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OP give it up. Even former players are saying the scheme sucks. And the current ones step on the field every week knowing the schemes they're asked to run don't have a chance.
 
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CaneShake said:
You do not give up 350 rushing yards to duke period
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And the crazy part is they did it running one play. Read option and we could not stop it or get out of that silly *** base formation to defend it. But dont worry coach D will just blame the players for it. Sound familiar. (Cough cough Randy)
 
There is no question our talent level is pretty weak, and the depth is all very young. But we have a MASSIVE problem on this defense. We need to CLEAN HOUSE. Its not just the DC, it goes deeper. We need to make some chances at position coaches too. No question our talent on D is bad, but there is no excuse for letting Duke blow you out by 48 points. This defense has totally collapsed.

Golden needs to bring in the best DC he can afford, and hopefully the AD will open up the check book. If he's wedded to the 3-4, fine, then bring in a 3-4 guy, but let him run it HIS way. We need a total overhaul on Defense.
 
ristwasdown said:
Got this a few weeks ago, who it came from doesn't matter and the name(s) won't be said. Since there are 30 real people on this board I give zero ****s.

ENJOY

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More on Duke | Nov 4th


His surgery was today, I'll get a read out from sources later but here's a big chunk on Duke. But I had a long talk with someone close to him today and wanted to let you guys go behind the veil.


He actually wanted to leave Miami at several points and times last year. He's been very frustrated with the coaches during his tenure here and he's had people in his ear trying to keep him level headed and focused on the bigger prize. He's often had to take up for himself and less talented teammates. A text came in recently from Duke saying "I hate these F*(^*ing coaches" to a mentor. There's a lot going on behind the scenes.


To give you an example of the kind of thing he's gone through (all facts, no embellishing) here's a story:


Duke was injured because of blocking on a reverse earlier this year and Golden called him out in front of the whole team saying 'who told you to block like that?' Duke just looked at AG and was thinking to himself that that's the way the coaches at Miami instructed him to block. Golden then went on to say that Duke was always getting hurt and couldn't stay on the field. Right after that, Duke fired off the text above.


Duke's handlers had to continue to monitor his emotions all last season as he phoned numerous times about being very unhappy. The sense I'm continually getting is that Miami coaches have trouble connecting with certain players and treating them a bit harsh. Some may say it's football, but when your star player is saying he wants to transfer to West Virginia, that should be cause for concern. The south Florida athlete is a different kind of guy and I've seen that with my involvement and covering youth football.


Duke stayed on and just fought through stuff. He's being reminded about the bigger picture and he's definitely gone after next season, don't even think about him staying, it's confirmed. He's already tracking his draft status. He's telling people close to him that he's projected late first early second in the 2015 draft right now (pre-injury). He's determined to come back bigger, faster and stronger.


Ereck Flowers is also gone after this year. He really hates Miami. He doesn't want to even do media. He's on the first train smoking after his junior year.


I'll have more later but it's disheartening to hear some of this stuff, but I knew this was going on. Tracy Howard got into a major spat with Coach D'Onofrio last year and it kinda got viral. I learned about it and posted it hear. I now that Tracy does things like wave his hand at D'Onofrio when the coach tells him things. That's why after the two pick game Tracy had, D'Onofrio went out of his way to rip Tracy for other errors in the game, tackling. I knew there were back stories and didn't write about it. It's public knowledge they don't get along behind close doors but none of them will talk about it. It's a 'locker room' thing.


But expect Tracy to bolt also. If Miami doesn't win a championship, either ACC or BCS (or whatever the new title will be called) it will possibly be tough for a few years until the coffers are filled again because last years freshman class (2013) is disgruntled. It starts with the leaders, so it's likely a wide spread concern.


If you're calling out Duke Johnson, imagine what a fourth year walk on is treated like.
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read this and go **** yourself
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Poor babies! I played college football, that ain't **** and that stuff happens in every locker room. Some players hate the coaches and some love them. This isn't news. The players loved Coker though. This is the same **** we heard about Shannon and his staff. Next
 
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CaneSB said:
ristwasdown said:
Got this a few weeks ago, who it came from doesn't matter and the name(s) won't be said. Since there are 30 real people on this board I give zero ****s.

ENJOY

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More on Duke | Nov 4th


His surgery was today, I'll get a read out from sources later but here's a big chunk on Duke. But I had a long talk with someone close to him today and wanted to let you guys go behind the veil.


He actually wanted to leave Miami at several points and times last year. He's been very frustrated with the coaches during his tenure here and he's had people in his ear trying to keep him level headed and focused on the bigger prize. He's often had to take up for himself and less talented teammates. A text came in recently from Duke saying "I hate these F*(^*ing coaches" to a mentor. There's a lot going on behind the scenes.


To give you an example of the kind of thing he's gone through (all facts, no embellishing) here's a story:


Duke was injured because of blocking on a reverse earlier this year and Golden called him out in front of the whole team saying 'who told you to block like that?' Duke just looked at AG and was thinking to himself that that's the way the coaches at Miami instructed him to block. Golden then went on to say that Duke was always getting hurt and couldn't stay on the field. Right after that, Duke fired off the text above.


Duke's handlers had to continue to monitor his emotions all last season as he phoned numerous times about being very unhappy. The sense I'm continually getting is that Miami coaches have trouble connecting with certain players and treating them a bit harsh. Some may say it's football, but when your star player is saying he wants to transfer to West Virginia, that should be cause for concern. The south Florida athlete is a different kind of guy and I've seen that with my involvement and covering youth football.


Duke stayed on and just fought through stuff. He's being reminded about the bigger picture and he's definitely gone after next season, don't even think about him staying, it's confirmed. He's already tracking his draft status. He's telling people close to him that he's projected late first early second in the 2015 draft right now (pre-injury). He's determined to come back bigger, faster and stronger.


Ereck Flowers is also gone after this year. He really hates Miami. He doesn't want to even do media. He's on the first train smoking after his junior year.


I'll have more later but it's disheartening to hear some of this stuff, but I knew this was going on. Tracy Howard got into a major spat with Coach D'Onofrio last year and it kinda got viral. I learned about it and posted it hear. I now that Tracy does things like wave his hand at D'Onofrio when the coach tells him things. That's why after the two pick game Tracy had, D'Onofrio went out of his way to rip Tracy for other errors in the game, tackling. I knew there were back stories and didn't write about it. It's public knowledge they don't get along behind close doors but none of them will talk about it. It's a 'locker room' thing.


But expect Tracy to bolt also. If Miami doesn't win a championship, either ACC or BCS (or whatever the new title will be called) it will possibly be tough for a few years until the coffers are filled again because last years freshman class (2013) is disgruntled. It starts with the leaders, so it's likely a wide spread concern.


If you're calling out Duke Johnson, imagine what a fourth year walk on is treated like.
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read this and go **** yourself
Click to expand...

Poor babies! I played college football, that ain't **** and that stuff happens in every locker room. Some players hate the coaches and some love them. This isn't news. The players loved Coker though. This is the same **** we heard about Shannon and his staff. Next
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I also played college football. Where did you play?

and you couple an inept coaching staff with players who don't care about losing and you get our dumpster fire.
 
well, it starts with the guy thats been preaching process...when the process works its all good...three games later its not all #17 as easy as that may have been to say at fsu...we have seen some of the ****tiest d over this forgetfull decade but today, well its clear that the process on d is arguably the worst ever...go pluck any d cordinator from s. fla and now these kids would play with passion...the process is broken on at least one side, maybe both...if golden cant make the changes he will be gone after next yr, two at the most if he keeps his boy...talk works for a while..shannon couldnt diversify his man press and or get the talent evened out...stubburness leads to 50 points to duke after two losses
 
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ristwasdown said:
CaneSB said:
ristwasdown said:
Got this a few weeks ago, who it came from doesn't matter and the name(s) won't be said. Since there are 30 real people on this board I give zero ****s.

ENJOY

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More on Duke | Nov 4th


His surgery was today, I'll get a read out from sources later but here's a big chunk on Duke. But I had a long talk with someone close to him today and wanted to let you guys go behind the veil.


He actually wanted to leave Miami at several points and times last year. He's been very frustrated with the coaches during his tenure here and he's had people in his ear trying to keep him level headed and focused on the bigger prize. He's often had to take up for himself and less talented teammates. A text came in recently from Duke saying "I hate these F*(^*ing coaches" to a mentor. There's a lot going on behind the scenes.


To give you an example of the kind of thing he's gone through (all facts, no embellishing) here's a story:


Duke was injured because of blocking on a reverse earlier this year and Golden called him out in front of the whole team saying 'who told you to block like that?' Duke just looked at AG and was thinking to himself that that's the way the coaches at Miami instructed him to block. Golden then went on to say that Duke was always getting hurt and couldn't stay on the field. Right after that, Duke fired off the text above.


Duke's handlers had to continue to monitor his emotions all last season as he phoned numerous times about being very unhappy. The sense I'm continually getting is that Miami coaches have trouble connecting with certain players and treating them a bit harsh. Some may say it's football, but when your star player is saying he wants to transfer to West Virginia, that should be cause for concern. The south Florida athlete is a different kind of guy and I've seen that with my involvement and covering youth football.


Duke stayed on and just fought through stuff. He's being reminded about the bigger picture and he's definitely gone after next season, don't even think about him staying, it's confirmed. He's already tracking his draft status. He's telling people close to him that he's projected late first early second in the 2015 draft right now (pre-injury). He's determined to come back bigger, faster and stronger.


Ereck Flowers is also gone after this year. He really hates Miami. He doesn't want to even do media. He's on the first train smoking after his junior year.


I'll have more later but it's disheartening to hear some of this stuff, but I knew this was going on. Tracy Howard got into a major spat with Coach D'Onofrio last year and it kinda got viral. I learned about it and posted it hear. I now that Tracy does things like wave his hand at D'Onofrio when the coach tells him things. That's why after the two pick game Tracy had, D'Onofrio went out of his way to rip Tracy for other errors in the game, tackling. I knew there were back stories and didn't write about it. It's public knowledge they don't get along behind close doors but none of them will talk about it. It's a 'locker room' thing.


But expect Tracy to bolt also. If Miami doesn't win a championship, either ACC or BCS (or whatever the new title will be called) it will possibly be tough for a few years until the coffers are filled again because last years freshman class (2013) is disgruntled. It starts with the leaders, so it's likely a wide spread concern.


If you're calling out Duke Johnson, imagine what a fourth year walk on is treated like.
Click to expand...

read this and go **** yourself
Click to expand...

Poor babies! I played college football, that ain't **** and that stuff happens in every locker room. Some players hate the coaches and some love them. This isn't news. The players loved Coker though. This is the same **** we heard about Shannon and his staff. Next
Click to expand...

I also played college football. Where did you play?

and you couple an inept coaching staff with players who don't care about losing and you get our dumpster fire.
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University of Florida
 
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fastcane said:
If you want to blame them for poor recruiting on the Defense and part of the offense I can see. I have to give them a break for that too, with the NCAA on their backs for the past 3 years. But blaming the for not being good game day coaches seems kind of funny. I wouldn't draft one of those kids on defense, not one. Maybe some of the freshman will be a little better and the new class looks good but there just isn't much talent on this defense. They can't tackle or cover unless it's someone who is much less talented than them. We have one great player on the whole team and he's out. A few real good players, and maybe some young possibilities, it is what it is.
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So now the barometer of a good defense is how many NFLers we have? Since when do we have to have NFLers to have a decent defense? Or a top 60 defense?
 
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OP is the type that walks in on his woman getting plunged in the *** and then rationalizes it in his head that something else happened. Buddy, we have given up 40 or more in three straight games, and we are in year 3 of this scheme. Just really think about that for a second. That is before you breakdown the fact that two of those teams have no business doing that to a Miami defense. Dook, that's right doooooook ran for 300 today. When that happens it's not just the players even if you believe that nonsense........
 
If giving up 500 yards to Duke 1,600 yards in three games and failing in two games with the ACC championship on the line doesn't get you fired what ******* does?
 
Seriously all you ****ers trying to support this guy are on PCP. There is. Nothing to support there is no ******* way before or ever that Duke's starting Oline had more talent that our D line EVER. This guy just coached them poorly, schemes poorly, gets the plays in late and does everything wrong because the defensive players like Tracy almost ******* transferred. The only way this **** stays on is if Golden values friendship more than victory. period. Ill fight anyone that thinks this guy is worthy of coaching a D1 team.
 
I'm not saying I love the schemes, but they worked better for the first 7 games. When we moved up to more talented teams that could throw the ball we were done. Backers can't stick with anyone either can the D backs and neither of them seem to be able to tackle worth a crap. The D line is absolutely horrible against the pass, not sure I'm blaming that all on the coaches. The D line did alright against weak teams, now they are just about useless against a little better than average team. We need better talent. When we played lessor talent the schemes worked alright when our D line was giving the QB a hard time. If you can't get to the QB in a reasonable time you will get eaten up.



Fear The Tie said:
OP give it up. Even former players are saying the scheme sucks. And the current ones step on the field every week knowing the schemes they're asked to run don't have a chance.
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