2024 Zaquan Patterson - Safety, Chaminade

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Oklahoma has 13 seasons of 10+ wins since 2006 and multiple appearances in the CFP. Florida has 7 seasons of 10+ wins and 2 NCs since 2006. Auburn has 4 seasons of 10+ wins and a NC since 2006. Texas A&M only has 1 season of 10+ wins since 2006 but they do have 7 bowl wins.

Miami has 1 season of 10+ wins since 2006 and all of 2 bowl wins. Spin it however you want to, but we don't even measure up to Auburn since 2006 (and they have arguably played a much tougher schedule over that time). These kids haven't seen UM win in their lifetimes
Do the last 10-15 years. Still more relevant than we’ve been but the gator has been slowly slipping towards irrelevance. Unfortunately their recruiting right now, if it holds, will make a big difference.
 
CULTURE

I’m gonna take my swing at what’s been going on here…. I, too, don’t think we’re broke.

What we do have though, is a head coach VERY aware of the ****** culture and destroyed locker room he walked into that we’ve all had the “joy” of watching for two decades now.

Sure, we need dudes…. But if those dudes aren’t playing as one unit, would it even matter? Likely not…

Mario had a ****storm to clean up… as he’s **** near done at this point with regards to our roster turnover and attitudes.

One way to **** it all up? Pay unproven (at the college level…after all, these are still high school kids) players who could walk into said locker room next year and fall flat, or come in with a holier than thou attitude, or a poor, lazy work ethic because they’re being paid. Paid more than current players on the roster who’ve actually bought in and bled/sweat on greentree.

I can’t imagine how I would have treated an incoming freshman being paid more than me on a squad I played on.. particularly if I thought I was better (these are kids, and that’ll likely be the thought process unless they are the rare unicorn like Mauigoa - few and far between). Thus… a destroyed, cancerous locker room.

Using that as my baseline…. I can’t wait to see the implosions at a school like fsu and certainly uf when their seasons don’t go like they think they will. If you aren’t going 11-1, 12-0 doing the **** they’re doing, the likely outcome is a downturn in culture. And we know how that looks/goes…
Lol not to completely discount everything you said, but this is what every gator fan was saying last year while we were kicking their teeth in in recruiting
 
As if Miami doesn't do the same exact thing. Come on, man. You think they show up at Miami purely out of the goodness of their heart? No, it's because they expect the program to be a springboard to greater success and competitiveness at the next level.
Listen man… you (Noles) are doing things with bags up front that I wish we had an answer for. Hopefully for us, we work it out.

Do you (Noles) really think Norvell… and Napier for that matter are all of a sudden recruiting savants who had lightbulbs go on?

We know what’s going on. Sadly for us we have no answer for it. Yet.
 
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Miami’s NIL program sucks. I’m not talking about money. Ruiz’s implosion, while foreseeable, definitely didn’t help. But throwing the keys to him and his sons, as many of us warned, was the root cause of putting us behind the curve. For example, we did next to zero groundwork over the last year to build relationships with key player representatives across the country. That, at a minimum, has severely limited our diligence, imo, likely leading to miscalculations. I’m sure that will be fixed now that adults are taking over.
All the people in my life who are smart financially said Ruiz was a fraud. Seems they were right
 
Listen man… you (Noles) are doing things with bags up front that I wish we had an answer for. Hopefully for us, we work it out.

Do you (Noles) really think Norvell… and Napier for that matter are all of a sudden recruiting savants who had lightbulbs go on?

We know what’s going on. Sadly for use we have no answer for it. Yet.

Preech. Mario was stuffing Billy and Mikey in lockers all recruiting season long last year. And even after the 5-7 **** show we were the #7 portal destination. The unwritten rules on pay-to-play have changed and we're being outmaneuvered at the moment.
 
You don't understand bashing an 80mil HC who's forte is recruiting, struggling to recruit blue-chips (for whatever reason or excuse) is valid? Someone who, should we miss on David Stone, consistently lost every single battle for a defensive line recruit except for Artavius Jones...a guy that no one should feel confident about sticking considering how quickly he became enamored with FSU once they started paying attention (pun intended), and really hasn't fully begun his recruiting process? A HC that's failed to solve our issues at the QB position and retained a questionable DB coach that's getting spanked like a naughty schoolgirl on the recruiting trail this cycle? Someone who's eons behind his two in-state rivals in recruiting at this stage of the game, especially a **** FSU recruiter in Norvell who's laughing at Miami right now and a serious threat to stroll in and snatch Patterson like it took no effort at all?

Enlighten me on where I'm being too harsh. I get it's early, but is there any reason for a modicum of optimism right now? Look at the threads from May/June and now. Is there anything trending in our direction or worth believing in? Where's the big splash? Looks like the meteorologists predicted the wave, but it ended up traveling too far north and landed in Gainesville and Tallahassee.

Do something worthwhile mentioning, and the tune can change considerably. But defending this...whatever is going on...is hilariously asinine, but routine for this fanbase. It's the same wheel of coping y'all fall victim to every single time.

"consistently lost every single battle for a defensive line recruit except for Artavius Jones."

Not taking sides...just point out you forgot Lightfoot and Rudolph.
 
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Oklahoma has 13 seasons of 10+ wins since 2006 and multiple appearances in the CFP. Florida has 7 seasons of 10+ wins and 2 NCs since 2006. Auburn has 4 seasons of 10+ wins and a NC since 2006. Texas A&M only has 1 season of 10+ wins since 2006 but they do have 7 bowl wins.

Miami has 1 season of 10+ wins since 2006 and all of 2 bowl wins. Spin it however you want to, but we don't even measure up to Auburn since 2006 (and they have arguably played a much tougher schedule over that time). These kids haven't seen UM win in their lifetimes
Oh, 7 bowl wins. I see.
 
In a interview he didn’t sound like someone who is afraid to leave home at all, plus i think he’s a fsu fan..mom probably prefers he stays home but what parent doesn’t lol, she’s probably gonna let him decide in the end either way

i dont know about him being an fsu fan.
 
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I never said that I was a noles fan, so I don't know where this is coming from. I also never claimed that Norvell or Napier were some recruiting prodigies, because neither of them are. Norvell was thought of as being FSU's version of Dan Mullen for crying out loud. I just think that conditions change and that the right coaching staff would have been able to stem the bleeding better on the trail this year. That's literally it.
See if you were honest like fans of other teams on here, it would be fine if you’re being civil but you’re lying to me so you can’t be a part of the RVA Mascot Program on CIS.

@joshvalencia1996 check it out - 3 posts and a ban.
 
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See if you were honest like fans of other teams on here, it would be fine if you’re being civil but you’re lying to me so you can’t be a part of the RVA Mascot Program on CIS.

@joshvalencia1996 check it out - 3 posts and a ban.
I get you brother, I checked out the other dudes profile but couldn’t see his porsts only what was in the thread and it didn’t seem egregious. I have no beef with you or anyone I call it like I see it right or wrong and I’m definitely wrong a lot
 
I get you brother, I checked out the other dudes profile but couldn’t see his porsts only what was in the thread and it didn’t seem egregious. I have no beef with you or anyone I call it like I see it right or wrong and I’m definitely wrong a lot
No worries. I’ll dm you
 
I love when you talk dirty like this! Man does it turn me on!!
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