MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

[TheOriginalCane]

These are some of the best academic institutions in America. I'm sure one of them remembered to get a lawyer.

Why is this the "answer" to everything?

"Good golly, I hope that poverty-stricken teenager and his not-highly-educated parents GOT A LAWYER before they signed that NIL deal that purported to pay them millions".

It's one thing to "get a lawyer". It's quite another thing to be LIED TO regarding ESPN's future plans and intentions.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Appreciate you posting all the screenshots from the complaint. There's lots of discussion about how this was fundamentally a bad deal, that the ACC wasn't exactly forthright in its negotiations, etc. But is the crux of the argument that the GOR is invalid because it lacked new consideration? Or are they advancing other claims about its invalidity? (Looking for the brief bullet point summary)

There's a few things here.

First, the EXTENSION to the GOR (the one that took it from 2027 to 2036) is, at its core, unenforceable. For multiple reasons.
---No new consideration
---Not even matched up, in term, to the TV agreement (2027 vs. 2036)
---Unconscionable
---Does not even really apply to school that exits the conference (Holy Grail argument)
---Constitutes an additional "exit penalty" beyond the one ALREADY AGREED TO in the ACC Constitution

Second, there are plenty of other claims designed to either "make this a Florida contractual case" or to address issues raised in the ACC's separate filing.

 

[JD08]

Boss: Hey TOC, are you busy? We really needs someone to review the Henderson case.
TOC: No can do. I'm going over this contract to see if we have a good enough case.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Boss: Hey TOC, are you busy? We really needs someone to review the Henderson case.
TOC: No can do. I'm going over this contract to see if we have a good enough case.

Shhhhh....

Took me an hour.

 

[JD08]

Shhhhh....

Took me an hour.

But you billed 3 and a 1/2, right?

 

[Ispyin]

FSU just pulled a Georgia on the ACC

 

[mcnaire2004]

Why is this the "answer" to everything?

"Good golly, I hope that poverty-stricken teenager and his not-highly-educated parents GOT A LAWYER before they signed that NIL deal that purported to pay them millions".

It's one thing to "get a lawyer". It's quite another thing to be LIED TO regarding ESPN's future plans and intentions.

Honestly I just missed you.

Lied to. So ESPN broke the deal and you can prove it? We're free!!!!

 

[Antcane]

But you billed 3 and a 1/2, right?

You pay me for what I know not how fast I get it done.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

But you billed 3 and a 1/2, right?

Reminds me of the old joke...

Lawyer dies, gets to the pearly gates, and sees St. Peter. Lawyer tells St. Peter "But I'm much too young to have died, I'm only 37..." St. Peter looks at his notes and says "Yes, but according to your billing records, you're 76..."

 

[cway313]

There's a few things here.

First, the EXTENSION to the GOR (the one that took it from 2027 to 2036) is, at its core, unenforceable. For multiple reasons.
---No new consideration
---Not even matched up, in term, to the TV agreement (2027 vs. 2036)
---Unconscionable
---Does not even really apply to school that exits the conference (Holy Grail argument)
---Constitutes an additional "exit penalty" beyond the one ALREADY AGREED TO in the ACC Constitution

Second, there are plenty of other claims designed to either "make this a Florida contractual case" or to address issues raised in the ACC's separate filing.

They ****** or nah?

 

[TheOriginalCane]

You pay me for what I know not how fast I get it done.

That reminds me of another joke.

Client 1 goes to an attorney for a will, the attorney researches and drafts the will and charges Client 1 for 6 hours of time.

Client 2 goes to the same attorney for a will, identical facts, the attorney updates the first will and spends 1 hour.

How much should the attorney bill Client 2?

Six hours of time.

 

[JD08]

That reminds me of another joke.

Client 1 goes to an attorney for a will, the attorney researches and drafts the will and charges Client 1 for 6 hours of time.

Client 2 goes to the same attorney for a will, identical facts, the attorney updates the first will and spends 1 hour.

How much should the attorney bill Client 2?

Six hours of time.

That's pretty much how software development and implementation works.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Honestly I just missed you.

Lied to. So ESPN broke the deal and you can prove it? We're free!!!!

Who is "we", genius?

"We" didn't file a lawsuit.

 

[CreativeCane]

That reminds me of another joke.

Client 1 goes to an attorney for a will, the attorney researches and drafts the will and charges Client 1 for 6 hours of time.

Client 2 goes to the same attorney for a will, identical facts, the attorney updates the first will and spends 1 hour.

How much should the attorney bill Client 2?

Six hours of time.

It's this way with my business, too. People want free/cheap creative work and say because I've already done it or because I work quickly, they shouldn't have to pay as much. Why do I get punished for being efficient and delivering things to you quicker? Hence why I don't charge hourly, but value-based pricing.

 

[CaneintheWilderness]

There's a few things here.

First, the EXTENSION to the GOR (the one that took it from 2027 to 2036) is, at its core, unenforceable. For multiple reasons.
---No new consideration
---Not even matched up, in term, to the TV agreement (2027 vs. 2036)
---Unconscionable
---Does not even really apply to school that exits the conference (Holy Grail argument)
---Constitutes an additional "exit penalty" beyond the one ALREADY AGREED TO in the ACC Constitution

Second, there are plenty of other claims designed to either "make this a Florida contractual case" or to address issues raised in the ACC's separate filing.

Super helpful, much appreciated!

 

[Rickd]

The money NOT RECEIVED by ACC members due to the Raycom "deal" ... that $82 million dollars per year ... if that has been the case since the new Raycom deal was signed in 2010 ... that is 14 years * $82 million = $1.15 billion dollars NOT received by ACC conference members due to Sowfford's "nepotism" deal with junior. Grand larceny? Time to dissolve the ACC due to negligence? Just give everybody up to 2 years to find a new home.

 

[JD08]

The money NOT RECEIVED by ACC members due to the Raycom "deal" ... that $82 million dollars per year ... if that has been the case since the new Raycom deal was signed in 2010 ... that is 14 years * $82 million = $1.15 billion dollars NOT received by ACC conference members due to Sowfford's "nepotism" deal with junior. Grand larceny? Time to dissolve the ACC due to negligence? Just give everybody up to 2 years to find a new home.

Sue the ACC to recover.

 

[Rickd]

Sue the ACC to recover.

Just have our portion cover our EXIT FEE. Adios.

 

[Ispyin]

There is that beautiful, horrible word again, AND I LOVE IT!

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Old enough to remember being (attempted) slandered in here alongside you and a couple of others when a few detours took place prior to the inevitable arrival at our destination

thanks for saving my fingers (as usual). I’ll go get the popcorn and wait for the idiots to enter the chat.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Old enough to remember being (attempted) slandered in here alongside you and a couple of others when a few detours took place prior to the inevitable arrival at our destination

thanks for saving my fingers (as usual). I’ll go get the popcorn and wait for the idiots to enter the chat.

Yes.

We should be good little universities.

Sit down, shut up, and live with our GOR until 2036.

We shoulda/woulda/coulda known better.

The documents are ironclad and irrevocable.

We only have ourselves to blame, along with Beta Blake and Dan Radakovich.



Good times...