Clemson making more moves into Dade

[OriginalGatorHater]

Anyone want to help me start a Super Synagogue to funnel Shabbat dinners and golden wrapped chocolate coins at Hanukkah time to the players?

You don’t even need to be ****** to join my Yid Palace. I’m open to all. Besides, I wreak enough Heeb to cover everyone here.

I have a guy that can get Shabbat catered by Oasis. Gotta keep it 100% the U!

 

[BloodEunsOrangeAndGreen]

This is where I get confused.

What is the benefit to donating the money through the church? Giving it straight to the players is also tax free so there is no reason to give it to the church first.

Could it be a tax write off? I know wealthy people donate so much money a year so they don’t have to give it to the government. I would think donating to a church would be considered a charitable donation.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

Could it be a tax write off? I know wealthy people donate so much money a year so they don’t have to give it to the government. I would think donating to a church would be considered a charitable donation.

It definitely would be a tax write off so that explains WHY they would donate to the church, but it doesn't explain how the church can get the money to the kids.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

add ladson

Artavis Scott, who wanted to be a Hurricane but u know, Golden.

 

[SWFLHurricane]

Anyone want to help me start a Super Synagogue to funnel Shabbat dinners and golden wrapped chocolate coins at Hanukkah time to the players?

You don’t even need to be ****** to join my Yid Palace. I’m open to all. Besides, I wreak enough Heeb to cover everyone here.

Can I trade my Dreidel in for X-tra Chocolate Coins??...or for atleast some Chocolate Ring Jell's...

 

[Fluffhead]

It definitely would be a tax write off so that explains WHY they would donate to the church, but it doesn't explain how the church can get the money to the kids.

It is a plausible defense to giving grants or donations to people in need. Churches do not have to file a form 990 like any other charity does, so there is also no public disclosure of a church’s donations to individuals.

 

[TheToadSage]

It definitely would be a tax write off so that explains WHY they would donate to the church, but it doesn't explain how the church can get the money to the kids.

Clemson back in the day would put money in a waterproof bag, hide it in the toilet for the player to pick it up at Mac's drive in. You know the famous Mac's that Todd Blackledge did his little eating segment for each college town. Coincidence Mac's made it on there? A church is ran like a business these days. You donate the money, they distribute to such and such, you have someone drop it off at a secure location.

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

It is a plausible defense to giving grants or donations to people in need. Churches do not have to file a form 990 like any other charity does, so there is also no public disclosure of a church’s donations to individuals.

From what I have read they are required to file detailed reports to the IRS though in order to get tax exemptions.

Are you saying they can literally do whatever they want with the money and still stay tax exempt?

 

[OriginalGatorHater]

Clemson back in the day would put money in a waterproof bag, hide it in the toilet for the player to pick it up at Mac's drive in. You know the famous Mac's that Todd Blackledge did his little eating segment for each college town. Coincidence Mac's made it on there? A church is ran like a business these days. You donate the money, they distribute to such and such, you have someone drop it off at a secure location.

I get that, my point is why get the church involved and put the money on books. Why not just keep it under the table. It seems much safer.

 

[Samson Doyo]

Clemson prob kicking a lil something up to Emmert. Guy is the biggest scumbag in sports. Why people rob banks is crazy to me. Just get involved with academia. It’s a license to steal. Education is the new religion. ******* kids(literally) gets you in trouble and that’s it. Anyone paying for liberal arts education is a sucker. Worthless. I feel better now. Enjoy your Sundays.

Go Canes!

 

[Fluffhead]

From what I have read they are required to file detailed reports to the IRS though in order to get tax exemptions.

Are you saying they can literally do whatever they want with the money and still stay tax exempt?

There are two different sides that I think we are talking about. To get a tax benefit for donating to a church (or any other charity), you get a receipt of confirmation that the IRS can request if you take a deduction on your income taxes. To get money from a church, I honestly do not know how it works.

My career is in tax work for tax exempt organizations. As far as I know, we do not have to give the IRS a list of people that receive support. However, I’d also imagine it is very, very easily manipulated if you are a crooked church.

 

[1mg of Epi]

It seems like Clemson must have some connections in the NCAA or I don't believe they would have gotten this far doing what they do.

They’re a school in the deep south

 

[1mg of Epi]

Not sure who brought it up on this board but Clemson’s connection to new spring church in the upstate of South Carolina and the money that is rumored to be funneled through the church to players would make them untouchable. Churches are a tax exempt business(some major scum of the earth take people’s faith and use it to turn a huge profit). They brainwash employees and the higher ups get more wealthy then athletes. You don’t have to pay taxes on your money then the feds will never get involved. What resources do you think that assistant coach is talking about. The former pastor was a huge Clemson fan. The timeline of the rise of that church and the rise of the Clemson program are almost spot on. Dabo is a huge advocate of faith and specifically New Spring and the players all attend the church. The writing is on the wall but only a select few know for sure 100% was going on. But if Dabo built a pay for player scheme through a tax exempt business it’s pretty ingenious.

That church scheme only handles the tax evasion component. It’s still illegal to pay a kid to choose your school. The adidas FBI case isn’t focused on taxes.

 

[gogeta4]

We have to find a way to beat these guys. They’re a much bigger threat then Bama.

i dont think so.

Their fan base isnt as rabid as Bama. Their run wont be as sustainable. They literally have NOTHING going on in that state other than Bama. They have unlimited funds...Bama legit will take Clemsons coach when Saban hangs it up.

As far as in the acc yes they are..but Clemson doesnt recruit s.fla too tough or like how Bama throws their weight around. Clemson is strategic.

 

[TheToadSage]

I get that, my point is why get the church involved and put the money on books. Why not just keep it under the table. It seems much safer.

What better way than to take a group of ppl who doesn't ask where their money is going and not be able to pinpoint any one person who is "allegedly" giving money to players? You have to convince a millionaire to donate, church takes all the money from 100 of thousands of ppl that easily donates. NewSpring has 8-10 campuses now in SC with thousands upon thousands of "owners" attending 2 services on each campus every Sunday. Even gamecock fans that attend in Columbia don't realize they are contributing to Clemson's football success LOL.

 

[PittsburghCane]

WRONG! Im going to give you pass and assume you haven’t been paying attention to Clem$on recruiting the past few years. The vast majority of Clemson starters are from other states. The trash on the roster is from SC.

Clemson commit FACTS:
6 of 17 2018 from SC
4 of 29 in 2019 from SC (3 lowest rated players all from SC)
1 in 2020 from SC (thus far)

What is factual is that Clemson is taking less and less from SC because they are paying for players from other states and winning.

I literally went to 247 and looked at each class 12-18. But do you.

 

[PittsburghCane]

WRONG! Im going to give you pass and assume you haven’t been paying attention to Clem$on recruiting the past few years. The vast majority of Clemson starters are from other states. The trash on the roster is from SC.

Clemson commit FACTS:
6 of 17 2018 from SC
4 of 29 in 2019 from SC (3 lowest rated players all from SC)
1 in 2020 from SC (thus far)

What is factual is that Clemson is taking less and less from SC because they are paying for players from other states and winning.

Literally the whole point was that they dominate their general vicinity and aren’t poaching SOFla like people say. But you thought it was in best interest to worry about SC players. K bud.

 

[786Cane]

i dont think so.

Their fan base isnt as rabid as Bama. Their run wont be as sustainable. They literally have NOTHING going on in that state other than Bama. They have unlimited funds...Bama legit will take Clemsons coach when Saban hangs it up.

As far as in the acc yes they are..but Clemson doesnt recruit s.fla too tough or like how Bama throws their weight around. Clemson is strategic.

Their (Clem$on) run will end when Sabag hangs it up and Dabo goes back home.
Kinda like when Butch left and we all know how that went.

 

[jjjrcanes]

The way I see it nobody gives a sht anymore unless it’s us. Recruiting scandals aren’t news anymore.
We have politicians on both sides still in office that have done some dirty sht.
Alabama getting dudes off of on gun and drug charges.
Running backs slapping the sht out of a girl but still getting drafted.
No one gives 2 shts anymore about some kids getting money to chose a school. The ncaa knows it and the fans know it cause we and everyone else talks about it.
Now that Miami upped the game at home with coaching, staff sizes, dorms, the ipf etc.. the bag schools have to spend even more to get the kids out of here.

There was an articles written about where the NCAA infractions committee goes once they retire or step down. Most goes back to the schools in the SEC! They get on their board committees and serve as protectors of their respected Colleges.

The NCAA is a Good ole boy connection. They all turn the cheek and there’s nothing to see here when one of their colleagues are accused of something. They all sware to secrecy.

Alabama is the bell cow to being untouchable when it comes to NCAA violations. Miami would never get away with the tiniest of infractions as Alabama comiits. It’s sad but true.

I wish I could find the article again because it really laid out the facts about the difference in how the NCAA met out punishment. And it did make a real concerning statement why MIAMI gets scrutinize more harshly than most , it plainly said we are looked at as more of an inner City program. Another words black college. And the only way to get at UM for the past beatings and embarrassment MIAMI inflicted on their GOB programs is to go harsh with punishment for the slightest infraction.

The article also made it clear that though UM sit in one of the safest and beautiful part of the country, the misconception continues due to the hate that people have for this program.

I’m glad we have a coach that gets this about how people feel about us. We will always be hated no matter what. Trying to pander to the masses is only wasting our time. Coaches and Athletic Director that don’t understand this only set us back by trying to make UM fit in and try to change the thought pattern of how people view us.

Diaz is going to set the record straight to don’t give a dam but about this “U”!

 

[jurrea29]

Not sure who brought it up on this board but Clemson’s connection to new spring church in the upstate of South Carolina and the money that is rumored to be funneled through the church to players would make them untouchable. Churches are a tax exempt business(some major scum of the earth take people’s faith and use it to turn a huge profit). They brainwash employees and the higher ups get more wealthy then athletes. You don’t have to pay taxes on your money then the feds will never get involved. What resources do you think that assistant coach is talking about. The former pastor was a huge Clemson fan. The timeline of the rise of that church and the rise of the Clemson program are almost spot on. Dabo is a huge advocate of faith and specifically New Spring and the players all attend the church. The writing is on the wall but only a select few know for sure 100% was going on. But if Dabo built a pay for player scheme through a tax exempt business it’s pretty ingenious.

So basically Clemson is coping what Uncle Luke did back in the 80's with Father Leo. Again UM was ahead of it's time