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Article: NCAA Charges Miami With Lack of Institutional Control

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NCAA treats large state schools different than how it treats smaller private schools like USC and Miami. Big state schools have much more pull.
 
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There is no precedence for two self-imposed bowl bans and a league championship game either. Miami cooperated fully and the NCAA still went out of their way to punish the school more. There's no incentive for anyone to cooperate in the future. I still can't get over that Shapiro saying it twice made it true.
 
Chuckles said:
I'm sorry but did you really mean to say NYT is an EXEMPTION to media almost never publishing full stories with the full set of facts? Did you really mean to go there?!
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I was more so trying distinguish between a legitimate media outlet like the NYT/WSJ from a mill like Yahoo. Those publications aren't without their own shortcomings, too.
 
jakeman1 said:
There is no precedence for two self-imposed bowl bans and a league championship game either. Miami cooperated fully and the NCAA still went out of their way to punish the school more. There's no incentive for anyone to cooperate in the future. I still can't get over that Shapiro saying it twice made it true.
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Shapiro saying it twice made it true. Shapiro saying it twice made it true.
 
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Just to add something to the USC/UM conspiracy theory is that imho these are the two programs that have the highest ceilings in CFB. They sit in glamorous cities located in fantastic talent pools. If either school gets an outstanding HC then I think the $EC has a hard time beating them. Unless of course the $EC is using PEDs like m&m's so that Alabama RB's got legs that look like most other teams' DT's legs. but maybe they just spend more time in the weight room? Yeah, that's it. They're that more dedicated than everybody else.
 
jakeman1 said:
There is no precedence for two self-imposed bowl bans and a league championship game either. Miami cooperated fully and the NCAA still went out of their way to punish the school more. There's no incentive for anyone to cooperate in the future. I still can't get over that Shapiro saying it twice made it true.
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That's the part that just boggles the mind. Whomever approved of these procedures is the funniest thing I have ever heard. It's almost as if the NCAA was balking that the school would just lay down and take it and hope that this would blow over. Whoops.
 
PUNCICANE said:
WBGintheRED said:
UMcanesfan420 said:
WBGintheRED said:
kadeem111 said:
I think the NCAA will be shocked at the public outcry. This is more about college athletics and less about Miami specifically. I'm confident Shalala will have good lawyers in place. Does anybody think that the NCAA will say no more bowl bans but significant scholarship reductions.
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i originally thought we lose 18-21 scholly's I am down to 6-9 after recent events
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Donna demanded nothing more. It's pretty unprecedented. She has to have the goods on them or else I can't see her going hard like that.
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first rule of business is never accept the first offer...donna asked for time serving just to get the ball rolling no way we don't settle if they NCAA ask us for 6 scholarships right now
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agreed

and the NCAA wont just roll over, that would set a precedence that they cant afford that. They will require UM to make some concessions, hopefully very minimal ones, but they will not just say "ok Donna, we're done"
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The fact that the penalties already imposed were self-imposed doesn't mean we haven't been penalized. In addition, the unprecedented length of this corrupt investigation has done immeasurable damage to our program and corches on the recruiting front. How much time do you think Alshermond has had to spend battling this whole fake ordeal? That's clearly a punishment.

There have been many cases over the years involving issues more important than this (murder, rape, etc.) where the defendant has been released due to a corrupt investigation or prosecutorial/judicial malfeasance. Instead of looking at this as UM needing to suffer more to appease a corrupt judge/jury, you folks should be looking at this as UM has suffered far more than enough already based upon the clearly corrupt tactics and motivations of the prosecutor/judge/jury in this case.

The NCAA has sought to kill UM with its knife of corruption. President Shalala's scalpel of righteousness will rescue UM.
 
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I have been reading the posts here and I am not sure if this has been mentioned, but in the LOA they mentioned "Lack of instutional control." Then reading the 4 letter network they said the NCAA handed that out because they believe coaches lied. I thought the NCAA was trying to target the individuals, not necessarily the schools, for offenses they commit. Well I find this interesting because they went against what they said they were going to start doing. The other interesting point that was stated on that ticker was the word "believe." We believe the coaches lied, lol! So where is your proof??? Sounds like another way to cover their asses because the NCAA is now starting to look like a bunch of asses who don't do their homework.
 
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Roscoe26 said:
I have been reading the posts here and I am not sure if this has been mentioned, but in the LOA they mentioned "Lack of instutional control." Then reading the 4 letter network they said the NCAA handed that out because they believe coaches lied. I thought the NCAA was trying to target the individuals, not necessarily the schools, for offenses they commit. Well I find this interesting because they went against what they said they were going to start doing. The other interesting point that was stated on that ticker was the word "believe." We believe the coaches lied, lol! So where is your proof??? Sounds like another way to cover their asses because the NCAA is now starting to look like a bunch of asses who don't do their homework.
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When the prosecutor/judge/jury (ncaa) are corrupt it's impossible to trust anything that they do.
 
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bolomite21 said:
I don't think PUNICANE is nuts, just look at the extreme these people went to bury us. They put their jobs and the NCAA's integrity on the line to try to destroy Miami. Meanwhile the $EC gets away with far worse things then we ever committed. Problem is if they investigate one SEC school, then they gotta do them all. Thats one big can of worms.
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So open the can of worms and let the threat of sanctions hang over the SEC for a ridic amount of time for multiple recruiting cycles like us...I could give two bigs ***** how long it would take or how big the can
 
stormsurge said:
Just to add something to the USC/UM conspiracy theory is that imho these are the two programs that have the highest ceilings in CFB. They sit in glamorous cities located in fantastic talent pools. If either school gets an outstanding HC then I think the $EC has a hard time beating them. Unless of course the $EC is using PEDs like m&m's so that Alabama RB's got legs that look like most other teams' DT's legs. but maybe they just spend more time in the weight room? Yeah, that's it. They're that more dedicated than everybody else.
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I think everybody who knows something is scared as **** of the guy at the helm in Coral Gables
 
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