Coach D; One Players Perspective

[WhatTheHell]

We should've never fired Randy then, as there is now no timeline on acquiring "pieces."

Guys like Zook and Dooley just should've told their ADs that they needed their pieces, and uh, they'll get here when they get here.

randy was part of the previous regime.. he was the number 2 in that regime, and the pieces that were "there", especially defensively, he was responsible for. We also had 0 evidence that randy could successfully build a program and get it done.. Neither of those are the case for al golden.

I just want to recap your stance so you understand what you're saying on this board and the hypocrisy of it all.

- When we bring up Golden's defensive rankings as a DC at UVA, you quickly dismiss them. You've claimed that he wasn't the head coach, and he wasnt responsible for that personnel, so those results don't matter. We aren't allowed to use them as a reference point for evaluating his defenses throughout his career, because he was just a little old hapless DC with no input on anything.

- Yet now, somehow, Randy Shannon's time as a defensive coordinator has him as the "number 2," not only responsible for some offensive pieces, but according to you, EVERYONE on the defense. He sat in his second-in-command chair, maniacally overpowering Coker and assembling his ideal team.

You've embarrassed yourself quite a good amount.

As to the constant referencing to Golden's time at Temple as some indicator of his future success, it's time you, and those parroting this line, realize his moderate success -- 8/9 wins in a shltty conference, where he never defeated a team with less than 5 losses -- in no way guarantees positive results at a bigger program.


I'd offer you up two recent cases to enjoy. First, Randy Edsall. He took over UCONN when they were a division 2 program, and ended up bringing them to a BCS bowl. He's now ****ting his pants at Maryland. (Well, that and beating Al Golden)

Second, let's not forget Turner Gil. Stepped into a Buffalo program that averaged 1.4 wins a year since 1999 before he got there, and won the MAC in his third season by beating a ranked Ball St team. He was awful at Kansas.

Golden's body of work at Miami is more than enough to speak to his coaching abilities, but please continue to blow dust off the old 2009 Temple media guide after every embarrassing loss we suffer. If that helps you stay positive during this sinking ship, so be it.


But know that your blind hope is misguided, and your hypocrisy in judging a coach's time as a coordinated is, simply put, ***.

 

[eurocane]

Nobody made Chickillo a JAG, he was always a JAG but the scheme and coaching hasn't helped.

He was a JAG in high school, c'mon?

How about developing improving DLiners? L.Robinson,Porter,Green, what did they achieve? Maybe some of them were jags from the beginning however some were blue-chippers out of HS as well. Maybe a player like Chick would make a great DE in a classic 4-3 system playing at about 250 pounds instead of 280+, who knows?

 

[Da_U_85]

We should've never fired Randy then, as there is now no timeline on acquiring "pieces."

Guys like Zook and Dooley just should've told their ADs that they needed their pieces, and uh, they'll get here when they get here.

randy was part of the previous regime.. he was the number 2 in that regime, and the pieces that were "there", especially defensively, he was responsible for. We also had 0 evidence that randy could successfully build a program and get it done.. Neither of those are the case for al golden.

I just want to recap your stance so you understand what you're saying on this board and the hypocrisy of it all.

- When we bring up Golden's defensive rankings as a DC at UVA, you quickly dismiss them. You've claimed that he wasn't the head coach, and he wasnt responsible for that personnel, so those results don't matter. We aren't allowed to use them as a reference point for evaluating his defenses throughout his career, because he was just a little old hapless DC with no input on anything.

- Yet now, somehow, Randy Shannon's time as a defensive coordinator has him as the "number 2," not only responsible for some offensive pieces, but according to you, EVERYONE on the defense. He sat in his second-in-command chair, maniacally overpowering Coker and assembling his ideal team.

You've embarrassed yourself quite a good amount.

As to the constant referencing to Golden's time at Temple as some indicator of his future success, it's time you, and those parroting this line, realize his moderate success -- 8/9 wins in a shltty conference, where he never defeated a team with less than 5 losses -- in no way guarantees positive results at a bigger program.


I'd offer you up two recent cases to enjoy. First, Randy Edsall. He took over UCONN when they were a ****ty division 2 team, and ending up bringing them to a BCS bowl. He's now ****ting his pants at Maryland. (Well, and beating Al Golden)

Second, let's not forget Turner Gil. Stepped into a Buffalo program that averaged 1.4 wins a year since 1999 before he got there, and won the MAC in his third year by beating a ranked Ball St team. He was awful at Kansas.

Golden's body of work at Miami is more than enough to speak to his coaching abilities, but please continue to blow dust off the old 2009 Temple media guide after every embarrassing loss we suffer. If that helps you stay positive during this sinking ship, so be it.


But know that your blind hope is misguided, and your hypocrisy in judging a coach's time as a coordinated is, simply put, ***.

Now you know he won't reply back to this ether you just served him!

 

[guccinikes]

When U say stupid ****, which is bound to happen, sometimes U gotta let it go...

 

[DaU83]

We should've never fired Randy then, as there is now no timeline on acquiring "pieces."

Guys like Zook and Dooley just should've told their ADs that they needed their pieces, and uh, they'll get here when they get here.

randy was part of the previous regime.. he was the number 2 in that regime, and the pieces that were "there", especially defensively, he was responsible for. We also had 0 evidence that randy could successfully build a program and get it done.. Neither of those are the case for al golden.

I just want to recap your stance so you understand what you're saying on this board and the hypocrisy of it all.

- When we bring up Golden's defensive rankings as a DC at UVA, you quickly dismiss them. You've claimed that he wasn't the head coach, and he wasnt responsible for that personnel, so those results don't matter. We aren't allowed to use them as a reference point for evaluating his defenses throughout his career, because he was just a little old hapless DC with no input on anything. Golden was the DC for a defensive coach, and he was running groh's defense ( just like Donof is running al golden's D currently).... Coker was not a defensive coach, and randy was running his scheme.

- Yet now, somehow, Randy Shannon's time as a defensive coordinator has him as the "number 2," not only responsible for some offensive pieces, but according to you, EVERYONE on the defense. He sat in his second-in-command chair, maniacally overpowering Coker and assembling his ideal team. no one said anything about the offensive pieces, i mentioned defensively specifically.. and there's no way randyt wasn't getting the guys he wanted for his defense.

You've embarrassed yourself quite a good amount.

As to the constant referencing to Golden's time at Temple as some indicator of his future success, it's time you, and those parroting this line, realize his moderate success -- 8/9 wins in a shltty conference, where he never defeated a team with less than 5 losses -- in no way guarantees positive results at a bigger program. it's a relative, 8-9 wins in a ****** conference, with our team, is not a success, doing that with temple, is a glaring example of being able to build something long term.


I'd offer you up two recent cases to enjoy. First, Randy Edsall. He took over UCONN when they were a division 2 program, and ended up bringing them to a BCS bowl. He's now ****ting his pants at Maryland. (Well, that and beating Al Golden)

Second, let's not forget Turner Gil. Stepped into a Buffalo program that averaged 1.4 wins a year since 1999 before he got there, and won the MAC in his third season by beating a ranked Ball St team. He was awful at Kansas.

Golden's body of work at Miami is more than enough to speak to his coaching abilities, but please continue to blow dust off the old 2009 Temple media guide after every embarrassing loss we suffer. If that helps you stay positive during this sinking ship, so be it. kansas and maryland don't have the ceiling, those guys went from programs they had built, to programs that even when built aren't going to be naitonal title contenders, that's not the case here.


But know that your blind hope is misguided, and your hypocrisy in judging a coach's time as a coordinated is, simply put, ***.

Things have to be put into proper perspective and context, we don't do that well on this board, which is why it's a clown show.

 

[dolewhipit18]

My kid is at the U. He is a sports fan, journalism type focus and knows a few kids on the team,

He knows a starter on D. He called today and told me this player was very supportive of coach D and reported that was the attitude of the team. Player's opinion, my kid reports, was that plays were well conceived and called but not executed. Full confidence in Coach.

I know this is sketchy without names. I know the "F@ck Manny, Fire Dorito" crowd will hate to hear this.

I also know that's what the kid heard and he is a lot closer to the program than most posters.

Go Canes

See this is my issue though....WHY ARE WE CALLING PLAYS THAT OUR PLAYERS CANT EXECUTE?

Eventually after it happens 12413952423 times someone has to realize that either a.) the scheme is too hard to understand b.) our players are just WAY dumber than every single other team (I highly doubt it is this) or c.) our coaches suck and aren't doing a good job of explaining/teaching the scheme to the guys....

Either way, something needs to change.

 

[Wewillnotgopeacefully]

If you call something your players can't execute, how is it well concieved?


To me, results matter, not intentions. You could intend to schematically outcoach your opponent, but, if the players you help recruit to play in your system fail, you fail.

Why don't you show everyone your report card, from grade school through college, since you are so **** perfect. I could put money on the fact that you did not ace every test with 100% all your stinking life. Yeah yeah, I am sure the teacher wanted you to get better grades but you could not grasp what the **** was going on. People like you need to fall the **** back. I am sure you looked up to your sorry *** parents, but your opinion is the only thing that matters. Riiiiggghhht.

 

[Wewillnotgopeacefully]

My kid is at the U. He is a sports fan, journalism type focus and knows a few kids on the team,

He knows a starter on D. He called today and told me this player was very supportive of coach D and reported that was the attitude of the team. Player's opinion, my kid reports, was that plays were well conceived and called but not executed. Full confidence in Coach.

I know this is sketchy without names. I know the "F@ck Manny, Fire Dorito" crowd will hate to hear this.

I also know that's what the kid heard and he is a lot closer to the program than most posters.

Go Canes

See this is my issue though....WHY ARE WE CALLING PLAYS THAT OUR PLAYERS CANT EXECUTE?

Eventually after it happens 12413952423 times someone has to realize that either a.) the scheme is too hard to understand b.) our players are just WAY dumber than every single other team (I highly doubt it is this) or c.) our coaches suck and aren't doing a good job of explaining/teaching the scheme to the guys....

Either way, something needs to change.

The players have the talent and smarts to execute it. It all comes down to trust and communications. This fanbase needs to stop insulting our players as if they are dumb.

 

[DaU83]

My kid is at the U. He is a sports fan, journalism type focus and knows a few kids on the team,

He knows a starter on D. He called today and told me this player was very supportive of coach D and reported that was the attitude of the team. Player's opinion, my kid reports, was that plays were well conceived and called but not executed. Full confidence in Coach.

I know this is sketchy without names. I know the "F@ck Manny, Fire Dorito" crowd will hate to hear this.

I also know that's what the kid heard and he is a lot closer to the program than most posters.

Go Canes

See this is my issue though....WHY ARE WE CALLING PLAYS THAT OUR PLAYERS CANT EXECUTE?

Eventually after it happens 12413952423 times someone has to realize that either a.) the scheme is too hard to understand b.) our players are just WAY dumber than every single other team (I highly doubt it is this) or c.) our coaches suck and aren't doing a good job of explaining/teaching the scheme to the guys....

Either way, something needs to change.

well they were able to do A and C at temple....

 

[Bigtip]

Al Golden and D'Onofrio suck

FIFY