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Zo's Evals Already Impacting Recruiting

ST26 said:
I just look at what happened in Seattle. They have had back to back terrible drafts and they have had some bad free agency moves the last few seasons. It's not entirely Zo's fault, there are obviously a lot of other people involved. I personally would rather have the coaching staff be the prime evaluators
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They ARE.

Butch left on Thursdays to evaluate talent for JJ. Butch was goooood! But JJ always had the last word.

Same here!
 
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Canefam said:
The story with Hykeem seems to be more with ATM than us... Back in Jan, Jimbo was going to get everyone... Hykeem was leaning that way a bunch. Obviously, the ATM seems to be running low on funds right now as they currently have the 60th class right now. I also believe Hykeem also plays for the SFE 7 on 7 team. We all know where those kids end up, i.e. anywhere but Miami. I'm not sure where this one is going. Obviously, he is an extreme talent and him paired with Joseph would be a Grand Slam. Fingers crossed.
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Not low in funds, just on the radar and trying to keep a lower profile this class. Miami is always hated so we just have to for our Is and cross our Ts
 
ST26 said:
I just look at what happened in Seattle. They have had back to back terrible drafts and they have had some bad free agency moves the last few seasons. It's not entirely Zo's fault, there are obviously a lot of other people involved. I personally would rather have the coaching staff be the prime evaluators
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Ummmmm you are aware that Zo was not the GM right? He definitely is not the HC either. He was VP of Personnel for the Browns in 2018-19, and prior to that made his bones for 19 years. Don't know about you but the Packers have done pretty well for themselves in personnel for quite some time. Does he get all the credit? Absolutely not but he did have a hand in it. Browns actually did bring in some talent in his time there as well, again he was not the final decision there either, just like he was not in Green Bay either. So again how is to blame in Seattle?????

Now based on his overall resume and expertise please elaborate how it will not be of value in helping evaluate recruits better?
 
Bender said:
I'm gonna post a little story on how having multiple voices in a scouting/evaluation capacity matter:

In 2019, the Patriots wanted to take a WR early. There were plenty of options available: AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel, DK Metcalf, N'Keal Harry.

The scouts stood on Belichicks table and pretty much told him to take either Brown or Samuel. They were miles ahead of Harry and said, these two would be elite in short order. And Belichick liked Brown in particular also.

Belichick took Harry because he asked Herm Edwards about him and he gave a positive review. Harry was just traded to the Bears for a 2024 7th rounder, while Deebo may sign the biggest contract for a WR in NFL history. AJ Brown just signed a four year, 100 million dollar deal with the Eagles. The selection was so bad, Belichick went away from the draft and let his scouts pick the board instead of him. It resulted in them drafting Mac Jones, Christian Barmore, Rhamondre Stevenson and future (at least) role players in McGrone, Nixon and Ronnie Perkins.

Having a ****load of eyes looking at your board is key and I think in this situation, it will help us land better players and make better evaluations. Lets not forget: Alonzo has worked in the NFL as a scout for a long time now and they scout from the High School up all the way to college. He has seen a ****load of tape in his time.
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Bud, that pick has the natives in a tizzy. Deebo Samuel. Good lord. There is a faction up here calling for Bill’s head. He has had some doozies in the past five years in the draft. Henry has been called his worst pick ever.

Number 2- Dominique Easley for anyone keeping score.
 
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Macca said:
Bud, that pick has the natives in a tizzy. Deebo Samuel. Good lord. There is a faction up here calling for Bill’s head. He has had some doozies in the past five years in the draft. Henry has been called his worst pick ever.

Number 2- Dominique Easley for anyone keeping score.
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Yeah. It all led to him just dropping it.

I also dont think having Caserio was good. The dude couldn't evaluate to save his ******* life. Ernie Adams randomly picked Tre Nixon and he dominated minicamp lol

Easley also wasn't that bad when you think about. Ray Lewis loved it. Easleys problem were his knees not being healthy.
 
Bender said:
Yeah. It all led to him just dropping it.

I also dont think having Caserio was good. The dude couldn't evaluate to save his ******* life. Ernie Adams randomly picked Tre Nixon and he dominated minicamp lol

Easley also wasn't that bad when you think about. Ray Lewis loved it. Easleys problem were his knees not being healthy.
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To be fair, Easley was damaged goods as you mentioned. Kids knees were in rough shape.
 
Brown has speed you want in your WR room. Any idea that he wasn’t a take..yeaa im not buying that at all. Kid said he wanted to leave south Florida..that’s the word on him. Wish him luck or whatever but let’s not start the “he didn’t pick us so he wasn’t really a priority” narrative we see the folks up north pulling when a kid chooses to go else where..every HS Wr is raw and unpolished but there’s elite traits you look to mold..I’ve said it before I think ceiling wise Hakeem has the highest of the guys in south Florida. Even more than innis who is no doubt the most polished out of the bunch at this stage..but HW is very raw and from what I understand is more of a basketball kid starting to focus more on his football craft..Williams has been a priority but was flying sorta under the radar down here lots of SEC schools and OSU started to take interest and that recruitment really began to take off nationally ..that’s a recruiting battle that’s like to be a hard fought battle.
 
ST26 said:
I don't believe the AD hired him to be an evaluator. No offense, he didn't do that well with the Browns and Seattle. He was hired to take control of the day to day operations..
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I’ll say this..Zo has been around every major university too see how those programs are run..I think out of all things that’s the best trait he brings to Miami..the talent evaluations, Mario will listen to input from his coaches on staff along with Zo but in end the buck stops at Mario’s desk
 
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ChrisLamar757 said:
"Zo's evaluations" will be a meme for the next few years
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Cribby said:
Miami would‘ve taken Brown just on the politics of the situation. They never stopped recruited him or moved on. You don’t turn away a local five star. That said thekk staff is much higher on HW and Jean.
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Is William Fowles a take for the staff? How would you guage the staffs interest?
 
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