Coley on his offense

[The Franchise]

He ran no huddle before anyone....well because he hadn't invited the huddle yet...

He invented the wishbone before birds existed.

 

[Picksix]

Exactly how I see it. He did a pretty good job, but the way he's revered around these parts you'd think he was Sid Gillman or Don Coryell. And when did he become this renowned playbook designer whatever that is anyway?

Playbook design means just that. Making a playbook for an offense. I was under the assumption you knew a little bit about Jedd when we hired him...

"In 2001, Dom Capers, a longtime NFL defensive mastermind, had been hired to be the founding coach of the expansion Houston Texans franchise. When looking to hire a staff, Capers called up his old friend Spurrier and asked for a recommendation. Spurrier had the perfect guy in mind.

Jedd Fisch, welcome to Houston.

“I was fortunate that of the 11 years Coach Spurrier was there at Florida, he recommended me to go of all the people he had worked with,” Fisch said.

So Fisch was off to Texas, forming one part of a three-headed crew — along with Capers and Chris Palmer — that laid the foundation for the organization a whole year before the team even played its first game. The threesome spent eight months building the program during Year 0 of the franchise, developing practice plans, making playbooks, breaking down film and constructing the Texans from scratch."

LULZ at the Legend of Jedd Fisch grows...

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That's all you could dig up? A reporter's claim that Fish, as a 24 year old in his first year in the NFL as a DEFENSIVE quality control guy, was designing playbooks. The "making playbooks" bit wasn't a quote. It was a throw away line from the reporter. Ouch. I'd delete that post if I was you, brother. That's a rough one. If I could suggest anything it's don't heel dig on this and try to turn it into something it isn't. Just admit you tripped on your d1ck and move on.

Give me a break! Making playbooks is a "throw away line from the reporter" now? LULZ!!!

Yeah, Jedd was brought along to build an NFL franchise from the ground up because he knew nothing about nothing and had no input whatsoever. He was hired with the Ravens and Broncos because he knew nothing and had zero input.

People on here claim that Golden isn't an X's and O's guy either. LULZ!!!

Keep thinking Coley was hired to install some new playbook that he brought along with him. When the offense look's just like it did last year we'll return to this thread. Jedd Fisch designing playbooks was just a legend, now once proven wrong it's just a throw away line from a reporter. LULZ!!!

Yikes.com

Yeah, we'll agree to disagree. Our OPINIONS differ greatly on this topic.

I just don't think Golden "Master Planner" has the idea of changing up "HIS" system every time one of our coordinators moves on. Doesn't fit his MO at all.

 

[GrozDozer]

I doubt that Coley came here to run the exact same offense Fish ran. And Fish's offense looked nothing like Al's offense at Temple. I don't think Fish was merely a puppet doing what Al told him to do. I don't think Coley will be a puppet either. They might try to keep a lot of the same "language" with the Fish offense, but I don't expect Coley to come in here and run the same offense we saw last year.

I can't remember if it was something I read or if I heard Al say it on National Signing Day but he basically said "We're gone be running the same offense Coleys gonna call the plays".

If its the same interview I saw, Al said we'll use a lot of the same " terminology ", that's far from using the same playbook.

The only time I've ever heard of an Oc coming in and learning a playbook is if it's the Hc's system and he doesn't want to call plays anymore. It'll always be his system and in most cases that coach will just premote from within .

No Oc worth a **** would come in and be told " here , run the old guys stuff, not your system ".

Alabama does it every few years on Offense and Defense

 

[hollyhood27]

I am actually starting to wonder if this poster has had the swine flu recently? or maybe he's been attacked by a bear...

Actually my source told me this one but I will leave him nameless.

 

[The Franchise]

Playbook design means just that. Making a playbook for an offense. I was under the assumption you knew a little bit about Jedd when we hired him...

"In 2001, Dom Capers, a longtime NFL defensive mastermind, had been hired to be the founding coach of the expansion Houston Texans franchise. When looking to hire a staff, Capers called up his old friend Spurrier and asked for a recommendation. Spurrier had the perfect guy in mind.

Jedd Fisch, welcome to Houston.

“I was fortunate that of the 11 years Coach Spurrier was there at Florida, he recommended me to go of all the people he had worked with,” Fisch said.

So Fisch was off to Texas, forming one part of a three-headed crew — along with Capers and Chris Palmer — that laid the foundation for the organization a whole year before the team even played its first game. The threesome spent eight months building the program during Year 0 of the franchise, developing practice plans, making playbooks, breaking down film and constructing the Texans from scratch."

LULZ at the Legend of Jedd Fisch grows...

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That's all you could dig up? A reporter's claim that Fish, as a 24 year old in his first year in the NFL as a DEFENSIVE quality control guy, was designing playbooks. The "making playbooks" bit wasn't a quote. It was a throw away line from the reporter. Ouch. I'd delete that post if I was you, brother. That's a rough one. If I could suggest anything it's don't heel dig on this and try to turn it into something it isn't. Just admit you tripped on your d1ck and move on.

Give me a break! Making playbooks is a "throw away line from the reporter" now? LULZ!!!

Yeah, Jedd was brought along to build an NFL franchise from the ground up because he knew nothing about nothing and had no input whatsoever. He was hired with the Ravens and Broncos because he knew nothing and had zero input.

People on here claim that Golden isn't an X's and O's guy either. LULZ!!!

Keep thinking Coley was hired to install some new playbook that he brought along with him. When the offense look's just like it did last year we'll return to this thread. Jedd Fisch designing playbooks was just a legend, now once proven wrong it's just a throw away line from a reporter. LULZ!!!

Yikes.com

Yeah, we'll agree to disagree. Our OPINIONS differ greatly on this topic.

I just don't think Golden "Master Planner" has the idea of changing up "HIS" system every time one of our coordinators moves on. Doesn't fit his MO at all.

At least you're attempting to distance yourself from the argument that all future OCs under Al will be saddled with Fish's playbook. No one ever questioned that Al will give the general outline of the system that he wants in place.

 

[nadiamufdi]

3 yds and a cloud of dust!

 

[Dingaan1828]

3 yds and a cloud of dust!

Woody Hayes ran that before dust was discovered.

 

[hollyhood27]

3 yds and a cloud of dust!

Woody Hayes ran that before dust was discovered.

But I thought Jedd taught that to Woody?

 

[rudebuddha]

3 yds and a cloud of dust!

We have Duke, that's 80 yards and a cloud of dust.

 

[Picksix]

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That's all you could dig up? A reporter's claim that Fish, as a 24 year old in his first year in the NFL as a DEFENSIVE quality control guy, was designing playbooks. The "making playbooks" bit wasn't a quote. It was a throw away line from the reporter. Ouch. I'd delete that post if I was you, brother. That's a rough one. If I could suggest anything it's don't heel dig on this and try to turn it into something it isn't. Just admit you tripped on your d1ck and move on.

Give me a break! Making playbooks is a "throw away line from the reporter" now? LULZ!!!

Yeah, Jedd was brought along to build an NFL franchise from the ground up because he knew nothing about nothing and had no input whatsoever. He was hired with the Ravens and Broncos because he knew nothing and had zero input.

People on here claim that Golden isn't an X's and O's guy either. LULZ!!!

Keep thinking Coley was hired to install some new playbook that he brought along with him. When the offense look's just like it did last year we'll return to this thread. Jedd Fisch designing playbooks was just a legend, now once proven wrong it's just a throw away line from a reporter. LULZ!!!

Yikes.com

Yeah, we'll agree to disagree. Our OPINIONS differ greatly on this topic.

I just don't think Golden "Master Planner" has the idea of changing up "HIS" system every time one of our coordinators moves on. Doesn't fit his MO at all.

At least you're attempting to distance yourself from the argument that all future OCs under Al will be saddled with Fish's playbook. No one ever questioned that Al will give the general outline of the system that he wants in place.

I said we will agree to disagree. I'm not distancing myself from anything. Golden feels very confident in year #3 with what he has going. IMO a new system is not being implemented this offseason by Coley. No one is going to be saddled with a Fisch playbook. It's a Golden playbook that Fisch helped him design to run at Miami. Like I said, Coley may implement new plays based on new players strengths and weaknesses and call plays a little differently but he's not bringing in his new system.

You have your opinion and I have mine. Just because we don't agree doesn't make either of us right and I'm certainly not distancing myself from anything.

 

[jerzeycane]

Golden has said more than once that the goal will be for Coley to keep things as similar as possible to what Fisch was teaching and that's right down to the terminology

 

[jakeman1]

Seems like it would be easier for Coley to learn the offense himself, then start tweaking it the way he likes instead of installing a brand new offense, especially when Morris now has two years of experience with it. Coley can phase in his changes slowly. He could start by leaving out some of the gimmicky plays inside the 20.

 

[Picksix]

Seems like it would be easier for Coley to learn the offense himself, then start tweaking it the way he likes instead of installing a brand new offense, especially when Morris now has two years of experience with it. Coley can phase in his changes slowly. He could start by leaving out some of the gimmicky plays inside the 20.

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Of course it does! You think Golden is trying to implement an entire new system in year #3 when he feels confident in what he has coming back while Morris is in year #3 of his current system? Like I said, Fisch is an offensive minded guru. Golden was a TE in college so to say he doesn't have a grasp of offensive X's and O's is absurd. It's much easier for Coley to step in and learn the system rather than have the entire roster learn Coley's new system.

Coley can add to the system and call a different game but there's no way in **** a new offensive system is being implemented at Miami in year #3 with Golden at the helm.

 

[CaneSuger]

Playbook design means just that. Making a playbook for an offense. I was under the assumption you knew a little bit about Jedd when we hired him...

"In 2001, Dom Capers, a longtime NFL defensive mastermind, had been hired to be the founding coach of the expansion Houston Texans franchise. When looking to hire a staff, Capers called up his old friend Spurrier and asked for a recommendation. Spurrier had the perfect guy in mind.

Jedd Fisch, welcome to Houston.

“I was fortunate that of the 11 years Coach Spurrier was there at Florida, he recommended me to go of all the people he had worked with,” Fisch said.

So Fisch was off to Texas, forming one part of a three-headed crew — along with Capers and Chris Palmer — that laid the foundation for the organization a whole year before the team even played its first game. The threesome spent eight months building the program during Year 0 of the franchise, developing practice plans, making playbooks, breaking down film and constructing the Texans from scratch."

LULZ at the Legend of Jedd Fisch grows...

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That's all you could dig up? A reporter's claim that Fish, as a 24 year old in his first year in the NFL as a DEFENSIVE quality control guy, was designing playbooks. The "making playbooks" bit wasn't a quote. It was a throw away line from the reporter. Ouch. I'd delete that post if I was you, brother. That's a rough one. If I could suggest anything it's don't heel dig on this and try to turn it into something it isn't. Just admit you tripped on your d1ck and move on.

Give me a break! Making playbooks is a "throw away line from the reporter" now? LULZ!!!

Yeah, Jedd was brought along to build an NFL franchise from the ground up because he knew nothing about nothing and had no input whatsoever. He was hired with the Ravens and Broncos because he knew nothing and had zero input.

People on here claim that Golden isn't an X's and O's guy either. LULZ!!!

Keep thinking Coley was hired to install some new playbook that he brought along with him. When the offense look's just like it did last year we'll return to this thread. Jedd Fisch designing playbooks was just a legend, now once proven wrong it's just a throw away line from a reporter. LULZ!!!

Yikes.com

Yeah, we'll agree to disagree. Our OPINIONS differ greatly on this topic.

I just don't think Golden "Master Planner" has the idea of changing up "HIS" system every time one of our coordinators moves on. Doesn't fit his MO at all.

You are right. There was an interview with Golden on WQAM where he said we would be keeping the same playbook and terminology for the most part next year. Coley will be calling the plays.

 

[Picksix]

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That's all you could dig up? A reporter's claim that Fish, as a 24 year old in his first year in the NFL as a DEFENSIVE quality control guy, was designing playbooks. The "making playbooks" bit wasn't a quote. It was a throw away line from the reporter. Ouch. I'd delete that post if I was you, brother. That's a rough one. If I could suggest anything it's don't heel dig on this and try to turn it into something it isn't. Just admit you tripped on your d1ck and move on.

Give me a break! Making playbooks is a "throw away line from the reporter" now? LULZ!!!

Yeah, Jedd was brought along to build an NFL franchise from the ground up because he knew nothing about nothing and had no input whatsoever. He was hired with the Ravens and Broncos because he knew nothing and had zero input.

People on here claim that Golden isn't an X's and O's guy either. LULZ!!!

Keep thinking Coley was hired to install some new playbook that he brought along with him. When the offense look's just like it did last year we'll return to this thread. Jedd Fisch designing playbooks was just a legend, now once proven wrong it's just a throw away line from a reporter. LULZ!!!

Yikes.com

Yeah, we'll agree to disagree. Our OPINIONS differ greatly on this topic.

I just don't think Golden "Master Planner" has the idea of changing up "HIS" system every time one of our coordinators moves on. Doesn't fit his MO at all.

You are right. There was an interview with Golden on WQAM where he said we would be keeping the same playbook and terminology for the most part next year. Coley will be calling the plays.

Golden plans like a motha fugger! You think this cat brings in a guy like Fisch just because? Coley is going to call his own game. It may be under an old system but he is still calling his own game. He will be able to improve on the system but to think he's bringing in his system is insane.

Golden is a mastermind! He's got this and there's no way in **** a whole new system is being implemented right now.

 

[jerzeycane]

The interview is on WQAM on 2-6 between Golden and Sedano

At about 12 minutes, he talks about Coley and Coley adjusting to the offense/terminology that we have been using over the past couple of years, to smooth the transition for our QB's.

http://wqam.com/interviews

 

[Picksix]

The interview is on WQAM on 2-6 between Golden and Sedano

At about 12 minutes, he talks about Coley and Coley adjusting to the offense/terminology that we have been using over the past couple of years, to smooth the transition for our QB's.

http://wqam.com/interviews

Yes, Golden brought Fisch onboard because Fisch designed playbooks for a living in the NFL. Coley wasn't brought onboard to reinvent the wheel. Let's see chise and his sycophants spin this one. Ought to be good...