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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

Cane6 said:
You are commingling points

FSU and Clemson are pushing for a reasonable exit fee that includes future TV rights, and that battle is swinging to the side of member schools.

The minute it gets set, it would apply to every other school.

Now where the deal cutting occurs is with the new TV partner comes in to amortize the early exit fee.
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In fact, the ACC would want it to apply to any other school because the minute those two schools leave the value of the conference, including the media rights go down and a school filing suit. They are shortly thereafter, especially if ESPN has come in and renegotiated a deal for less money could be that they owe less because the media writes overall have gone down.

Yes, the school needs to an action but acc could wind up getting less for subsequent schools depending on timing and situation
 
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Ispyin said:
Not a ******* chance
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This is what makes this thread amazing...

Ispy saying not a ******* chance to Cane6 who just celebrated FL Cane for being insightful... .yet everyone expects the board to just sit and sip tea and trust the UM administration to get this right.... after 20 + years of getting next to nothing right...

Sounds fair...

There is a difference between sky is falling, jest and distrust of the process and not buying everything someone sells....

I appreciate all the connected people providing their available tidbits of information, but there is not exactly alignment amongst this board....

Carry on...
 
Angry Ibis said:
This is what makes this thread amazing...

Ispy saying not a ******* chance to Cane6 who just celebrated FL Cane for being insightful... .yet everyone expects the board to just sit and sip tea and trust the UM administration to get this right.... after 20 + years of getting next to nothing right...

Sounds fair...

There is a difference between sky is falling, jest and distrust of the process and not buying everything someone sells....

I appreciate all the connected people providing their available tidbits of information, but there is not exactly alignment amongst this board....

Carry on...
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I was talking specifically about Virginia being next to file not anything else in their back and forth. Not sure how you missed what I responded to
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
Because it's better than the alternative. And I stand by my belief that Rads top preference is staying in the ACC. I expect the acc and espn will come up with some additional performance based incentives and then publish some funny math to show how the top 3 acc teams will make "comparable" amounts of money as the P2 schools, especially when you factor in things like travel distance and not needing to add additional non revenue sports.
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It's not really rocket science in my mind. Look at ACC offer, compare it to the exit fee, and make a decision. I refuse to believe UM doesn't at least have a rough idea of the revenue they would be getting from another conference to jump ship.
 
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Ispyin said:
I was talking specifically about Virginia being next to file not anything else in their back and forth. Not sure how you missed what I responded to
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I got it... It was my reading of 3 threads roughly back to back... and commenting why some here may not be sold that we are getting out of the ACC for greener pastures...

I tend to think we are B1G by 2026/27. I would also not be 1% surprised if the admin totally ****ed this up....
 
Angry Ibis said:
I got it... It was my reading of 3 threads roughly back to back... and commenting why some here may not be sold that we are getting out of the ACC for greener pastures...

I tend to think we are B1G by 2026/27. I would also not be 1% surprised if the admin totally ****ed this up....
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Agree ... .HOPE we are in the Big 10 but .... given UM administration is in charge. Good luck.
 
wichitacane said:
It's not really rocket science in my mind. Look at ACC offer, compare it to the exit fee, and make a decision. I refuse to believe UM doesn't at least have a rough idea of the revenue they would be getting from another conference to jump ship.
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Well THAT is the issue isn't it? A lot of speculation that ... at this point ... UM doesn't have a confirmed P2 landing spot. Most likely changes in the future, as when the B10 does their next media contract. Again ... that is speculation.
 
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Latest update on Warchant by RegalNole ... the ONE guy who is regarded by the "Nole Community" to have some legit media contacts and the one who has basically said "they are out" and will announce prior to this season. He just commented "he fully expects ESPN to enact the composition clause prior to 8/15/24 and basically void the entire current ACC media deal". If the media deal IS negated, there goes the GOR and there goes the ACC .... every man for themselves.
 
Angry Ibis said:
I got it... It was my reading of 3 threads roughly back to back... and commenting why some here may not be sold that we are getting out of the ACC for greener pastures...

I tend to think we are B1G by 2026/27. I would also not be 1% surprised if the admin totally ****ed this up....
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2026/2027 is a reasonable timeline. 2025 is possible, but the big caveat here is that the entire conference would need to implode. I think we initially go in with a decently reduced revenue share (~30% - 50%), with a scale up clause for performance.

Ultimately, the only thing that matters here is getting into the BIG. If we have to take a heavily reduced share, so be it.
 
FL Cane said:
2026/2027 is a reasonable timeline. 2025 is possible, but the big caveat here is that the entire conference would need to implode. I think we initially go in with a decently reduced revenue share (~30% - 50%), with a scale up clause for performance.

Ultimately, the only thing that matters here is getting into the BIG. If we have to take a heavily reduced share, so be it.
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Disagree. We shouldn't accept a reduced share. If they try to pull that on us, then join the SEC.
 
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FL Cane said:
2026/2027 is a reasonable timeline. 2025 is possible, but the big caveat here is that the entire conference would need to implode. I think we initially go in with a decently reduced revenue share (~30% - 50%), with a scale up clause for performance.

Ultimately, the only thing that matters here is getting into the BIG. If we have to take a heavily reduced share, so be it.
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No argument from me here. B1G is the answer. If it is prorated, ramp up similar to Oregon and Washington, I will not quibble about it...
 
Rickd said:
Latest update on Warchant by RegalNole ... the ONE guy who is regarded by the "Nole Community" to have some legit media contacts and the one who has basically said "they are out" and will announce prior to this season. He just commented "he fully expects ESPN to enact the composition clause prior to 8/15/24 and basically void the entire current ACC media deal". If the media deal IS negated, there goes the GOR and there goes the ACC .... every man for themselves.
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What’s the chicken and egg of his claim? Can’t see how you invoke a composition clause unless the composition has already changed (ie FSU and Clemson already finding a way out).
 
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Cane6 said:
Why do you feel so strongly that UVA won’t file?
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Because any "interest" in UVa by the P2 is overheated at best. They bring almost nothing to the table in any competitive way. The Big 10 alums are not big anywhere in VA except for the DC area. It's not a compelling road trip. The TV ratings are atrocious. The general interest in UVa in Virginia is atrocious.

The ONLY reason to take UVa is because the SEC desperately wants to reunite all 13 stars on the Confederate battle flag (that's a fact, no matter how many 22 year olds try to act like that stuff is all in the past). The Big 10 has already learned its lesson about adding "flagship schools with ****** TV ratings" when they added Maryland and Rutgers. Yes, UVa would be an excellent academic fit for the Big 10, while offering NOTHING on the athletics side.

And the SEC just has "a type". So they MIGHT take UVa.

If anyone in the P2 invites UVa, I guaran-*******-tee it will be for a half-share. A full-share would be economic insanity.
 
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