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2020 DB Edric Whitley offered

Cuban-Cane said:
It means he found a kid no one else had found that can play at this level. Watch more power 5 offers come in over the next few days. It’s a good find as he is better than a lot of guy many on here were pounding the table for.
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How the f**k would you know coach? (or are you still asking us all if you should coach?)
 
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AllAboutTheU said:
He found the kid in January, after completely mismanaging the board the entire season and whiffing on multiple targets. Let's not forget those key facts.
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This is what apologists and just absolutely clueless 247 slurps like CubanCane will never understand...The man simply does not know what he's doing. Cornerback is the last position the coach of the Miami Hurricanes should be scrambling for.
 
I think everybody needs to calm down. Yea, Rumph screwed up the CB room but this is obviously a backup plan. He has Colson OVing, Rakestraw OVing, and Morton OVing. Colson already said he isn’t taking anymore visits after us. It’s obvious that Colson and this kid are plan B and Rakestraw and Morton are the priorities.
 
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Zbrod95 said:
I think everybody needs to calm down. Yea, Rumph screwed up the CB room EVERY SINGLE YEAR HE'S BEEN HERE but this is obviously a backup plan. He has Colson OVing, Rakestraw OVing, and Morton OVing. Colson already said he isn’t taking anymore visits after us. It’s obvious that Colson and this kid are plan B and Rakestraw and Morton are the priorities.
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Fixed it for ya
 
Liberty City El said:
Fast kid that will have to be taught how to play CB.

They're basically just offering anybody who runs a 4.4 or lower & just hoping we can mold them into a legit CB.

The problem is we're extremely thin at CB & have no depth to be bringing in project CB's who are 1-2 seasons away from being contributors at CB. The most they can do is play Special Teams.

This kid, Colson & Marcus Clarke are all projects, now Clarke is farther ahead & more naturally talented than the other two, but none of them will be EE's & none of them can be expected to come in & play right away, they're all Redshirt players.

Which means we're going to have Al Blades Jr, Ivey (who's horrendous in coverage), Couch & Williams who have never started a game, and two CB's that will need a Redshirt & neither physically ready to play as TF's.

We literally might not have a playable 2-deep lineup at CB, as it stands we seriously have only enough CB's to run the Dime package & if any of them get hurt we'll have to play two TF's that need a redshirt & are two years away. We have 4 playable Corners, with one being terrible in coverage & 2 having to learn on the job.

In other words, Rumph has done a terrific job with the CB room...
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They don’t play many corners anyway. Frierson will be on the field most of the time over a extra corner probably just like finley was.
 
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Zbrod95 said:
I think everybody needs to calm down. Yea, Rumph screwed up the CB room but this is obviously a backup plan. He has Colson OVing, Rakestraw OVing, and Morton OVing. Colson already said he isn’t taking anymore visits after us. It’s obvious that Colson and this kid are plan B and Rakestraw and Morton are the priorities.
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I would take this kid before Colson.
 
twes.305 said:
10.72 100 is verified, he probably runs no slower than a 4.4 with a 4.2 shuttle, which is still really good.
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Wow thanks...Track or from one of the Opening events?

NVM: I guess had to be track, they don't run 100 at opening.
 
skeeter said:
Perfectly worded...It's not just that he misses at the top (although in his case the fact he missed on all the AH corners should have given us a clue) it's that he completely mismanages his board. Don't get me wrong...He should land 1 every 2-3 years at the top too...Just by accident and just being at UM.

But since he screws that up, then he at least should organize and manage his board. So many backup plans in Sofla and even they laugh in his face
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The board falls on diaz he approves all targets and offers. We have seen the same mismanagement at other positions too.
 
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252cane said:
The board falls on diaz he approves all targets and offers. We have seen the same mismanagement at other positions too.
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I agree overall there is some lack of organization and tiers and decision to when to move on to those tiers...But I think it's worst at CB for 3 years (OL giving it a run this year though lol)
 
skeeter said:
I agree overall there is some lack of organization and tiers and decision to when to move on to those tiers...But I think it's worst at CB for 3 years (OL giving it a run this year though lol)
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I don’t know what they got going on. It’s crazy how much and how long this team has struggled to recruit corners
 
Not a bad late offer surprised he doesn't have more g5 offers off intangibles alone.
 
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cleverjdub said:
Not trying to defend Rumph's recruiting deficiencies, we all can agree he has some. Now that I have that out of the way.

We actually need to take guys like this and I would take a minimum of two every cycle, until we get the CB room back right with depth and we start landing CB recruits who need less development before they see the field. The point of any recruit no matter the position is projecting what you think he can be developed into regardless of star ranking. This is what Butch was revered for and why everyone loves him. By no means I am saying that Rumph or anyone on this staff is Butch, but we have developed some raw players into NFL prospects (most notably Michael Jackson,Gregory Rousseau, and etc.) Most people know that star rankings are a mixed bag with some legit players who deserve them, while others benefit from the politics side of it or the camp circuit, while others get the benefit of none.

Take D.J. Ivey for example most people thought he was a coup because he appeared to show refined technique at such a young age and his ability to mirror receivers and stay in their pocket was good. Fast forward to now everyone is killing him because he lacks closing speed (which we all knew but ignored) and he has shown that he is stiff and rigid when he is forced to open up his hips and the mirroring ability we clamored might have been over hyped (Hopefully the kid improves and get better).

CB is a position where technique, change of direction, closing speed and other little nuances (long arms and etc.) are important skills/traits that when armed together properly make a player good or great. Some of those things can be taught like technique for example while others like speed and agility can't per-say. Ivey is an example that shows this because he lacks closing speed, and good COD, he continually suffers in man coverage and that can not be overcome in certain situations because he lacks an unteachable trait/skill.

I'm not calling Ivey a project like Whitley, but my point is we should take a few guys like Whitley who possess good/great speed, agility, and etc. to build depth, because technique is a major part of what a CB must learn to progress and develop appropriately anyway and this is supposed to be Rumph's calling card.

I get we already missed the boat on some guys we should have or could have taken, but lets focus on what we can do to fix the problem now and how to prevent this going forward by building depth through development. Give me some guys that possesses good speed and natural athleticism that doesn't mind being developed for a few years and learning the position.

Wasn't Brown (UCF commit) a raw player that we were ok with taking at CB knowing he needed development? Although he was rated as a 4 star and not to compare these guys to him, but CJ Henderson was Raw as a CB as well coming out, but coaches knew they could develop and mold his raw talent (which was elite) into a finished product. Of course we can see he obviously turned into a 1st day pick, but with any player it's about projecting and none of them are sure fire bets to be NFL propsects.

Just my opinion give me a few highly athletic raw players to go along with other more developed players every year to build depth until the winning comes and things change. This is how redshirting can be a good thing when used correctly.
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Post more. You're actually bringing something to CIS. We lost a few good football posters over the past 12-16 months who actual knew football because of "management."
 
twes.305 said:
10.72 100 is verified, he probably runs no slower than a 4.4 with a 4.2 shuttle, which is still really good.
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11.04c is the verified time...he also ran 11.76 and 11.52 a few weeks before that event.....23.00 range in the 200....2018 he ran 12.02, 11.96, 12.03,11.92, 11.64, 11.6....I seriously doubt this kid has 4.4 speed.....probably closer to 4.7....
 
nycane said:
bro, im not saying rumph hasnt underperformed, im saying its the staff as a whole. if hes gone, it aint changing
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Look at the defensive staff. Rumph whose shown he's garbage. Banda the bartender and Patke whose at best is a GA. Add in Manny has never been known for recruiting and this is what you get.
 
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