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[ProjectMKUltra5]

If Golden and D'Onofrio stay, we're not winning Coastal even if they stay until 2020 when his contract is up.

They have a rich, rich gold mine here in Miami.

But they're mining copper.

Everyone else is getting Miami speed, and we're getting Penn State pokey.

The best of players can't overcome **** poor coaching. Schemes. Philosophy.

If Golden had the 2001 team, we'd have won nine.

1. We get it, you dont like Golden or D'onofrio and were gunna suck til they leave.
2. We can agree on that
3. Duke Johnson, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, and Chad Thomas disagree
4. See #3
5. Larry Coker?
6. Yeah well thats just like, your opinion man

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

lol

 

[Calinative]

If Golden and D'Onofrio stay, we're not winning Coastal even if they stay until 2020 when his contract is up.

They have a rich, rich gold mine here in Miami.

But they're mining copper.

Everyone else is getting Miami speed, and we're getting Penn State pokey.

The best of players can't overcome **** poor coaching. Schemes. Philosophy.

If Golden had the 2001 team, we'd have won nine.

1. We get it, you dont like Golden or D'onofrio and were gunna suck til they leave.
2. We can agree on that
3. Duke Johnson, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, and Chad Thomas disagree
4. See #3
5. Larry Coker?
6. Yeah well thats just like, your opinion man

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

I don't think Coker was a good coach. Should have won National Championships in 2000 and 2002. The other coaches were good, just didn't like the Head guy, which is the most important one.

 

[Miami82]

If Golden and D'Onofrio stay, we're not winning Coastal even if they stay until 2020 when his contract is up.

They have a rich, rich gold mine here in Miami.

But they're mining copper.

Everyone else is getting Miami speed, and we're getting Penn State pokey.

The best of players can't overcome **** poor coaching. Schemes. Philosophy.

If Golden had the 2001 team, we'd have won nine.

1. We get it, you dont like Golden or D'onofrio and were gunna suck til they leave.
2. We can agree on that
3. Duke Johnson, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, and Chad Thomas disagree
4. See #3
5. Larry Coker?
6. Yeah well thats just like, your opinion man

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

lol

Thanks for your contribution, its ranks right up there with your other posts.

 

[DadeCountyFinest]

If Golden and D'Onofrio stay, we're not winning Coastal even if they stay until 2020 when his contract is up.

They have a rich, rich gold mine here in Miami.

But they're mining copper.

Everyone else is getting Miami speed, and we're getting Penn State pokey.

The best of players can't overcome **** poor coaching. Schemes. Philosophy.

If Golden had the 2001 team, we'd have won nine.

1. We get it, you dont like Golden or D'onofrio and were gunna suck til they leave.
2. We can agree on that
3. Duke Johnson, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, and Chad Thomas disagree
4. See #3
5. Larry Coker?
6. Yeah well thats just like, your opinion man

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

Shannon over Golden and you say I'm delusional :ibisroflmao: Where you get your GED from?

 

[Angry Ibis]

If Golden and D'Onofrio stay, we're not winning Coastal even if they stay until 2020 when his contract is up.

They have a rich, rich gold mine here in Miami.

But they're mining copper.

Everyone else is getting Miami speed, and we're getting Penn State pokey.

The best of players can't overcome **** poor coaching. Schemes. Philosophy.

If Golden had the 2001 team, we'd have won nine.

1. We get it, you dont like Golden or D'onofrio and were gunna suck til they leave.
2. We can agree on that
3. Duke Johnson, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, and Chad Thomas disagree
4. See #3
5. Larry Coker?
6. Yeah well thats just like, your opinion man

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

On one hand you are saying we haven't been the U in 10 years, then you want the two staffs that lead to nothing but an NCAA investigation and near irrelevance.

Makes sense.

I'm not anti-Golden, I'm pro-Miami.

 

[Miami82]

If Golden and D'Onofrio stay, we're not winning Coastal even if they stay until 2020 when his contract is up.

They have a rich, rich gold mine here in Miami.

But they're mining copper.

Everyone else is getting Miami speed, and we're getting Penn State pokey.

The best of players can't overcome **** poor coaching. Schemes. Philosophy.

If Golden had the 2001 team, we'd have won nine.

1. We get it, you dont like Golden or D'onofrio and were gunna suck til they leave.
2. We can agree on that
3. Duke Johnson, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, and Chad Thomas disagree
4. See #3
5. Larry Coker?
6. Yeah well thats just like, your opinion man

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

Shannon over Golden and you say I'm delusional :ibisroflmao: Where you get your GED from?

I didn't say Shannon over Golden, read much. The context of the comment was the 01 team. Coker was HC and Shannon was DC, a very good DC by the way.

Neither Coker or Shannon had the goods to be the right HC for longevity, but they were the right choice for 01/02.

 

[Miami82]

If Golden and D'Onofrio stay, we're not winning Coastal even if they stay until 2020 when his contract is up.

They have a rich, rich gold mine here in Miami.

But they're mining copper.

Everyone else is getting Miami speed, and we're getting Penn State pokey.

The best of players can't overcome **** poor coaching. Schemes. Philosophy.

If Golden had the 2001 team, we'd have won nine.

1. We get it, you dont like Golden or D'onofrio and were gunna suck til they leave.
2. We can agree on that
3. Duke Johnson, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, and Chad Thomas disagree
4. See #3
5. Larry Coker?
6. Yeah well thats just like, your opinion man

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

On one hand you are saying we haven't been the U in 10 years, then you want the two staffs that lead to nothing but an NCAA investigation and near irrelevance.

Makes sense.

I'm not anti-Golden, I'm pro-Miami.

LOL, that is not what I said. Read it again in the context of what I was replying to.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

1. We get it, you dont like Golden or D'onofrio and were gunna suck til they leave.
2. We can agree on that
3. Duke Johnson, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, and Chad Thomas disagree
4. See #3
5. Larry Coker?
6. Yeah well thats just like, your opinion man

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

Shannon over Golden and you say I'm delusional :ibisroflmao: Where you get your GED from?

I didn't say Shannon over Golden, read much. The context of the comment was the 01 team. Coker was HC and Shannon was DC, a very good DC by the way.

Neither Coker or Shannon had the goods to be the right HC for longevity, but they were the right choice for 01/02.

So why cant Shannon get a DC gig?

 

[ProjectMKUltra5]

1. We get it, you dont like Golden or D'onofrio and were gunna suck til they leave.
2. We can agree on that
3. Duke Johnson, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, and Chad Thomas disagree
4. See #3
5. Larry Coker?
6. Yeah well thats just like, your opinion man

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

lol

Thanks for your contribution, its ranks right up there with your other posts.

You expected a serious response to that statement? One is a posistion coach and the other is the head coach at UTSA. Both had there chance and failed, quite badly. Not to mention there the reason for the **** Golden had to deal with and him needing to restock the roster. How exactly are either of them better choices? And remember before you answer that, BOTH OF THEM ALREADY FAILED.

 

[Miami82]

If Golden and D'Onofrio stay, we're not winning Coastal even if they stay until 2020 when his contract is up.

They have a rich, rich gold mine here in Miami.

But they're mining copper.

Everyone else is getting Miami speed, and we're getting Penn State pokey.

The best of players can't overcome **** poor coaching. Schemes. Philosophy.

If Golden had the 2001 team, we'd have won nine.

1. We get it, you dont like Golden or D'onofrio and were gunna suck til they leave.
2. We can agree on that
3. Duke Johnson, Stacy Coley, Tracy Howard, and Chad Thomas disagree
4. See #3
5. Larry Coker?
6. Yeah well thats just like, your opinion man

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

I don't think Coker was a good coach. Should have won National Championships in 2000 and 2002. The other coaches were good, just didn't like the Head guy, which is the most important one.

Butch was the HC in 00, and yes we should have won the 02 NC. 00 was more of a result of the voters vs the actually events. We beat the noles that year and should have been in front of them.

 

[Miami82]

I said this in a thread from like a month ago, but a lot of Elite talent can overcome bad coaching (2001), But it is soo much easier for good/great coaching to overcome mediocre talent.
We have elite talent in some spots, but not nearly enough on Defense to overcome Onofrio. Only FSU has more overall talent than us in the ACC.

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

lol

Thanks for your contribution, its ranks right up there with your other posts.

You expected a serious response to that statement? One is a posistion coach and the other is the head coach at UTSA. Both had there chance and failed, quite badly. Not to mention there the reason for the **** Golden had to deal with and him needing to restock the roster. How exactly are either of them better choices? And remember before you answer that, BOTH OF THEM ALREADY FAILED.

The combo of Coker/Shannon today with what we have would win more games under them vs Golden/NoD. Guaranteed. The biggest difference would be the D we would run.

 

[supacane]

Lol. We have talent on D that comes back from last year. Morris replacement will be better yada yada. Every time I try to get myself amped for the season.....I be like " but we still have No D tho" all optimism disappear. Lol its like wifing a ho thinking she is going to change. She still sucks the whole neighborhood and your shocked. ....well she is a proven ho. No D garbage prevent defense will get exposed the first game of the season. Trust me 3 years is enough proof of what type of DC a guy is. Whatever happens with the offense No D is not winning anything at Miami. Sorry I have seen 37 games and thats enough because number 37 was the worst one to date.

 

[weownfsu]

Golden hasn't prove to be better than Shannon yet. In fact their time at UM has been basically the same through three years. We'll see what the fourth year holds.

 

[ProjectMKUltra5]

01 wasn't bad coaching. Only a tard with an agenda would say such a thing.

I'd take Coker/Shannon over this staff all day long...

lol

Thanks for your contribution, its ranks right up there with your other posts.

You expected a serious response to that statement? One is a posistion coach and the other is the head coach at UTSA. Both had there chance and failed, quite badly. Not to mention there the reason for the **** Golden had to deal with and him needing to restock the roster. How exactly are either of them better choices? And remember before you answer that, BOTH OF THEM ALREADY FAILED.

The combo of Coker/Shannon today with what we have would win more games under them vs Golden/NoD. Guaranteed. The biggest difference would be the D we would run.

Your basing this opinion on what exactly?

 

[weownfsu]

Also, this discussion is stupid because the kids on the 2001 team received excellent coaching in the years leading up to the team. "schemes" aren't the only part of coaching. At one point, UM had 3 future NFL HC's and a college HC/NFL coordinator on the coaching staff. So they had been taught how to play football by some of the best in the game. Those kids didn't "overcome" inept coaching. They benefited from elite coaching for years Yeah, Coker wasn't a good coach but he was fine for 2001 because all he had to do was not crash the car. Those guys had already been coached up. It's not as if all those guys suddenly forgot what they had learned over the years. You recruit the same players with an inept coaching staff, and they don't turn into the best team ever.

 

[ProjectMKUltra5]

Also, this discussion is stupid because the kids on the 2001 team received excellent coaching in the years leading up to the team. "schemes" aren't the only part of coaching. At one point, UM had 3 future NFL HC's and a college HC/NFL coordinator on the coaching staff. So they had been taught how to play football by some of the best in the game. Those kids didn't "overcome" inept coaching. They benefited from elite coaching for years Yeah, Coker wasn't a good coach but he was fine for 2001 because all he had to do was not crash the car. Those guys had already been coached up. It's not as if all those guys suddenly forgot what they had learned over the years. You recruit the same players with an inept coaching staff, and they don't turn into the best team ever.

Word, I stand corrected

 

[Miami82]

Also, this discussion is stupid because the kids on the 2001 team received excellent coaching in the years leading up to the team. "schemes" aren't the only part of coaching. At one point, UM had 3 future NFL HC's and a college HC/NFL coordinator on the coaching staff. So they had been taught how to play football by some of the best in the game. Those kids didn't "overcome" inept coaching. They benefited from elite coaching for years Yeah, Coker wasn't a good coach but he was fine for 2001 because all he had to do was not crash the car. Those guys had already been coached up. It's not as if all those guys suddenly forgot what they had learned over the years. You recruit the same players with an inept coaching staff, and they don't turn into the best team ever.

True, and Coker and Shannon were both either Coordinators or a position coach through that stretch. They never should have been given the reigns as HC.

 

[Miami82]

lol

Thanks for your contribution, its ranks right up there with your other posts.

You expected a serious response to that statement? One is a posistion coach and the other is the head coach at UTSA. Both had there chance and failed, quite badly. Not to mention there the reason for the **** Golden had to deal with and him needing to restock the roster. How exactly are either of them better choices? And remember before you answer that, BOTH OF THEM ALREADY FAILED.

The combo of Coker/Shannon today with what we have would win more games under them vs Golden/NoD. Guaranteed. The biggest difference would be the D we would run.

Your basing this opinion on what exactly?

Read it again.

 

[weownfsu]

Also, this discussion is stupid because the kids on the 2001 team received excellent coaching in the years leading up to the team. "schemes" aren't the only part of coaching. At one point, UM had 3 future NFL HC's and a college HC/NFL coordinator on the coaching staff. So they had been taught how to play football by some of the best in the game. Those kids didn't "overcome" inept coaching. They benefited from elite coaching for years Yeah, Coker wasn't a good coach but he was fine for 2001 because all he had to do was not crash the car. Those guys had already been coached up. It's not as if all those guys suddenly forgot what they had learned over the years. You recruit the same players with an inept coaching staff, and they don't turn into the best team ever.

True, and Coker and Shannon were both either Coordinators or a position coach through that stretch. They never should have been given the reigns as HC.

Even when Schiano, Pagano, and Butch left, we brought in Randy to run the D and then Mike Stoops to coach the DB's. We always had very good position and at the very least solid coordinating coaching back then.

 

[ProjectMKUltra5]

Thanks for your contribution, its ranks right up there with your other posts.

You expected a serious response to that statement? One is a posistion coach and the other is the head coach at UTSA. Both had there chance and failed, quite badly. Not to mention there the reason for the **** Golden had to deal with and him needing to restock the roster. How exactly are either of them better choices? And remember before you answer that, BOTH OF THEM ALREADY FAILED.

The combo of Coker/Shannon today with what we have would win more games under them vs Golden/NoD. Guaranteed. The biggest difference would be the D we would run.

Your basing this opinion on what exactly?

Read it again.

That says nothing about success. Just because its not what Golden and D'onofrio run doesnt mean it would work lol