Coley on his offense

[Picksix]

Again, Jedd was brought in to design a playbook for Al Golden. Coley was brought in to learn that playbook, add to it, draw up game plans, and call plays. This offense is not going back to square one just because Jedd left. Jedd used to design playbooks for the NFL and that's what he did here. It's easier for Coley to learn this playbook and terminology rather than install a new playbook for the entire offensive roster to learn. That's how Golden operates.

 

[TheSwagger1]

Look forward to learning more about what he'll do. That doesn't really say too much.

Agree. It's typical OC coach speak. I remember people going nuts about Dan Werner's off season comments about his offensive philosophy. It sounded great in sound bites (going to spread the field, expose the middle of the field, blah blah), but in execution, it was awful

"We're gonna be multiple"
"We're going to find out what our athletes do and put them in position to excel"

There's a set of canned answers that all OC/DCs can go to at any time in an interview and give the person asking the question something that sounds great but really tells nothing. And I'm fine with that. It's expected.

 

[bomb]

Look forward to learning more about what he'll do. That doesn't really say too much.

Agree. It's typical OC coach speak. I remember people going nuts about Dan Werner's off season comments about his offensive philosophy. It sounded great in sound bites (going to spread the field, expose the middle of the field, blah blah), but in execution, it was awful

"We're gonna be multiple"
"We're going to find out what our athletes do and put them in position to excel"

There's a set of canned answers that all OC/DCs can go to at any time in an interview and give the person asking the question something that sounds great but really tells nothing. And I'm fine with that. It's expected.

"Were going to be really vanilla and run the same play over and over and try to be as predictable as possible."

 

[Port Knox]

Again, Jedd was brought in to design a playbook for Al Golden. Coley was brought in to learn that playbook, add to it, draw up game plans, and call plays. This offense is not going back to square one just because Jedd left. Jedd used to design playbooks for the NFL and that's what he did here. It's easier for Coley to learn this playbook and terminology rather than install a new playbook for the entire offensive roster to learn. That's how Golden operates.

This is what I'm hoping for. Hope you know something we don't.

 

[SmokeyRone]

Hopefully he doesn't bring the FSU Jump Ball on every play offense

 

[Picksix]

Again, Jedd was brought in to design a playbook for Al Golden. Coley was brought in to learn that playbook, add to it, draw up game plans, and call plays. This offense is not going back to square one just because Jedd left. Jedd used to design playbooks for the NFL and that's what he did here. It's easier for Coley to learn this playbook and terminology rather than install a new playbook for the entire offensive roster to learn. That's how Golden operates.

This is what I'm hoping for. Hope you know something we don't.

It's common sense...

Every year Saban's staff gets raided but Bama just keeps clicking right along. Why is that? Because good coaches have their systems in place and the new staff is expected to learn it and execute it. What's easier, having one experienced coach learn a new system or have 45 college kids learn a new system every time a new coach is hired?

This is Goldens offense that Coley will be expected to run. A new system isn't being installed this offseason.

 

[The Franchise]

we didnt score at all against a good team last year. Nothing against KSU, FSU, ND, and several bad teams.

That's the main thing that bugged me about Fish's offense.

 

[The Franchise]

I doubt that Coley came here to run the exact same offense Fish ran. And Fish's offense looked nothing like Al's offense at Temple. I don't think Fish was merely a puppet doing what Al told him to do. I don't think Coley will be a puppet either. They might try to keep a lot of the same "language" with the Fish offense, but I don't expect Coley to come in here and run the same offense we saw last year.

 

[Artist Formerly Known As]

Yeah didn't say much in there... might as well have just said, "We're gonna feature an offense that runs the ball, passes the ball, and tries to score points."

 

[GrozDozer]

I doubt that Coley came here to run the exact same offense Fish ran. And Fish's offense looked nothing like Al's offense at Temple. I don't think Fish was merely a puppet doing what Al told him to do. I don't think Coley will be a puppet either. They might try to keep a lot of the same "language" with the Fish offense, but I don't expect Coley to come in here and run the same offense we saw last year.

I can't remember if it was something I read or if I heard Al say it on National Signing Day but he basically said "We're gone be running the same offense Coleys gonna call the plays".

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

we didnt score at all against a good team last year. Nothing against KSU, FSU, ND, and several bad teams.

That's the main thing that bugged me about Fish's offense.

We had plenty of opportunities to score in the ND game thanks to the plays Fisch called. There were plenty of open receivers. Remember the 2 drops by Dorsett in the ND game that were sure TDs? If he catches those, we've got momentum, and it's a different ballgame altogether.

KSU and FSU totally shut down our running game, which killed any chance to get a balanced offense going. Not saying that Fisch's play calling couldn't have been better, but KSU manhandled our OL all game long, and we were just sloppy in the FSU game. I don't place all the blame on Fisch for the lack of scoring in those games.

 

[Calicanerepresent]

I enjoyed the interview.

He's got a seriously good QB and weapons all around him, any OC is going to create match-ups to exploit their talent.

We need to play better D, and then we can blow some teams out.

I'm not sure how the RB and more ball control will work itself out, we just have too many playmakers and quick strike potential.

Coach D'Onofrio needs to create drastic improvement from his defensive unit.

 

[The Franchise]

I doubt that Coley came here to run the exact same offense Fish ran. And Fish's offense looked nothing like Al's offense at Temple. I don't think Fish was merely a puppet doing what Al told him to do. I don't think Coley will be a puppet either. They might try to keep a lot of the same "language" with the Fish offense, but I don't expect Coley to come in here and run the same offense we saw last year.

I can't remember if it was something I read or if I heard Al say it on National Signing Day but he basically said "We're gone be running the same offense Coleys gonna call the plays".

Never saw that. I'd have to see the quote and the context. I doubt Al told the press that we will run the same offense Fish ran but there's just a different play caller now.

 

[Picksix]

I doubt that Coley came here to run the exact same offense Fish ran. And Fish's offense looked nothing like Al's offense at Temple. I don't think Fish was merely a puppet doing what Al told him to do. I don't think Coley will be a puppet either. They might try to keep a lot of the same "language" with the Fish offense, but I don't expect Coley to come in here and run the same offense we saw last year.

One of the few times I haven't agreed with you chise. Jedd was brought in to design an offense for Golden. Golden already stated Coley won't be bringing in a new playbook here. Last thing Golden would ever do while building this program back up is have to put in a new system every time a Coordinator leaves. There may be some changes due to personnel strengths here and there but make no mistake about it that Coley is being brought up to speed and will then be the play caller. Jedd's offense may not look like Temple's under Golden but then again Temple didn't have the talent Golden has at Miami either.

 

[The Franchise]

we didnt score at all against a good team last year. Nothing against KSU, FSU, ND, and several bad teams.

That's the main thing that bugged me about Fish's offense.

We had plenty of opportunities to score in the ND game thanks to the plays Fisch called. There were plenty of open receivers. Remember the 2 drops by Dorsett in the ND game that were sure TDs? If he catches those, we've got momentum, and it's a different ballgame altogether.

KSU and FSU totally shut down our running game, which killed any chance to get a balanced offense going. Not saying that Fisch's play calling couldn't have been better, but KSU manhandled our OL all game long, and we were just sloppy in the FSU game. I don't place all the blame on Fisch for the lack of scoring in those games.

I don't see where anyone put ALL the blame of Fish for those games. But it's a results business, and the strength and experience of this team was on the offensive side of the ball. We **** ourselves against the good teams in 2012, and we did similarly in 2011.

 

[Picksix]

The offense and special teams have been dynamite under Golden. Defense is never a problem with any of the Big Three Colleges in FL. The defense will be night and day better this season and Miami will be kicking *** and taking names.

 

[The Franchise]

I doubt that Coley came here to run the exact same offense Fish ran. And Fish's offense looked nothing like Al's offense at Temple. I don't think Fish was merely a puppet doing what Al told him to do. I don't think Coley will be a puppet either. They might try to keep a lot of the same "language" with the Fish offense, but I don't expect Coley to come in here and run the same offense we saw last year.

One of the few times I haven't agreed with you chise. Jedd was brought in to design an offense for Golden. Golden already stated Coley won't be bringing in a new playbook here. Last thing Golden would ever do while building this program back up is have to put in a new system every time a Coordinator leaves. There may be some changes due to personnel strengths here and there but make no mistake about it that Coley is being brought up to speed and will then be the play caller. Jedd's offense may not look like Temple's under Golden but then again Temple didn't have the talent Golden has at Miami either.

I never saw anywhere from anyone connected to the situation stating that Fish was brought in to "design a playbook". I think that's an opinion that might have gained legs on message boards. My opinion, on the other hand, is that Fish was brought in to be UM's OC. Part of that job was installing a playbook. To say he was brought in here to build the blueprint for Al's offense for the rest of Al's career is not supported by anything I've seen.

I also haven't seen anything that supports the opinion that Al stated Coley won't be bringing in a new playbook. He was not part of the previous staff, was not a Fish "disciple", and I doubt that he'd have taken a lateral move for less money to be a robot stuck with Fish's playbook. This dude will have leeway to design plays and install plays.

I think we will try to keep the language as similar as possible to lessen the confusion with the players and make the transition easier. For instance, a guy like Gruden was famous for having such an intricate language when calling plays that it was almost impossible for young QBs to make it work. Al will most likely have Coley keep the manner in which plays are called and the nomenclature similar, but Coley will still have freedom to do his thing.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

The quotes didn't say anything. We'll see what Coley has when it's short yardage or red zone against quality teams. That's the reference point I always use. The finesse teams get scared in those situations and bail out to shotgun 4 or 5 wide sets even if it's 3rd and one and a half. It can succeed only if you have an extraordinary talent like Manziel to bail you out. For the rest of us, the premier opponents salivate and rotate forward when they sense frailty. They attack the formation and the quarterback, establishing the physical pecking order. The cutesy team is exposed, and doomed to wilt. That's where we were last season.

Alabama operates just the opposite. They'll run spread and pistol variants in the middle of the field all the time. But once they hit a big play and it's 1st and 10 at the 8, they'll rush to the line of scrimmage and seamlessly switch to a power set, without changing personnel. It's beautiful to behold. At that point they can do anything. The opponent has to respect the power look but Alabama always has clever basic college type quarterbacks who can execute the play fake and hit soft touch passes.

IMO, that was one of Fisch's major problems at Miami last season. Morris is stuck once he's inside the 10 yard line against a top foe. He's not a running threat and his line drive happy style is hardly ideal within tight quarters. Top teams force you to make a play to score down there. You can't merely execute a lame 5 yard dumpoff screen and waltz into the end zone, like our tying touchdown against Georgia Tech. A year earlier at least we had Streeter to catch the jump balls, and obviously Jacory had far superior touch to Morris.

I was never a big Fisch supporter, based on how seldom he ran the ball. But I can see how his red zone designs would be fine with a clever quarterback, someone who can alter pace and loft to fit the evolving requirements of the play. Nix was a disaster. I jumped out of my chair and screamed, based on the sets he used at Norman inside the red zone. You'd need a genius at quarterback to bail us out. With Fisch I was annoyed he simply didn't seem to grasp Morris' limitations, and how the result would vary drastically depending on the caliber of opponent.

Kaepernick is obviously quite different than Morris but as someone who was rooting for the Ravens, due to Ed Reed, I had thoughts along the same line, when Gore was shoved out at the 7 yard line on the final drive. This isn't the worst scenario to stop them, I concluded, and said to friends watching the game with me. You can't be confident in running it in but Kaepernick lacks great touch and ability to drop it into any window necessary. Occasionally he'll scramble and demonstrate nice impromptu touch but his default is a winged fastball. If the 49ers had 1st down at let's say the 15 or the 3, I doubt Baltimore could have stopped them.

 

[DJnitro]

I would like to see us do a little bit of Pistol Formation.

So basically, the offense we've already been running but with more TE involvement.

Hoping Coley slows it down a little and maybe runs the ball more.

Why slow it down?

Because our time of possession numbers are awful (2nd to last in the country), and hurt an already weak defense. Unless we're planning on being Oregon (we're not), we need to slow the offense down a bit and practice a little better ball control.

Last year we made a conscious decision to try to outscore teams. We'd go for a lot of big plays, and hit on a number of them, but it contributed to the 'feast or famine' nature of our offense that created added pressure on the defense. That's not the championship model Golden is trying to build.

It's up to our defense to catch up to our offense. We were very effective running a speed offense last year.In short, keep what works, fix what doesn't.

 

[Picksix]

I doubt that Coley came here to run the exact same offense Fish ran. And Fish's offense looked nothing like Al's offense at Temple. I don't think Fish was merely a puppet doing what Al told him to do. I don't think Coley will be a puppet either. They might try to keep a lot of the same "language" with the Fish offense, but I don't expect Coley to come in here and run the same offense we saw last year.

One of the few times I haven't agreed with you chise. Jedd was brought in to design an offense for Golden. Golden already stated Coley won't be bringing in a new playbook here. Last thing Golden would ever do while building this program back up is have to put in a new system every time a Coordinator leaves. There may be some changes due to personnel strengths here and there but make no mistake about it that Coley is being brought up to speed and will then be the play caller. Jedd's offense may not look like Temple's under Golden but then again Temple didn't have the talent Golden has at Miami either.

I never saw anywhere from anyone connected to the situation stating that Fish was brought in to "design a playbook". I think that's an opinion that might have gained legs on message boards. My opinion, on the other hand, is that Fish was brought in to be UM's OC. Part of that job was installing a playbook. To say he was brought in here to build the blueprint for Al's offense for the rest of Al's career is not supported by anything I've seen.

I also haven't seen anything that supports the opinion that Al stated Coley won't be bringing in a new playbook. He was not part of the previous staff, was not a Fish "disciple", and I doubt that he'd have taken a lateral move for less money to be a robot stuck with Fish's playbook. This dude will have leeway to design plays and install plays.

I think we will try to keep the language as similar as possible to lessen the confusion with the players and make the transition easier. For instance, a guy like Gruden was famous for having such an intricate language when calling plays that it was almost impossible for young QBs to make it work. Al will most likely have Coley keep the manner in which plays are called and the nomenclature similar, but Coley will still have freedom to do his thing.

Really? Come on Chise... You know how Golden operates. Golden wants this football program to have an identity. Jedd comes in who just so happens to design NFL playbooks for a living to do what? Put in two years and haul ***? No, Golden had him design a playbook and system for the Canes. Like I said, it's much easier to bring in someone like Coley who has a high football IQ to learn a current system and get up to speed with the current terminology rather than have your entire offensive roster learn a new system before spring ball.

Let's see what Coley said, he's going to run multiple formations getting the players in position to make plays against the weaknesses of the opposing defenses? It's not like Jedd was running something Coley has never heard of before. This isn't rocket science.

Of course Coley will be allowed to call the plays but you best believe Golden will have a say in the game plan and offensive philosophy. Golden knows what he wants to run and Coley will run that. The reason I mentioned Bama and Saban is because Bama changed OC's and the offense never skipped a beat because they ran the same offensive philosophy, the Saban philosophy. Part of Randy's problem while he was here was he had no philosophy. As Coordinators came and went so did the current system and the players were always back to square one in the offseason. Amateur hour is over at Miami. Golden runs this **** now and has his hands in everything.