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CB Emmanuel Karnley commits to Miami

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CIS rule:

If the CIS gurus aka the guys who coach and evaluate from their couch doesn’t like a player, the player will be good for us.

If the CIS gurus aka the guys who coach and evaluate from their couch do like a player, the player won’t be good.

Examples: Tyler Baron and Meesh Powell
 
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DMoney said:
Here’s what I’ll say on this one:

I haven’t seen Karnley play a game, just like 98% of the people in this thread. And I certainly haven’t seen the coach’s tape. Those that have rate Karnley highly (he’s the #6 CB in the Portal), but that’s only their opinion.

Let’s watch the guy play extended snaps at Miami before we start a narrative. The negative, uninformed BS doesn’t do anyone any good.

DJ Ivey is a perfect example. He had a bad mental mistake against Georgia Tech and the narrative began that he stunk. He heard the noise, his confidence sank, and it began to affect his performance.

I saw him on Greentree and said he was an NFL corner. People treated me like I was insane. They said he wasn’t even FBS. Of course, he is now an NFL corner.

The coaches and Ivey himself deserve blame for him not performing to his talent at Miami. But the noise didn’t help, and it was especially unfair to a kid who worked harder than anyone and loved the Canes.

I don’t know if Karnley will follow in Ivey’s footsteps as an NFL corner. But I sure don’t want a repeat of that experience. Let’s watch the guy actually play extended snaps before telling the story of his career.
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👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾 Selling his potential based upon his measurables is one thing and who can really dismiss that but selling based upon his film that’s there, nah brah I don’t care what the “professionals” say. I know what my eyes 👀 saw.
DMoney said:
I ask this honestly and not being defensive: have you seen him play? I haven't, and I doubt many others have either.

That doesn't mean he'll be good. I didn't see Terry Roberts play before he came here and stunk. But I wonder how much (earned) distrust of our DB evals is driving this reaction.

And if people distrust our DB evals, which is understandable, do they trust Ole Miss? I've seen a lot of people saying we should be more like them.
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Yes, I saw some of the Kansas State, Utah (I'm a fan of KW), Colorado (for obvious reasons-Heisman battle) and Arizona State and he was underwhelming. For me, It seems like wash, rinse, repeat. Go after the Tony Grimes type (proven commodity) or a D Ponds type (young but showed he can handle the fire) with plenty of talent in the middle. I don't base my analysis/comments on other teams targets so I don't compare UM to other programs (Ole Miss, etc) just on filling our needs with players that can actually play the position.

I don't make comments based upon others (as demonstrated by my post count), I make them based upon my own assessment and experience. I played football-WR and baseball @Miami Central and in college years ago. Coached some too so there's that, like a lot of cats on the site, so not grandstanding.

Again D$, look at our track record with DB's, it's atrocious and they seems to all come out of barrels looking like this. It's DB (and WR) talent in the portal but we struggle mightily in these areas. We are actually sitting home getting ready to watch the playoffs after having the #1 offense and a Heisman trophy candidate because of the lack of DB play (among others) and it seems the staff has learned nothing.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Guess again.
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JayCane20 said:
For the record, I watched about 250 of his 380+ snaps from TV copies.

Probably saw about 50 more but couldn’t see enough due to camera.

My opinion is far from uninformed or guessing from some twitter clip. Im not DB guru but I feel pretty confident he’s a) not good and b) not going to get good coaching that he’ll need to reach this “ceiling” he supposedly has from the coaches currently in this program.
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Just being 6’3 running a 10.6 would’ve helped against Cuse on all those jump balls but yea I agree with u
 
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DrNovaCane said:

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👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾 Selling his potential based upon his measurables is one thing and who can really dismiss that but selling based upon his film that’s there, nah brah I don’t care what the “professionals” say. I know what my eyes 👀 saw.

Yes, I saw some of the Kansas State, Utah (I'm a fan of KW), Colorado (for obvious reasons-Heisman battle) and Arizona State and he was underwhelming. For me, It seems like wash, rinse, repeat. Go after the Tony Grimes type (proven commodity) or a D Ponds type (young but showed he can handle the fire) with plenty of talent in the middle. I don't base my analysis/comments on other teams targets so I don't compare UM to other programs (Ole Miss, etc) just on filling our needs with players that can actually play the position.

I don't make comments based upon others (as demonstrated by my post count), I make them based upon my own assessment and experience. I played football-WR and baseball @Miami Central and in college years ago. Coached some too so there's that, like a lot of cats on the site, so not grandstanding.

Again D$, look at our track record with DB's, it's atrocious and they seems to all come out of barrels looking like this. It's DB (and WR) talent in the portal but we struggle mightily in these areas. We are actually sitting home getting ready to watch the playoffs after having the #1 offense and a Heisman trophy candidate because of the lack of DB play (among others) and it seems the staff has learned nothing.
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Do you like Brantley and Poyser?
Do you like O'Conner?
Do you like Xavier Lucas?
 
DMoney said:
Here’s what I’ll say on this one:

I haven’t seen Karnley play a game, just like 98% of the people in this thread. And I certainly haven’t seen the coach’s tape. Those that have rate Karnley highly (he’s the #6 CB in the Portal), but that’s only their opinion.

Let’s watch the guy play extended snaps at Miami before we start a narrative. The negative, uninformed BS doesn’t do anyone any good.

DJ Ivey is a perfect example. He had a bad mental mistake against Georgia Tech and the narrative began that he stunk. He heard the noise, his confidence sank, and it began to affect his performance.

I saw him on Greentree and said he was an NFL corner. People treated me like I was insane. They said he wasn’t even FBS. Of course, he is now an NFL corner.

The coaches and Ivey himself deserve blame for him not performing to his talent at Miami. But the noise didn’t help, and it was especially unfair to a kid who worked harder than anyone and loved the Canes.

I don’t know if Karnley will follow in Ivey’s footsteps as an NFL corner. But I sure don’t want a repeat of that experience. Let’s watch the guy actually play extended snaps before telling the story of his career.
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I respectfully disagree with the DJ Ivey spin on this one - Ivey didn’t magically become mentally tough. He wasn’t performing on the field, was being booed and it hurts to be booed - but that’s what he signed up for when he decided his career would be in intercollegiate and professional athletics.

Let’s not train, or begin sending this message to our young people that they deserve to be praised for their achievements and bright moments but are being unfairly criticized when they “repeatedly” fail to meet the mark.

This is a game, and guys (Ivey/Karnley/whomever) completely understand what they’re signing up for - not to mention that they now are being paid to do it (I for one ABSOLUTELY agree that they should be paid)….BUT, when you don’t get it done on the field and repeatedly cost the team with your play, you WILL most definitely hear it the same way from the opposite spectrum as you’d hear it if you’re out there making plays and helping the team win games.
 
DMoney said:
Miami added length and speed to its secondary with the commitment of Arizona transfer CB Emmanuel “Manny” Karnley.

The 6’2 185-pound redshirt freshman from Antioch, CA has been timed as fast as 21 MPH, and secured 16 tackles and 5 PBUs in 369 snaps.



Karnley is one of the most coveted corners in the Portal, ranking #6 overall with a four-star rating. He chose Miami over Michigan and Ole Miss and has three years of eligibility remaining.

The Canes will continue to be aggressive in completely overhauling their secondary, and I expect several more additions with length and speed.

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So we still think Lucas comes here? Crazy this is taking so long. Is whisky really trying to scream tampering
 
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So is this the time we all bash our commits no matter what and the crew of wanna be talent scouts, street agents and high school coaches show up and criticize the kid? Just checking! He sucks! 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
DMoney said:
Here’s what I’ll say on this one:

I haven’t seen Karnley play a game, just like 98% of the people in this thread. And I certainly haven’t seen the coach’s tape. Those that have rate Karnley highly (he’s the #6 CB in the Portal), but that’s only their opinion.

Let’s watch the guy play extended snaps at Miami before we start a narrative. The negative, uninformed BS doesn’t do anyone any good.

DJ Ivey is a perfect example. He had a bad mental mistake against Georgia Tech and the narrative began that he stunk. He heard the noise, his confidence sank, and it began to affect his performance.

I saw him on Greentree and said he was an NFL corner. People treated me like I was insane. They said he wasn’t even FBS. Of course, he is now an NFL corner.

The coaches and Ivey himself deserve blame for him not performing to his talent at Miami. But the noise didn’t help, and it was especially unfair to a kid who worked harder than anyone and loved the Canes.

I don’t know if Karnley will follow in Ivey’s footsteps as an NFL corner. But I sure don’t want a repeat of that experience. Let’s watch the guy actually play extended snaps before telling the story of his career.
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This post is nastyyyyyyyyyyy lmao
 
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