elite Talent? Bain, Lowe, Scott, Blount and Lightfoot are all top 40 recruits lol. Those guys have significantly higher upside than any dlineman that would be available post spring lol. Carr, Trader, Robinson and Joseph are all top 100 recruits. If those guys can't make take the next step, it's clearly a staff issue, not a talent issue
 
Not enough Elite Talent? Bain, Lowe, Scott, Blount and Lightfoot are all top 40 recruits lol. Those guys have significantly higher upside than any dlineman that would be available post spring lol. Carr, Trader, Robinson and Joseph are all top 100 recruits. If those guys can't make take the next step, it's clearly a staff issue, not a talent issue
A lot of it is dependent on Carson Beck to do some tampering, he will play a big role in the recruitment of the spring portal.
 
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A lot of it is dependent on Carson Beck to do some tampering, he will play a big role in the recruitment of the spring portal.
I'm not saying we should get guys in the spring portal, but we don't need a big overhaul. I said a safety, LB and a WR1 are really the only true priorities. I just don't see the need to keep spending money on portal depth pieces at positions like DE and WR. We spent a lot of money on those high profile recruits at that position, so if we bring in cheap one year depth rentals, then those guys are gone. Then come December, we're relying on a big portal hual again. We'll never get out of that cycle if we don't develop and play what we have. These kids need real reps. Competitive teams prove time and time again that Quality over Quantity in the portal is the key to success. People also need to remember that no starting impact DE is going to come in when we have Bain and Mesidor starting already. No impactful RB is going to come when we have Lyle and Fletcher are leading the way. Also, I just don't see a second WR coming when we already have another portal WR1, Daniels, Trader and Carr.
 
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Good thing we got 7 months to get them there. If you cant get Blount, Mcconothy, Bryant, Picket and lighfoot ready to make an impact behind Mesidor and Bain, then you have no business being on this staff.
Physical development isn’t his job, but I do want to see how he develops those guys. We still should be looking to bring in another edge rusher instead of hoping an inexperienced guy becomes an impact player this year
 
Physical development isn’t his job, but I do want to see how he develops those guys. We still should be looking to bring in another edge rusher instead of hoping an inexperienced guy becomes an impact player this year
I just think that's waste of money. For starters, the odds of us brining in a starting caliber DE when we have Bain and Messidor are low. We paid a lot of money for guys like Lighfoot, Picket, Mcconothy and Blount. If we bring in those low end depth portal ends, some of those high profile recruits will leave and then we need another big portal hall come winter. The cycle will never end
 
Starting LB
Starting S
Back up Depth RB
Starting DT
2 Starting WRs
Back up DE
Back up OT
Back up QB
Special Teams Coach

Mostly senior laden players as well since this team is young
The portal is not where you go for backups. We have three years of evidence thus far and I don't want a fourth, even if we do find another name like Lucious.
 
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