Al Golden Press Conference 8/28

[Canething]

My take away from this press conference is that Golden seems very relaxed. Maybe , just maybe he knows this team is real solid and way underrated by the national media. Monday night will be a very good indicator of what we have.

 

[sebastian91]

Revisionists? UF did suck. They were a 4-8 team that lost to an FCS team who did not even complete a pass in the game. I don't think you know what the word "revisionist" means. Beating a 4-8 UF team is not "winning big." And it doesn't mean anything when you blow multiple chances to win your side of the ACC, AGAIN.

That whole word salad is nice, but it doesn't explain why I'm supposed to think a guy who has fielded the worst D's in UM history, regularly gets beat down against good teams, and cannot beat teams with 8 or more wins is going to win big here.

Believe what you want. I don't disagree that AG needs to start showing the improvement on the field, but it's stupid to say that we beat a 4-8 U*** team. They were highly ranked when we beat them. They were never the same after we beat them. Perhaps their season takes on a completely different trajectory if they beat us and Driskell makes it through the game uninjured. So, yes, there's some 'revisionist history' in your points as well.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

Revisionists? UF did suck. They were a 4-8 team that lost to an FCS team who did not even complete a pass in the game. I don't think you know what the word "revisionist" means. Beating a 4-8 UF team is not "winning big." And it doesn't mean anything when you blow multiple chances to win your side of the ACC, AGAIN.

That whole word salad is nice, but it doesn't explain why I'm supposed to think a guy who has fielded the worst D's in UM history, regularly gets beat down against good teams, and cannot beat teams with 8 or more wins is going to win big here.

Believe what you want. I don't disagree that AG needs to start showing the improvement on the field, but it's stupid to say that we beat a 4-8 U*** team. They were highly ranked when we beat them. They were never the same after we beat them. Perhaps their season takes on a completely different trajectory if they beat us and Driskell makes it through the game uninjured. So, yes, there's some 'revisionist history' in your points as well.

Losing Easley is what really killed them. That dude was a force. They had multiple other injuries to key starters as well. For all those who cry about our defense, Florida brought in one of the best defenses in the country to our house last year and still lost.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

My take away from this press conference is that Golden seems very relaxed. Maybe , just maybe he knows this team is real solid and way underrated by the national media. Monday night will be a very good indicator of what we have.

He's been praising the team all camp. It's been kinda weird. He's very happy with what we have right now, and so am I.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

I'll tell you one thing. Al looks more relaxed than he's ever looked here. Hopefully, that means he thinks he's got something special brewing this season.

That's what he's told the admin and they believe him. They also recognize he has been recruiting at an elite level since 2012 and much better than Randy Shannon in any way including his 2008 class. They feel that with the talent he has brought in, wins should be more convincing, but they're giving him some leeway with that. The, "vibe," around the season and program as a whole is very positive from the admin's perspective. They expect major success this year and while angry are grateful that he wasn't offered the job from Penn State.

Whoever said he is without question here until 2019 is beyond wrong. The admin expects results now.

 

[Fountain of Canes]

Why do people think Choc doing kick returns Golden said ST. Not KR. He probably blocking and playing punt team.

 

[JHallCanes]

Far be it from me to break this up but is there a more overlooked guy than Trent Harris right now? He took a backseat to Chad Thomas during recruitment (understandable) and all he has done is come in early and now battling for honest minutes against two of our best pass rushers that have been in the program longer.

pretty ******* awesome

 

[JHallCanes]

I detest Shannon as a coach but at least Randy never left us hanging right before signing day while he was out trying to find another job

context is everything. UM knew about the investigation before it hired Golden and it chose not to tell Golden about it when it interviewed and hired Golden. They royally screwed him without any lube, hence why they extended his contract through 2019 or so (if not later). so when his alma mater came flirting, he probably felt ZERO loyalty to his employer and went awol while he hoped he would get an offer that apparently never came.

A point I left out of this post but I have brought up in the past. Not really a situation where you want to have two wrongs make a right, but still a point

 

[losdogcane]

It's not a matter of "if" Al Golden wins a National Championship at Miami, but WHEN!!!

All you need to know is that he won at TEMPLE.
HE WON AT ******* TEMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[rudebuddha]

I detest Shannon as a coach but at least Randy never left us hanging right before signing day while he was out trying to find another job

context is everything. UM knew about the investigation before it hired Golden and it chose not to tell Golden about it when it interviewed and hired Golden. They royally screwed him without any lube, hence why they extended his contract through 2019 or so (if not later). so when his alma mater came flirting, he probably felt ZERO loyalty to his employer and went awol while he hoped he would get an offer that apparently never came.

Went AWOL?

He was on vacation when rumors started flying, and within 48 hours he held a press conference and said he's a Cane for the long haul.

 

[kennesaw_cane]

No disrespect, weownfsu, but did you not see how many injuries UF had last season? When we played them they were a very competitive and good team. Their injuries snowballed out of control as they lost an enormous amount of their starters and 2 deep. Hence the reason most polls have them rated higher than us coming of a 4-8 season. Even with Driskell as QB.

He's recruited about the same. Golden couldn't even recruit over guys like AJ Highsmith, Kacy Rodgers, Jimmy Gaines, or Shayon Greene, so cool it with the "AG has recruited better" stuff. It's not backed up by fact.

Going into Randy's fourth year, UM was a top 12 team with a positive outlook for the season. We're unranked right now going into Golden's fourth year. I like some things Golden has done this offseason, particularly recruiting, but the "vibe" stuff is revisionist history.

What's revisionist is you, and people like you, speaking about Golden's tenure as if it was an ideal situation.
Shannon left this program in a dumpster, and his ignorance and sheer stupidity almost caused this program to cease to exist.

We were a laughingstock in college football, and an NFL joke when Golden took over. We were also pretty much shut out of the best recruiting area in the country thanks to Shannon's myopia.

The reason Golden has great national respect amongst his peers, even if a few local morons belittle him, is because he has done quite a bit with very little, in the worst imaginable situation for a head coach.

1, the bolded is horrendously wrong because it was Shannon that tried his best to get Nevin out of the program. He even threatened to suspend players and fire coaches if he caught them associating with Shapiro.

Two, my post has nothing to do with whether Golden inherited an "ideal" situation. That's nothing but a red herring by you. I pointed out that Golden has done basically the same thing as Shannon so far, and there's no reason to assume that Golden will "win big" yet. That's it. You guys constantly bring up all this other BS to make excuses for Golden, but none of that explains why we should assume that Golden is going to win big.

Golden has done the exact opposite of Shannon.
Shannon alienated ever high school coach, except it seems a few whom he knew from his hood.
Golden has successfully rebuilt those bridges Shannon burned.

Shannon's idea of training and diet led us to being laughed at by NFL guys like Alonzo Highsmith.
Golden's S & C program and emphasis on good diet versus Shannon's KFC training table, has NFL personnel looking at Miami as a scouting destination again, instead of a vacation spot.

The reason Golden will win very big here is pretty evident when you look at the players.
Look at our 2nd, 3rd and 4th year players.
They have all gotten better each year.
We don't have any bad apples, ala Ray Ray, anymore. Our best players seem to be our hardest workers, and that speaks to, not just individual, but team character.
When everyone on your 2 deep is talented, has worked as hard as possible for self and team improvement, has studied to thoroughly grasp the play book, and most importantly are all pulling on the same oar, then you have a very dangerous team.

The haters always say, "Well, win big and then we will see."
Last year we beat a ranked Gator team, now the revisionists, like yourself, say they sucked.
At the time we beat them they were a top 20 team.

Seems like you guys are only looking for the negatives, while the positives are all around.


Here's a positive you all forget.

Golden is locked into Miami for the long haul. Hate all you want, but he isn't going anywhere for the next 5 years.

Revisionists? UF did suck. They were a 4-8 team that lost to an FCS team who did not even complete a pass in the game. I don't think you know what the word "revisionist" means. Beating a 4-8 UF team is not "winning big." And it doesn't mean anything when you blow multiple chances to win your side of the ACC, AGAIN.

That whole word salad is nice, but it doesn't explain why I'm supposed to think a guy who has fielded the worst D's in UM history, regularly gets beat down against good teams, and cannot beat teams with 8 or more wins is going to win big here.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

It's not a matter of "if" Al Golden wins a National Championship at Miami, but WHEN!!!

All you need to know is that he won at TEMPLE.
HE WON AT ******* TEMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus. Is this sarcasm?

Go back and look at the opponents he beat at Temple over that now infamous 9 win season.

F-R-A-U-D

 

[Waffle Honcho]

It's not a matter of "if" Al Golden wins a National Championship at Miami, but WHEN!!!

All you need to know is that he won at TEMPLE.
HE WON AT ******* TEMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus. Is this sarcasm?

Go back and look at the opponents he beat at Temple over that now infamous 9 win season.

F-R-A-U-D

Those were actually some pretty good teams for Temple to beat.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

It's not a matter of "if" Al Golden wins a National Championship at Miami, but WHEN!!!

All you need to know is that he won at TEMPLE.
HE WON AT ******* TEMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus. Is this sarcasm?

Go back and look at the opponents he beat at Temple over that now infamous 9 win season.

F-R-A-U-D

Those were actually some pretty good teams for Temple to beat.

They played 2 good teams that year and lost to them both.

The rest are a bunch of bad-mediocre teams with several close wins.

This is easily the most baseless, overrated stat that the Golden sunshine pumping, Don Bailey Jr discipling crowd clings to with all of their might.

Guy won 9 games at Temple against Temple competition....is it not fair to ask him to actually beat Miami calibre competition now that he has Miami talent.

I repeat....1-11 at Miami against teams with more than 7 wins. Damning stat.

 

[Miami82]

No disrespect, weownfsu, but did you not see how many injuries UF had last season? When we played them they were a very competitive and good team. Their injuries snowballed out of control as they lost an enormous amount of their starters and 2 deep. Hence the reason most polls have them rated higher than us coming of a 4-8 season. Even with Driskell as QB.

What's revisionist is you, and people like you, speaking about Golden's tenure as if it was an ideal situation.
Shannon left this program in a dumpster, and his ignorance and sheer stupidity almost caused this program to cease to exist.

We were a laughingstock in college football, and an NFL joke when Golden took over. We were also pretty much shut out of the best recruiting area in the country thanks to Shannon's myopia.

The reason Golden has great national respect amongst his peers, even if a few local morons belittle him, is because he has done quite a bit with very little, in the worst imaginable situation for a head coach.

1, the bolded is horrendously wrong because it was Shannon that tried his best to get Nevin out of the program. He even threatened to suspend players and fire coaches if he caught them associating with Shapiro.

Two, my post has nothing to do with whether Golden inherited an "ideal" situation. That's nothing but a red herring by you. I pointed out that Golden has done basically the same thing as Shannon so far, and there's no reason to assume that Golden will "win big" yet. That's it. You guys constantly bring up all this other BS to make excuses for Golden, but none of that explains why we should assume that Golden is going to win big.

Golden has done the exact opposite of Shannon.
Shannon alienated ever high school coach, except it seems a few whom he knew from his hood.
Golden has successfully rebuilt those bridges Shannon burned.

Shannon's idea of training and diet led us to being laughed at by NFL guys like Alonzo Highsmith.
Golden's S & C program and emphasis on good diet versus Shannon's KFC training table, has NFL personnel looking at Miami as a scouting destination again, instead of a vacation spot.

The reason Golden will win very big here is pretty evident when you look at the players.
Look at our 2nd, 3rd and 4th year players.
They have all gotten better each year.
We don't have any bad apples, ala Ray Ray, anymore. Our best players seem to be our hardest workers, and that speaks to, not just individual, but team character.
When everyone on your 2 deep is talented, has worked as hard as possible for self and team improvement, has studied to thoroughly grasp the play book, and most importantly are all pulling on the same oar, then you have a very dangerous team.

The haters always say, "Well, win big and then we will see."
Last year we beat a ranked Gator team, now the revisionists, like yourself, say they sucked.
At the time we beat them they were a top 20 team.

Seems like you guys are only looking for the negatives, while the positives are all around.


Here's a positive you all forget.

Golden is locked into Miami for the long haul. Hate all you want, but he isn't going anywhere for the next 5 years.

Revisionists? UF did suck. They were a 4-8 team that lost to an FCS team who did not even complete a pass in the game. I don't think you know what the word "revisionist" means. Beating a 4-8 UF team is not "winning big." And it doesn't mean anything when you blow multiple chances to win your side of the ACC, AGAIN.

That whole word salad is nice, but it doesn't explain why I'm supposed to think a guy who has fielded the worst D's in UM history, regularly gets beat down against good teams, and cannot beat teams with 8 or more wins is going to win big here.

From these stats, would you think the team that dominated won or lost? If they lost did they beat themselves? [TABLE="class: mod-data"]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: bi, align: left"]1st Downs[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: bi, align: left"]Total Yards[/TD]
[TD]413[/TD]
[TD]212[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: bi, align: left"]Passing[/TD]
[TD]291[/TD]
[TD]162[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: bi, align: left"]Rushing[/TD]
[TD]122[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: bi, align: left"]Penalties[/TD]
[TD]10-70[/TD]
[TD]5-58[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: bi, align: left"]3rd Down Conversions[/TD]
[TD]6-15[/TD]
[TD]1-11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: bi, align: left"]4th Down Conversions[/TD]
[TD]0-1[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: bi, align: left"]Turnovers[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: bi, align: left"]Possession[/TD]
[TD]38:20[/TD]
[TD]21:40[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Waffle Honcho]

It's not a matter of "if" Al Golden wins a National Championship at Miami, but WHEN!!!

All you need to know is that he won at TEMPLE.
HE WON AT ******* TEMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus. Is this sarcasm?

Go back and look at the opponents he beat at Temple over that now infamous 9 win season.

F-R-A-U-D

Those were actually some pretty good teams for Temple to beat.

They played 2 good teams that year and lost to them both.

The rest are a bunch of bad-mediocre teams with several close wins.

This is easily the most baseless, overrated stat that the Golden sunshine pumping, Don Bailey Jr discipling crowd clings to with all of their might.

So that 10-4 Navy team that beat Notre Dame was "bad-mediocre"? I don't really care about what he did at Temple. I just hate when people say retarded things.

 

[arcane]

I'll tell you one thing. Al looks more relaxed than he's ever looked here. Hopefully, that means he thinks he's got something special brewing this season.

That's what he's told the admin and they believe him. They also recognize he has been recruiting at an elite level since 2012 and much better than Randy Shannon in any way including his 2008 class. They feel that with the talent he has brought in, wins should be more convincing, but they're giving him some leeway with that. The, "vibe," around the season and program as a whole is very positive from the admin's perspective. They expect major success this year and while angry are grateful that he wasn't offered the job from Penn State.

Whoever said he is without question here until 2019 is beyond wrong. The admin expects results now.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I wonder what makes you think this.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

It's not a matter of "if" Al Golden wins a National Championship at Miami, but WHEN!!!

All you need to know is that he won at TEMPLE.
HE WON AT ******* TEMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus. Is this sarcasm?

Go back and look at the opponents he beat at Temple over that now infamous 9 win season.

F-R-A-U-D

Those were actually some pretty good teams for Temple to beat.

They played 2 good teams that year and lost to them both.

The rest are a bunch of bad-mediocre teams with several close wins.

This is easily the most baseless, overrated stat that the Golden sunshine pumping, Don Bailey Jr discipling crowd clings to with all of their might.

So that 10-4 Navy team that beat Notre Dame was "bad-mediocre"? I don't really care about what he did at Temple. I just hate when people say retarded things.

It's Navy. You're **** right. Either way it's nothing that should be used to attempt to validate a resume.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Pretty sad that Miami fans will diminish a solid win against a ranked UF team to attack our coaches and team.

 

[Miami82]

I detest Shannon as a coach but at least Randy never left us hanging right before signing day while he was out trying to find another job

context is everything. UM knew about the investigation before it hired Golden and it chose not to tell Golden about it when it interviewed and hired Golden. They royally screwed him without any lube, hence why they extended his contract through 2019 or so (if not later). so when his alma mater came flirting, he probably felt ZERO loyalty to his employer and went awol while he hoped he would get an offer that apparently never came.

Went AWOL?

He was on vacation when rumors started flying, and within 48 hours he held a press conference and said he's a Cane for the long haul.

LOL, uh no. Even the school President didn't know what was going on. Seriously you guys will go to any length to protect your boy. The difference between you and the mopes is we are a fan of the U, and not the staff.