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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

ssvir said:
You aren't considering the benefit of future AAU status for FSU in the B10 .... literally hundreds of millions in research money.
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While I see becoming AAU as giving them another potential option, I still think IF they have the choice it will be SEC.
 
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coffeecane said:
I think they prefer to play in the south. The SEC is still considered the gold standard down here. Obviously I don't know anything and it's my opinion.
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I think its the opposite. They don't want to be competing in the south and want the conference money, Olympic sports, academic prestige, and AAU grant money. Will always be the little brother to the "flagship school" if they go to the SEC.
 
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Yeah for sure there are many factors that none of us really know. Can't wait to see how it all falls out. As long as we get out without getting raped I'll be happy.
 
Rickd said:
WRONG. The only money that goes to the schools is the ACC exit fee which is in the bylaws and is $120M per school. Any GOR buyback that is negotiated WITH ESPN ... goes to ESPN ONLY and has nothing to do with the schools.
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You have it exactly backwards. FSUs media rights belong to the ACC. It's why it is called the acc grant of rights, not the espn grant of rights. It's why fsu is suing the acc, not espn. That was the whole point of the GOR after Maryland left. If an ACC team leaves for another conference, the acc still gets media revenue from all home games through 2036. In 2027, Espn has the option to extend the tv deal through 2036. If espn doesn't pick up the option, the acc still owns the home game media rights of all acc teams through 2036.

ACC signed the tv deal with espn on behalf of all the teams, which granted the acc the right to negotiate the media deal (hence the term "grant of rights) . Acc says it values FSUs media rights through 2036 at 572 million, which belongs to the conference. The teams that want to leave will have to negotiate that price with the acc. Separate from that is the exit penalty, which is estimated at $130 million (3 times operating fees, that is phrase written in the GOR, not a set amount of 120 or 130 million). That's what the acc pays to espn for an acc team exiting the conference. All the rest, the 572 million, goes to the ACC.
 
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So it looks like we may play in a conference that looks much like the old Big East? Mario better build a monster and go undefeated every year…….
 
TpaBayFlyFisher said:
So it looks like we may play in a conference that looks much like the old Big East? Mario better build a monster and go undefeated every year…….
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Won't matter at all when the SEC and B1G govern their own playoff. No one outside their bubble will be included

End goal will be the conferences rid themselves of programs like Vanderbilt, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue, Rutgers, Illinois, etc. in favor of Miami, UNC, Clemson, etc whoever is left over... but when that takes place.. who knows. It'll make it's way to an NFL 2 conference format before all is said and done.
 
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Handsome Squidbum said:
You have it exactly backwards. FSUs media rights belong to the ACC. It's why it is called the acc grant of rights, not the espn grant of rights. It's why fsu is suing the acc, not espn. That was the whole point of the GOR after Maryland left. If an ACC team leaves for another conference, the acc still gets media revenue from all home games through 2036. In 2027, Espn has the option to extend the tv deal through 2036. If espn doesn't pick up the option, the acc still owns the home game media rights of all acc teams through 2036.

ACC signed the tv deal with espn on behalf of all the teams, which granted the acc the right to negotiate the media deal (hence the term "grant of rights) . Acc says it values FSUs media rights through 2036 at 572 million, which belongs to the conference. The teams that want to leave will have to negotiate that price with the acc. Separate from that is the exit penalty, which is estimated at $130 million (3 times operating fees, that is phrase written in the GOR, not a set amount of 120 or 130 million). That's what the acc pays to espn for an acc team exiting the conference. All the rest, the 572 million, goes to the ACC.you are incorrect!
Handsome Squidbum said:
You have it exactly backwards. FSUs media rights belong to the ACC. It's why it is called the acc grant of rights, not the espn grant of rights. It's why fsu is suing the acc, not espn. That was the whole point of the GOR after Maryland left. If an ACC team leaves for another conference, the acc still gets media revenue from all home games through 2036. In 2027, Espn has the option to extend the tv deal through 2036. If espn doesn't pick up the option, the acc still owns the home game media rights of all acc teams through 2036.

ACC signed the tv deal with espn on behalf of all the teams, which granted the acc the right to negotiate the media deal (hence the term "grant of rights) . Acc says it values FSUs media rights through 2036 at 572 million, which belongs to the conference. The teams that want to leave will have to negotiate that price with the acc. Separate from that is the exit penalty, which is estimated at $130 million (3 times operating fees, that is phrase written in the GOR, not a set amount of 120 or 130 million). That's what the acc pays to espn for an acc team exiting the conference. All the rest, the 572 million, goes to the ACC.
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you are incorrect across the board. ESPN was granted the rights by the ACC and owns them. The question is for how long - goal is to have it confirmed that the GOR is concurrent with the existing ESPN contract through 2027.
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CreativeCane said:
But does this dude actually have any kind of track record of being right? It seems he posts a lot of LONG posts with a lot of "information" but nothing has really happened. It's all just speculation. At one point we were a lock for B1G. Now we're an afterthought. If we were a lock before UO/UW, I could understand timeline changing, but why would we suddenly be 3rd, 4th, 5th on the list? Makes zero sense to me. UO/UW offering aren't exactly offering them the same thing Miami would, so it's not like they replaced us. Why would FSU suddenly jump us? Just because they are the ones making the public noise? USC/UCLA was done in the dark. Texas/OU was done fairly quietly. I think very few people know what's actually going on.
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You have a lot of homework to do. Lucky for you, you have a thread full of 700 pages that answers those questions.
 
JayCane20 said:
Won't matter at all when the SEC and B1G govern their own playoff. No one outside their bubble will be included

End goal will be the conferences rid themselves of programs like Vanderbilt, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue, Rutgers, Illinois, etc. in favor of Miami, UNC, Clemson, etc whoever is left over... but when that takes place.. who knows. It'll make it's way to an NFL 2 conference format before all is said and done.
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I agree about NFL analogy; however, not sure it’ll be easy to remove those programs. I would remove those ****** programs but not sure how realistic it is.
 
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Tony4Canes said:
Even NFL has bad teams
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If there's 32 or 36 teams in the P2 in college and they all have to play each other or play 10 of their 12 games against those schools... a lot of them will be "bad"

Everyone can't go 8-4 or better. You would be seeing a typical quality program losing 7-8-9-10 games. That could very easily end up being Miami in this scenario if we make it to be included in this Power 2 conferences.

Or they could choose to just leave Northwestern, Indiana, etc. and let everyone gang up on them and cushion their win totals to keep everyone else somewhat happy.
 
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CreativeCane said:
Oh I've been keeping up all along. I just don't feel like this Genetics guy should be getting as much credit as some people seem to give him.
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WADR but if you have been following then you would know he’s credible. I know some of his info is accurate from other people. He’s definitely plugged in with the Big 10 and media people. Shoot, just look at the people who are following him. But we can agree to disagree.
 
Hurracanes said:
I agree about NFL analogy; however, not sure it’ll be easy to remove those programs. I would remove those ****** programs but not sure how realistic it is.
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How realistic was it to think USC and UCLA would leave the PAC12 to go to the B1G 3 years ago?

TV execs were able to pull that off and i dont think trimming the fat is not off the table for the next TV contract. It is unlikely, but definitely something for the ADs and Presidents at Indiana, Purdue, and their ilk to have backup plans for in the next 7 years or so.
 
Hurracanes said:
I agree about NFL analogy; however, not sure it’ll be easy to remove those programs. I would remove those ****** programs but not sure how realistic it is.
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Some of the teams mentioned are founding members of the big ten and it would take insane circumstances for them to be voted out. They have special rights as founders if I’m not mistaken
 
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Handsome Squidbum said:
They are going to regret missing their chance to be a part of the soon to be merged ACC/Big12 conference.

Trying Not To Laugh GIF
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He look like Mexican Will Smith
 
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