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2024 Zaquan Patterson - Safety, Chaminade

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NJshoreCane said:
Agree.
Up NIL game to compete with the bag game, no?
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Only works to a degree. Promise of future payment vs. bag of cash here and now can be hard to overcome sometimes. Especially if other team is offering similar legal payment while handing $20k (or whatever the amount may be) untaxed, unreported illegal payment on top of it to get the initial commitment.
 
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P-Tizzle said:
Don't forget you predicted the firing of Manny, I believe, after the loss to Michigan St, and that was week 3. I remember the big deal was whether Miami would fire Manny or not even after the season. The guys over at 247 had no information. Navarro was doing spaces every day and he was still saying Manny might return....and this was after the season.
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And Rique nearly a month before he entered the portal
 
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Felonious Monk said:
Oklahoma, sure, what exactly have the others accomplished? We last had a 10 win season in 2017. Teams will overpay. We saw players get paid for skipping an OV. Players get paid to commit at certain events, even if they won't stick. There's a long way to ESD, this will all change. Winning will help, but it's not the only factor.

Atm's last 10 win seasons: 2012
Auburn's was 2017 like us.
FU's was 2019, so you could make that argument although they dropped off a cliff after that.
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Sorry i can't defend our record the last two decades versus anyone. We had 1 10 win season where we won like 5 games by 3 pts (but we won them). But even fsu, when most of the kids we are recruiting were like 10 they strung togehter 5-6 straight ten win seasons. We need to win some ******* games. We have been **** for 2 decades.....theres no defending that.
 
RVACane said:
Sure. We just need some wealthy boosters with lots to lose who are willing to hand over bags of unreported cash and break the law at their own peril so we can have better players.
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I don't see how the ncaa can possibly enforce anything anymore with NIL. Booster gets caught dropping a bag, he can just say "Oops, the NIL contract got lost in the mail. Don't worry, my very expensive lawyer will take care of it."
 
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Gables Canes said:
Can someone catch me up on this one? What are our chances?
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Apparently we’re like in 4th place
 
RVACane said:
Sure. We just need some wealthy boosters with lots to lose who are willing to hand over bags of unreported cash and break the law at their own peril so we can have better players.
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I see the face palm on my post, but since NIL came into existence, what school has been hit with a level 1 recruiting violation for impermissible benefits? Only school that came up when I googled it was Michigan, but that had to do with shenanigans during Covid, not bags. Tennessee had to pay a fine but I don't think they lost a lot of scholarships.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
I see the face palm on my post, but since NIL came into existence, what school has been hit with a level 1 recruiting violation for impermissible benefits? Only school that came up when I googled it was Michigan, but that had to do with shenanigans during Covid, not bags. Tennessee had to pay a fine but I don't think they lost a lot of scholarships.
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Dude we got a year probation because the Cavinder twins had dinner at Ruiz’s house.

K thx.
 
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Im not buying the high school is forcing early commitment ****, I remember edwin joseph last year didn’t commit until after they season. I think if zaquan wanted to wait he would
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
Going to take a stab here that is complete speculation and might rub some of you the wrong way, apologies in advance.

FSU either didn’t do this with Trader, or it was an amount not substantial enough to override his desire to commit to Miami. What that price is, I’m not sure. Now, Patterson has been alleged to be on the receiving end of a substantial pre-enrollment bag (from people on here, and elsewhere).

Miami’s whole push here with kids from the Ravens is to play together again and bring the U back, right? We were told securing commitments of kids like Ryan Mack, Shavers and Frédérique would prove essential stepping stones in securing the main prizes from that baller youth team: Patterson, Trader and Smith. While the aforementioned “stepping stone” recruits aren’t atrocious prospects in their own right, they’re verifiably projects and outside the top 600.

Maybe FSU is so confident they could put-bag us for Patterson or his interest in Miami isn’t as strong as we perceived, and use him to make a run at the true prizes of Ravens’s group. They can sell a future monster secondary with Lester and Bolden + a program on the rise, and by getting Patterson in the boat + already having a presence at Chaminade with Edwin Joseph, that they can convince Trader to think about flipping…if Patterson commits there, now Trader is torn and that’s when FSU comes with the bag. It’s strategic. If those two get in the fold, then the biggest bag of all is thrown at Smith. Now his two dogs are there and you can convince him to entertain a flip. There’s also the negative recruiting aspect of us sucking on the field last 20 years.
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I can't speak on Patterson. I don't see a flip from Trader or any others from the Ravens. I watched an interview with the committed Ravens players that believe were on Canesinsight Live or other YouTube channel. I don't have the link and I'm not going to spend my time finding it. My take is that that Trader and the rest of the Ravens are Canes thru and thru.
 
E1k said:
Im not buying the high school is forcing early commitment ****, I remember edwin joseph last year didn’t commit until after they season. I think if zaquan wanted to wait he would
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He didn't get his big offers until September (Miami and FSU) and October (Michigan and OU) so that's not really the same. Also this could be a new thing coming from their coaches.
 
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moshated305 said:
He didn't get his big offers until September (Miami and FSU) and October (Michigan and OU) so that's not really the same. Also this could be a new thing coming from their coaches.
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Maybe you’re right but i don’t think coaches would force him to commit if he wasn’t ready, what I think it is he wants to take officials during the season and they’re probably against that
 
E1k said:
Maybe you’re right but i don’t think coaches would force him to commit if he wasn’t ready, what I think it is he wants to take officials during the season and they’re probably against that
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Yea I agree that doesn't make sense because Smith is saying he's taking in season visits. Weird situation.
 
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