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DAILY DEBATE: What is your biggest concern on defense?

Outside contain + tackling in space. The issue is the big plays (20+ yarders and 15 yard penalties) we are allowing. That's imo literally the entire story of our Defense getting killed thus far. Now obviously you can't fully eliminate all that. And you're going to give up long drives where they are hitting short and medium stuff. But our strength is our Dline. And to me, the more plays a team has to run because they aren't hitting 15+ yarders or aren't getting gifted them from our penalties, the more likely one of our DLineman is going to make a big play and put them behind the sticks and kill their drive. I'm confident in our Offense, so what we just don't want to do is gift opponents easy scores they didn't have to work for. We have literally given up like 10 scoring drives out of like 23 total where like 60%+ of their yards on that drive came on 1 play. So half the time teams score on us, it involved a Big play. And there were like 3 or 4 drives where our 15 yard penalties alone accounted for like 25% of their yardage. So we need to heavily focus on reducing those. If we can cut it even in half, it'll make this defense feel like they are so much better. Cause we really haven't been bad on like 85%-95% of the plays we defend....

UF: Allowed a 71 yard TD run on the first play of a drive at the end of the 2nd quarter. This was one of two scoring drive our Defense really allowed all game. They also scored on a drive they only gained 10 yards but were in FG range from an INT, so this I'm not counting negatively against the D. They had a drive in the 3rd quarter that ended in an INT, but the drive went 51 yards and involved a 15 yard penalty (30%). Rest of the plays were just short/medium stuff. And the second scoring drive was when we were up 38-10 and we're putting a lot of subs in. Still was a good drive by them that they didn't get any major big yardage plays nor did we commit fouls... So that was probably the one total drive this game that our Defense was Bad.

FAMU: Allowed a 29 and 34 yard pass on the same drive in 1st quarter. It was 9 plays and went 70 yards, 63 of which were in those 2 plays (90%). Drive ended in a FG. FAMU had one other good drive on us that ended in a FG in the 2nd quarter, but that didn't have any really big plays.

BALL ST: Longest Drive was only 28 yards, so nothing to see there.

USF: On their First FG drive which was 35 yards, 15 of them (43%) were from a penalty. Their 2nd scoring drive came off a pick in short yardage, so it's kinda whatever for our D. Their 3rd scoring drive was 40 yards and ended in a FG, 28 of those yards came on one play (70%). Their 4th scoring drive they didn't have any big plays, but we did commit another 15 yard penalty. But this is exactly the type of drive that we should be more than happy to cause. They took 19 plays to go 66 yards, and 23% of that was from our penalty. You force teams to do that and our DLine will eventually make a big play and kill their drive, like what happened. Their next drive they missed a FG, but the drive went 62 yards and they had a 64 yard play (103%) lol. So again we allow one big play and stop them the other 6 plays before they miss a FG. They had one other solid drive near the end of the 3rd quarter that went 61 yards before they threw a pick that involved a 26 yard completion (43%) and another 15 yard penalty (25%) which was on a 4th down. These couple Big plays and Big penalties led to a lot of points. Ultimately we're talking like 5 plays here.

VTECH: Their first scoring drive came off a turnover. But it only went 30 yards and involved a 25 yard TD pass (83%) on 3rd down. Their second TD drive was early in the second quarter. The drive was 64 yards, and involved a 55 yard TD pass (86%). Their 3rd TD drive was probably their best full on drive because it was just 5 plays and 4 of them were 16-20 yards. They had a 2min drive before half they picked up 34 yards and got a FG. 20 yards came on 1 pass (58%). Their Next TD drive went 45 yards, and we committed a 15 yard penalty (33%) on a 2nd and 17 that was incomplete. They proceeded to get three 15+ yard plays to get a TD. We kept that drive alive for them.

CAL: Their first TD drive went 89 yards and involved a 57 yard TD (64%). That drive was starting good for them as they hit two 15 yarders before then as well. Their second TD drive went 56 yards and involved a 51 yard pass (91%). Their 3rd TD drive went 75 yards and involved a 66 yard TD pass (88%) on 4th and 1. That is just unacceptable. Their 4th TD drive went 80 yards and involved a 56 yard pass (70%) followed by a 20 yard pass to set up a Rushing TD. Their final scoring drive was a FG near the end of the 3rd quarter that went 55 yards and had a 20 yard and a 22 yard scramble by medonza on a whiffed sack. Cal had one play >4 yards in their final like 17 plays on offense.
 
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Depth…

plenty of games remaining, and we need to stay healthy and get more of the younger players in the rotations.
 
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brock said:


Daryl porter had been my concern the previous 2 games but he stepped up big time.

Jaden Harris again because it needs to be further reinforced, needs snaps taken away
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2 solid corners and you can scheme around whoever is lining up on the other side. Hopefully Damari is back in time to get game ready by the ACCCG and playoffs. Safety play is hurting us along with LBs not playing their assignments.
 
The absolute biggest issue on defense, by a mile is that our back seven take horrible angles. We allow way too many 10 yard plays to become 39 yard plays. Meesh Powell is the biggest offender but nobody is innocent.

Look, every once in a while, an offense is going to make that perfect call against whatever defense you called. It happens from time to time. The thing is, you can’t allow those types of plays to go for huge gains. Against USF, Virginia Tech and Cal, we allowed good plays to become great plays because our guys would take poor angles and run themselves either into blocks or out of the play itself.

If you look at the numbers from the Cal game, you’d think Miami won in a blowout. Their run game was completely ineffective and their quarterback completed 12/24 passes. It just so happened that we gave up 4 passes of over 50 yards and they weren’t bombs going over the top. It was a ton of underneath catches that we weren’t in position to make the tackle on.

We probably aren’t the best man to man coverage team out there but that’s not really what’s killing us. It’s that the few positive plays we do allow tend to go for huge gains. Maybe we need to play a little more zone. Maybe a little more bend but don’t break and force these teams to go on long drives. We need to do something to stop giving up the huge chunk plays.
 
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Safety.

They're meant to erase the big play - at the moment they're both directly causing it.
 
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Miami is in what looks like cover 2. Yes the receiver starts on the side of meesh Powell but that’s also in Jaden Harris zone. What does he do, comes down to help someone who is already covered well and leaves his zone vacant over the top.
 
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UM’s defensive backfield — and the propensity for allowing big plays — remain the Achilles heel of this team. And there were four primary culprits against Cal, per Pro Football Focus.
On a night when the Canes gave up four plays of at least 50 yards, UM’s starting safeties and its two transfer corners all struggled.
Former Marshall cornerback Dyoni Hill permitted two of three targets against him to be caught for 54 yards and a touchdown.
The only pass thrown against former Vanderbilt cornerback Jadais Richard was caught for 56 yards.
Three of five passes thrown against safety Mishael Powell were caught for 77 yards.
And two of three passes thrown against safety Jaden Harris were caught for 81 yards and a touchdown.
On the positive side, all four passes thrown against cornerback Daryl Porter Jr. were incomplete. And freshman cornerback OJ Frederique wasn’t targeted.
 
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BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Aside from OJ and maybe DPJr, the entire secondary has stunk. More specifically, Jaden Harris biting on fakes and overpursuing. Meesh Powell looked slow. Misdirections and motions are letting the offenses use our aggressive attacking style against us.

Here's another thing that seems to be flying under the radar a bit. Our DEs aren't seting an edge against the run. Bain helped in that department, but it's not enough. If you want to see an example, watch the last short TD run by Cal in the 3rd Q. Baron gets sealed off by the TE, allowing the tackle to come around and kick out Meesh. The tackle did not double team Baron, then release. Baron got straight up beat by the tight end. If Baron strings out the block and stretches the TE wide or upfield, there's no lane for the RB to hit unless he cuts back. But Baron did not do that and the play resulted in a TD. After a fast start, Baron has been average at best. Here's a clip of the play I mentioned:

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your concern was Baron ont here and not the dts getting completely swallowed.?.

I agree if he does reset the line a bit but if he did the cut back still was there and the dude walks in still or gets tackled at the one by Harris possibly.

That play was schemed up beautifully by them...

To much times in the run game we have two lbs in the interior getting blcoked or running into wrong gaps.
 
I’m not sure what to expect when Safeties and LBs can’t tackle or get themselves in front of a ball carrier long enough to maybe cause him to slow down.
 
i thought yall said we might be better at safety without JW and Kam Kinchens.

They goofed in the transfer portal again....

they brought in Savion Riley he apparently got beat out and they didnt replace him...they only brought in Dyoni Hill at CB....didnt bring in anymore with an abundance of cbs out there.

The secondary is a huge issue moving forward considering i dont even think we faced a really good wr group yet...in two weeks we will definately see as Brohm made light work of guidry last year it may be worse this year.
 
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