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P-Tizzle said:
Portal isn’t the context; it’s HS recruiting and evaluation. If the portal was the context, there isn’t a debate, Mario has been pretty bad at the portal.
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No, portal IS the context; but, fair game. Let’s go back to HS recruiting only. Since U used Oregon as ur example, from
2022-2024: Lanning is hitting, on avg. 40% on his recruits per class thus far which includes guys who have transferred out or get zero PT.

Mario thus far?
Class of 2022:
Bissainthe, Moten, Cooper

Class of 2023:
Mauigoa, Bain, Fletcher, Brown, Bryant, Aguirre, Williams, Joseph

Class of 2024:
Bell, Lofton, Pruitt, Frédérique, McConathy, Lyle, Patterson, Trader

These r the players that have seen PT & not hit the portal as of today

Class of 2022 HS recruiting:
3/15 or 20%

Class of 2023 HS recruiting:
8/26 or 31%

Class of 2024 HS recruiting:
*Early projections, but still time to develop or earn PT:
8/28 or 28.6%

Either way we slice the pie, it can be HS recruiting only, HS + transfer, transfers only, we’re not in the upper tier. We need to be at roughly a 33% (preferably 35%) hit rate per class. Right now, if I included Mario’s HS + Portal rating of guys who have 2+ yrs of eligibility, that **** is at 22%, fam.

So yes, it’s true even the elite recruiters have misevaluations, that’s not rocket science. If every 5* or 4* star guy panned out, then the NFL would have every 5* or 4* kid. However, what the elite program do have r either 1/3 or 2/5 successful/contributors per class & supplemental that missing 2/3 or 3/5 via the portal. That’s how u get a 3rd yr coach have a 2-3 deep roster, which is y I said by year 3, that’s when we’re supposed to see the change.

Right now? We’re back stating “not enough bodies, we gotta attack the portal.” That’s not good heading into yr 4.
 
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Rellyrell said:
No, portal IS the context; but, fair game. Let’s go back to HS recruiting only. Since U used Oregon as ur example, from
2022-2024: Lanning is hitting, on avg. 40% on his recruits per class thus far which includes guys who have transferred out or get zero PT.

Mario thus far?
Class of 2022:
Bissainthe, Moten, Cooper

Class of 2023:
Mauigoa, Bain, Fletcher, Brown, Bryant, Aguirre, Williams, Joseph

Class of 2024:
Bell, Lofton, Pruitt, Frédérique, McConathy, Lyle, Patterson, Trader

These r the players that have seen PT & not hit the portal as of today

Class of 2022 HS recruiting:
3/15 or 20%

Class of 2023 HS recruiting:
8/26 or 31%

Class of 2024 HS recruiting:
*Early projections, but still time to develop or earn PT:
8/28 or 28.6%

Either way we slice the pie, it can be HS recruiting only, HS + transfer, transfers only, we’re not in the upper tier. We need to be at roughly a 33% (preferably 35%) hit rate per class. Right now, if I included Mario’s HS + Portal rating of guys who have 2+ yrs of eligibility, that **** is at 22%, fam.

So yes, it’s true even the elite recruiters have misevaluations, that’s not rocket science. If every 5* or 4* star guy panned out, then the NFL would have every 5* or 4* kid. However, what the elite program do have r either 1/3 or 2/5 successful/contributors per class & supplemental that missing 2/3 or 3/5 via the portal. That’s how u get a 3rd yr coach have a 2-3 deep roster, which is y I said by year 3, that’s when we’re supposed to see the change.

Right now? We’re back stating “not enough bodies, we gotta attack the portal.” That’s not good heading into yr 4.
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So Mario is getting better each year. Great. Elite recruiter. And if playing time is your standard:

2024 class: Lyle, Scott, Blount, Patterson, Trader, Carr, Pickett, Lofton, Hayes, Bell, Pruitt, Frédérique, McConathy 13/28 and two of the recruits were a QB and K who had no chance of playing (although the K did so he should count). That’s 50% for 2024 class.
 
P-Tizzle said:
Fine. For others then. Here’s UGA for 2023:

Jordan Hall 4 tackles 0 sacks 0 TFLs
AJ Harris transferred to Penn St
Joenel Aguero 22 tackles 0 INT 1 PD
Monroe Freeling four starts
Troy Bowles 0 tackles 0 sacks 0 tfl
Bo Hughley appeared in 3 games 0 starts
Sam M’Pemba 0 tackles 0 sacks 0 tfls in portal

That’s 7 of top 11 complete busts for UGA.

Once again. Predicting how 17 years olds are going to translate to the next level is effing hard.
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You’re wasting your time brother. It don’t take much for UM fans to turn on coaches and/or players.
 
Rellyrell said:
No, portal IS the context; but, fair game. Let’s go back to HS recruiting only. Since U used Oregon as ur example, from
2022-2024: Lanning is hitting, on avg. 40% on his recruits per class thus far which includes guys who have transferred out or get zero PT.

Mario thus far?
Class of 2022:
Bissainthe, Moten, Cooper

Class of 2023:
Mauigoa, Bain, Fletcher, Brown, Bryant, Aguirre, Williams, Joseph

Class of 2024:
Bell, Lofton, Pruitt, Frédérique, McConathy, Lyle, Patterson, Trader

These r the players that have seen PT & not hit the portal as of today

Class of 2022 HS recruiting:
3/15 or 20%

Class of 2023 HS recruiting:
8/26 or 31%

Class of 2024 HS recruiting:
*Early projections, but still time to develop or earn PT:
8/28 or 28.6%

Either way we slice the pie, it can be HS recruiting only, HS + transfer, transfers only, we’re not in the upper tier. We need to be at roughly a 33% (preferably 35%) hit rate per class. Right now, if I included Mario’s HS + Portal rating of guys who have 2+ yrs of eligibility, that **** is at 22%, fam.

So yes, it’s true even the elite recruiters have misevaluations, that’s not rocket science. If every 5* or 4* star guy panned out, then the NFL would have every 5* or 4* kid. However, what the elite program do have r either 1/3 or 2/5 successful/contributors per class & supplemental that missing 2/3 or 3/5 via the portal. That’s how u get a 3rd yr coach have a 2-3 deep roster, which is y I said by year 3, that’s when we’re supposed to see the change.

Right now? We’re back stating “not enough bodies, we gotta attack the portal.” That’s not good heading into yr 4.
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Yea portal is the context and his evals been better than the last head coaches but still not no where close to us being elite at all by a long shot. If he cant do it put a fork in the program its done IMO. It looks bleak asf tbh
 
P-Tizzle said:
So Mario is getting better each year. Great. Elite recruiter. And if playing time is your standard:

2024 class: Lyle, Scott, Blount, Patterson, Trader, Carr, Pickett, Lofton, Hayes, Bell, Pruitt, Frédérique, McConathy 13/28 and two of the recruits were a QB and K who had no chance of playing (although the K did so he should count). That’s 50% for 2024 class.
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I'd throw out 2022 - a chunk of that was Manny's class. Mario came in shortly before ESD and got some late additions.
 
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mik303 said:
Why does #19 have his shorts nearly pulled up to his nipples?
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Retro fashion.

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Dwinstitles said:
Yea portal is the context and his evals been better than the last head coaches but still not no where close to us being elite at all by a long shot. If he cant do it put a fork in the program its done IMO. It looks bleak asf tbh
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I said this when Mario was hired, if he didn't get his buddies to invest heavily in HS football in the tri county area and put on a ton of camps and clinics FOR COACHES he'd be screwed.

S Florida HS's are behind on scheme, technique, and S&C. Being in Miami isn't really serving him the advantage it used to. No clear cut advantage of signing IMG athletes either.

Then you have his strength staff and the development once you're on campus is clearly lacking.
 
Ironmanfootball said:
I said this when Mario was hired, if he didn't get his buddies to invest heavily in HS football in the tri county area and put on a ton of camps and clinics FOR COACHES he'd be screwed.

S Florida HS's are behind on scheme, technique, and S&C. Being in Miami isn't really serving him the advantage it used to. No clear cut advantage of signing IMG athletes either.

Then you have his strength staff and the development once you're on campus is clearly lacking.
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He has to identify better like he did with Wiley, we need more of those
 
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Rellyrell said:
No, portal IS the context; but, fair game. Let’s go back to HS recruiting only. Since U used Oregon as ur example, from
2022-2024: Lanning is hitting, on avg. 40% on his recruits per class thus far which includes guys who have transferred out or get zero PT.

Mario thus far?
Class of 2022:
Bissainthe, Moten, Cooper

Class of 2023:
Mauigoa, Bain, Fletcher, Brown, Bryant, Aguirre, Williams, Joseph

Class of 2024:
Bell, Lofton, Pruitt, Frédérique, McConathy, Lyle, Patterson, Trader

These r the players that have seen PT & not hit the portal as of today

Class of 2022 HS recruiting:
3/15 or 20%

Class of 2023 HS recruiting:
8/26 or 31%

Class of 2024 HS recruiting:
*Early projections, but still time to develop or earn PT:
8/28 or 28.6%

Either way we slice the pie, it can be HS recruiting only, HS + transfer, transfers only, we’re not in the upper tier. We need to be at roughly a 33% (preferably 35%) hit rate per class. Right now, if I included Mario’s HS + Portal rating of guys who have 2+ yrs of eligibility, that **** is at 22%, fam.

So yes, it’s true even the elite recruiters have misevaluations, that’s not rocket science. If every 5* or 4* star guy panned out, then the NFL would have every 5* or 4* kid. However, what the elite program do have r either 1/3 or 2/5 successful/contributors per class & supplemental that missing 2/3 or 3/5 via the portal. That’s how u get a 3rd yr coach have a 2-3 deep roster, which is y I said by year 3, that’s when we’re supposed to see the change.

Right now? We’re back stating “not enough bodies, we gotta attack the portal.” That’s not good heading into yr 4.
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It ain't happening my boi. Mario just has to maintain a pulse for most here.
 
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Rellyrell said:
No, portal IS the context; but, fair game. Let’s go back to HS recruiting only. Since U used Oregon as ur example, from
2022-2024: Lanning is hitting, on avg. 40% on his recruits per class thus far which includes guys who have transferred out or get zero PT.

Mario thus far?
Class of 2022:
Bissainthe, Moten, Cooper

Class of 2023:
Mauigoa, Bain, Fletcher, Brown, Bryant, Aguirre, Williams, Joseph

Class of 2024:
Bell, Lofton, Pruitt, Frédérique, McConathy, Lyle, Patterson, Trader

These r the players that have seen PT & not hit the portal as of today

Class of 2022 HS recruiting:
3/15 or 20%

Class of 2023 HS recruiting:
8/26 or 31%

Class of 2024 HS recruiting:
*Early projections, but still time to develop or earn PT:
8/28 or 28.6%

Either way we slice the pie, it can be HS recruiting only, HS + transfer, transfers only, we’re not in the upper tier. We need to be at roughly a 33% (preferably 35%) hit rate per class. Right now, if I included Mario’s HS + Portal rating of guys who have 2+ yrs of eligibility, that **** is at 22%, fam.

So yes, it’s true even the elite recruiters have misevaluations, that’s not rocket science. If every 5* or 4* star guy panned out, then the NFL would have every 5* or 4* kid. However, what the elite program do have r either 1/3 or 2/5 successful/contributors per class & supplemental that missing 2/3 or 3/5 via the portal. That’s how u get a 3rd yr coach have a 2-3 deep roster, which is y I said by year 3, that’s when we’re supposed to see the change.

Right now? We’re back stating “not enough bodies, we gotta attack the portal.” That’s not good heading into yr 4.
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Your opinion of the 2023 class leaves several players off when considering there age and “expected” contributions. The MAJOR exclusion is Joyce. He starts at his position. Then I would argue Chris Johnson Jr and Emory Williams played enough to be on the lists. You add those 3 and now his hit rate is 11/26 or 43%. Now on to 2024. You left Scott, Picket and Hayes off, all of which played snaps in multiple games as true freshman. Add just those 3 (and there is a lot more “potential” in that class as well) you get 11/28 or 39.2%. I think you are on to something, but clearly some form of bias is skewing your data and your outcome doesn’t match the facts.
 
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EmCane said:
Your opinion of the 2023 class leaves several players off when considering there age and “expected” contributions. The MAJOR exclusion is Joyce. He starts at his position. Then I would argue Chris Johnson Jr and Emory Williams played enough to be on the lists. You add those 3 and now his hit rate is 11/26 or 43%. Now on to 2024. You left Scott, Picket and Hayes off, all of which played snaps in multiple games as true freshman. Add just those 3 (and there is a lot more “potential” in that class as well) you get 11/28 or 39.2%. I think you are on to something, but clearly some form of bias is skewing your data and your outcome doesn’t match the facts.
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So everyone that gets on the field is a hit? Wtf are we doing.
 
cway313 said:
So everyone that gets on the field is a hit? Wtf are we doing.
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No not everyone (will type slow, so you only read words I write) but true freshman that see field over upperclassmen and who have playing time held back to maintain their red shirt are a hit. Let’s go 1 by 1

Scott - you don’t think he is a “hit”?
Pickett - you don’t think he is a “hit”?
Hayes - you don’t think he is a “hit”?

Please explain oh enlightened one, why these 3 true freshman who had playing time and made plays while on field are not hits.
 
EmCane said:
No not everyone (will type slow, so you only read words I write) but true freshman that see field over upperclassmen and who have playing time held back to maintain their red shirt are a hit. Let’s go 1 by 1

Scott - you don’t think he is a “hit”?
Pickett - you don’t think he is a “hit”?
Hayes - you don’t think he is a “hit”?

Please explain oh enlightened one, why these 3 true freshman who had playing time and made plays while on field are not hits.
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Nvm, I realize you are the participation trophy type. Everybody is great!
 
EmCane said:
Your opinion of the 2023 class leaves several players off when considering there age and “expected” contributions. The MAJOR exclusion is Joyce. He starts at his position. Then I would argue Chris Johnson Jr and Emory Williams played enough to be on the lists. You add those 3 and now his hit rate is 11/26 or 43%. Now on to 2024. You left Scott, Picket and Hayes off, all of which played snaps in multiple games as true freshman. Add just those 3 (and there is a lot more “potential” in that class as well) you get 11/28 or 39.2%. I think you are on to something, but clearly some form of bias is skewing your data and your outcome doesn’t match the facts.
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Uh,

1. Chris Johnson is no longer on the team
2. I included Williams in the class of 2023
3. Why would I include a punter who’s like 33?
4. I literally said for class of 2024 “early projections time to develop.”

What r u talking about?
 
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