without its top playmakers....what's the defense's excuse?33% on 3rd downs over the last 4 ACC games. Apparently that hasn't sunk in yet. And, yep, the defense sucked, too.
funny that you only took into account the games where Duke and Dorsett were missing. kind of an important fact to overlook
We have NO PLAYMAKERS on Defense.
Even with DUke and Dorsett out, the offense still has better overall talent on offense then the defense does.
So save the No playmakers excuse cause if you gonna use it for the offense well you gonna have to use it for the defense as well..
Thanks for playing.
1) You need to improve your critical thinking and reading comprehension
2) My premise is that the offense lost really important players on which it relied on heavily hence the drop in performance. The D on the other hand was pretty much at full strength all year. (minus the last couple of games where we lost a few players at our deepest position on defense)
3) No playmakers? Tracy, Denzel, LGunter, Rayshawn, ABurns and Tyriq would like a word with you.
4) With regard to the 2-Deep for Pitt the Offense has = 1 5*, 6 4*, 13 3*, 1 2*(according to Rivals). The Defense on the other hand has = 1 5*, 9 4*, 10 3*, and 2 2*(According to Rivals). Mind you 3 of the 6 4* on offense are Malcolm Lewis, Eduardo Clements and Beau Sandland
The idea that the offense has better overall talent only stems from the fact that they look WAY better on the field, because the COACHING places them in situations where they will succeed. It has nothing to do with the fact that they actually possess more players that have more capabilities. At least, that's what you can gather from recruiting rankings. In reality you have nothing to prove that the O has more talent than the D. You're just making that assumption because they look FAR better and my premise is that that has a lot more to do with what the coaches are asking of them than what they're actually capable of doing.
12 of the 22 starters on the 2 Deep are Shannon guys. 8 of them are on the offensive side of the ball only 4 are on D. That means most of the guys on D are Golden's guys. The Offense is looking pretty good with a bunch of holdovers from a failed coaching staff, while the defensive side of the ball is historically bad filled with almost entirely Golden's recruits. That's alarming.
What's more alarming is that you keep blaming all of the defense's failures on just a handful of guys; some that have played well, others that were highly recruited and others that aren't "Miami caliber", yet after year 3 the staff hasn't been able to find guys to supplant the handful of you guys you keep throwing under the bus. Even their highly touted guys like Kirby and Bush are having trouble holding off these "god-awful Shannon players" on D, so what makes you or I think that the talent they're bringing is going fare any better?
Yet, somehow you find this as an indictment on the previous staff and a free pass for the current one and it doesn't make any sense. Some of the arguments in this thread are laughable and it's painfully obvious you guys are trying way too hard to defend the coaching staff. I don't know if its because you like Golden's hair, or his quotes, or his tie, but his D's performance has been way below its capabilities, historically bad, embarrassing for a "defensive coach" and grounds for dismissal of the entire staff AT ANY OTHER SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY. Why not here?
Is this real life?
The offense HAS MORE TALENT.. WAY MORE TALENT..
This isn't debatable. It has nothing to do with coaches.
Isn't debatable or you're just incapable of making an argument for it based on facts? Here, since we've already established you have trouble understanding what you read and thinking critically, I'll post the numbers for you again:
***With regard to the 2-Deep for Pitt the Offense has = 1 5*, 6 4*, 13 3*, 1 2*(according to Rivals). The Defense on the other hand has = 1 5*, 9 4*, 10 3*, and 2 2*(According to Rivals). Mind you 3 of the 6 4* on offense are Malcolm Lewis, Eduardo Clements and Beau Sandland***