Empirical Cane
We are what we repeatedly do.
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Burn it all to the ground.
There are estimates that big ten will be 10-15 m higher than that graph. But ok. One school on whole conference winds up till being by millions worst school in big ten
Imagine a scenario where the ACC has strong leadership and raids the PAC12 to get Washington, Oregon, UCLA, and USC instead of the BIG10.
Members do deserve better! Better than what this league and its leaders have provided!!Wow, i know it's his job to represent the ACC but that's a very ignorant statement
or the Great Emu Wars....If I were an FSU or Clemson fan, I'd be feeling just like an Aussie Infantryman on the shores of ANZAC Cove in Gallipoli.
The three stooges here have predicted Miami's exit multiple times (not to mention FSU's) , based on their insider status and expertise!Not anytime recently by anyone with a brain.
You know nothing just stating what you would like to see ... your opinion period. Obviously no conference will add ANY school without their media rights ... hence the law suits that have just commenced. What do you expect Phillips to say after having lost the battle of public opinion? He is trying to save his multi million dollar salary nothing else.The three stooges here have predicted Miami's exit multiple times (not to mention FSU's) , based on their insider status and expertise!
It's all been BS.
ACC is not going to lose these lawsuits.
They have no incentive to settle in the interim.
I don't believe FSU and Clemson would even get full share bids regardless, but nobody will touch them with the GOR unsettled.
Only wildcard is what will ESPN do ...
A lot of people are going to give you crap for this opinion because everybody is eager to get out of the ACC and go to greener pastures. But it does look like this is going to be the case, ie, the ACC is not going to settle with FSU or Clemson and this is going to be a protracted legal divorce that will take years to settle.The three stooges here have predicted Miami's exit multiple times (not to mention FSU's) , based on their insider status and expertise!
It's all been BS.
ACC is not going to lose these lawsuits.
They have no incentive to settle in the interim.
I don't believe FSU and Clemson would even get full share bids regardless, but nobody will touch them with the GOR unsettled.
Only wildcard is what will ESPN do ...
A lot of people are going to give you crap for this opinion because everybody is eager to get out of the ACC and go to greener pastures. But it does look like this is going to be the case, ie, the ACC is not going to settle with FSU or Clemson and this is going to be a protracted legal divorce that will take years to settle.
I think the delay is a net positive though for the handful of academic powers that have been under performing and slow to adjust to the new NIL era of college athletics.
The biggest issue IN the law suits by both FSU / Clemson is the interpretation of phrases in the ESPN media agreement ... FSU's legal team just received a copy ... finally ... 10 days ago and Clemson about a month ago. They both now have a document that they can reference in a filing so there most likely will be some request for a ruling in a relatively short window. Not saying it will be over ... but a ruling confirming the interpretation is what both schools state would be a major win (as it would confirm media rights are maintained by the schools on exiting the conference) and possibly sufficient for exit announcement while litigation continues over the ACC exit fee itself.A lot of people are going to give you crap for this opinion because everybody is eager to get out of the ACC and go to greener pastures. But it does look like this is going to be the case, ie, the ACC is not going to settle with FSU or Clemson and this is going to be a protracted legal divorce that will take years to settle.
I think the delay is a net positive though for the handful of academic powers that have been under performing and slow to adjust to the new NIL era of college athletics.
The biggest issue IN the law suits by both FSU / Clemson is the interpretation of phrases in the ESPN media agreement ... FSU's legal team just received a copy ... finally ... 10 days ago and Clemson about a month ago. They both now have a document that they can reference in a filing so there most likely will be some request for a ruling in a relatively short window. Not saying it will be over ... but a ruling confirming the interpretation is what both schools state would be a major win (as it would confirm media rights are maintained by the schools on exiting the conference) and possibly sufficient for exit announcement while litigation continues over the ACC exit fee itself.
It wasn't language from the GOR ... that complete document and the extension have both been posted online for over a year. It was from what they read in the ESPN media agreement but they couldn't reference the specific wording as they were not in possession of the document. You are correct in that the Florida judge kept commenting "rights to the old games right? The ones already played" as remaining with ESPN. That is why getting the ESPN media agreement has been so crucial.The key piece in this topic, during the FSU case in FL, the ACC lawyers basically acknowledged that when a school leaves they take their media rights with them, primarily due to some of the language that was previously made available to both sides from the GOR.
It still has to be formally ruled upon, but it’s a forgone conclusion at this point.
It wasn't language from the GOR ... that complete document and the extension have both been posted online for over a year. It was from what they read in the ESPN media agreement but they couldn't reference the specific wording as they were not in possession of the document. You are correct in that the Florida judge kept commenting "rights to the old games right? The ones already played" as remaining with ESPN. That is why getting the ESPN media agreement has been so crucial.
Glad you folks with under 1,000 post counts have everything figured out regarding the Twitter parrots and their hot takes
Please continue keeping us in the loop, you guys are doing the Lord’s work