Yearby vs Cook?

[Duval904]

the most dynamic player is ALWAYS better. these arguments are funny. it's like a guy hating on Deion because he lacked in the run support game. lol. dude is the greatest corner of all time.

now you have guys saying "yearby is the better OVERALL back"

lmao

 

[skyman]

Better stats or talent in high school does not mean better talent or stats in college, the same way better talent or stats in college do not mean the same in the NFL.

That is true. But when you have better stats (on the same team), better size, better speed and better athleticism...well, there isn't a whole lot left.

What about the most important factor for a RB - Vision.

I'm really back and forth between these 2 guys. I like them for different roles and different reasons.

I didn't get to see Central play in person this season, but I know that Yearby was moved to QB for a good portion of the season, so that both their backs could impact the game more. Is it possible that Yearby's YPC were lower because a team has to take away the first option (i.e. Yearby who got most carries) before worrying about the second option in the read option they seemed to run some. Yearby certainly did a lot to open up running lanes for Cook.

As you have mentioned you didnt get to see there games, so your assumptions are kinda off. To begin the season Central didnt really have a qb, the first couple games they would move Yearby to that spot when they got down or in the second half. At a certain point they felt more comfortable with the younger qb (keith reed) and his development and rode him the rest of the season at the qb position. Though they did get them in the game at the same time some, Cook had full time duties on defense so his snap count on offense was limited. He would usually come in for Yearby or in the slot. It is just simple as Cook avg is higher because he did more in his limited touches, nothing more or less. Again both great players, just happens they play with each other and the comparisons will continue

 

[jerzeycane]

the most dynamic player is ALWAYS better. these arguments are funny. it's like a guy hating on Deion because he lacked in the run support game. lol. dude is the greatest corner of all time.

now you have guys saying "yearby is the better OVERALL back"

lmao

Huh? Tackling ain't apart of the game bruh? Deion is the best COVER corner, but there are actually instances at corner where the opposition isn't passing the football.

You don't even make no sense right now.

Spiller is more dynamic than Alfred Morris...did you see them this year? Who would you rather have?

 

[skyman]

the most dynamic player is ALWAYS better. these arguments are funny. it's like a guy hating on Deion because he lacked in the run support game. lol. dude is the greatest corner of all time.

now you have guys saying "yearby is the better OVERALL back"

lmao

You aint heard?

All of a suddenly Yearby turned to Frank Gore over night!

 

[mirvin88]

the most dynamic player is ALWAYS better. these arguments are funny. it's like a guy hating on Deion because he lacked in the run support game. lol. dude is the greatest corner of all time.

now you have guys saying "yearby is the better OVERALL back"

lmao

Gio Bernard or Lamar Miller

Go

 

[Duval904]

the most dynamic player is ALWAYS better. these arguments are funny. it's like a guy hating on Deion because he lacked in the run support game. lol. dude is the greatest corner of all time.

now you have guys saying "yearby is the better OVERALL back"

lmao

Gio Bernard or Lamar Miller

Go

miller

 

[jerzeycane]

the most dynamic player is ALWAYS better. these arguments are funny. it's like a guy hating on Deion because he lacked in the run support game. lol. dude is the greatest corner of all time.

now you have guys saying "yearby is the better OVERALL back"

lmao

Gio Bernard or Lamar Miller

Go

miller

****** lulz

 

[Duval904]

the most dynamic player is ALWAYS better. these arguments are funny. it's like a guy hating on Deion because he lacked in the run support game. lol. dude is the greatest corner of all time.

now you have guys saying "yearby is the better OVERALL back"

lmao

Huh? Tackling ain't apart of the game bruh? Deion is the best COVER corner, but there are actually instances at corner where the opposition isn't passing the football.

You don't even make no sense right now.

Spiller is a better playmaker than Alfred Morris...did you see them this year? Who would you rather have?

oh lawd...SMH.

so you'd rather have who over Deion?

and when the subject of best corners come up, you never see them break it down to best cover or whatever

come on man

ask any pro player past or present who is the best CB of all times

 

[Duval904]

spiller in college or gio in college?

 

[gcane44]

the most dynamic player is ALWAYS better. these arguments are funny. it's like a guy hating on Deion because he lacked in the run support game. lol. dude is the greatest corner of all time.

now you have guys saying "yearby is the better OVERALL back"

lmao

You aint heard?

All of a suddenly Yearby turned to Frank Gore over night!

To be fair:

a.) Yearby is not on Frank Gore's level because HS Frank Gore is on his own level

b.) I've been throwing out the Gore comparison since I first heard about Yearby - after his first half of his sophomore season where he was on pace to contend for the single season rushing record, averaging over 200 ypg against one of the toughest schedules a HS team could face to that point (games against Cocoa [state power], BTW, and one of Ohio's top teams in the Herbstreit classic).

It's a comparison of a style of running, not a declaration that Yearby will definitely be a multiple pro bowl RB. I wanted Gio Bernard out of STA, as did many. Now he is a top 2 RB for this upcoming draft. Yearby is pretty similar (but may actually have even better vision).

 

[jerzeycane]

the most dynamic player is ALWAYS better. these arguments are funny. it's like a guy hating on Deion because he lacked in the run support game. lol. dude is the greatest corner of all time.

now you have guys saying "yearby is the better OVERALL back"

lmao

Huh? Tackling ain't apart of the game bruh? Deion is the best COVER corner, but there are actually instances at corner where the opposition isn't passing the football.

You don't even make no sense right now.

Spiller is a better playmaker than Alfred Morris...did you see them this year? Who would you rather have?

oh lawd...SMH.

so you'd rather have who over Deion?

Mel Blount

 

[DMoney]

Better stats or talent in high school does not mean better talent or stats in college, the same way better talent or stats in college do not mean the same in the NFL.

That is true. But when you have better stats (on the same team), better size, better speed and better athleticism...well, there isn't a whole lot left.

What about the most important factor for a RB - Vision

The thing is, I think Cook has great vision as well. You know this better than I do, but you can't dominate that caliber of competition on pure athleticism. Cook sees daylight first, and then has to speed to pull away.

If Yearby was more of a pinball-type tackle breaker, I'd feel better about his lack of speed. But Cook was actually harder to bring down in the three games I saw this year. The Grayson game (GA school) is what scared me re: Yearby's star potential. The whole team looked overmatched, including Cook, but Yearby really struggled with their size and discipline.

Yearby's big advantage over Cook, IMO, is his overall efficiency of movement. But I don't see that closing the gap in physical gifts, especially considering that Yearby may have plateaued a bit and Cook continues to make leaps.

 

[Duval904]

the most dynamic player is ALWAYS better. these arguments are funny. it's like a guy hating on Deion because he lacked in the run support game. lol. dude is the greatest corner of all time.

now you have guys saying "yearby is the better OVERALL back"

lmao

Huh? Tackling ain't apart of the game bruh? Deion is the best COVER corner, but there are actually instances at corner where the opposition isn't passing the football.

You don't even make no sense right now.

Spiller is a better playmaker than Alfred Morris...did you see them this year? Who would you rather have?

oh lawd...SMH.

so you'd rather have who over Deion?

Mel Blount

BHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[jerzeycane]

spiller in college or gio in college?

Dude we can do this all day.

Spiller or Ingram?

 

[Duval904]

spiller in college or gio in college?

Dude we can do this all day.

Spiller or Ingram?

man come on, at least make it difficult

SPILLER.....he was a legit homerun threat every time he touched the ball AND he returned punts and kicks

FIRE

 

[jerzeycane]

Mel Blount

BHAHAHAHAHAHA

Blount had 57 picks in 14 seasons and Deion had 53 in 17 seasons

Deion played in more of a passing era and Blount was far better in run support...but keep laughing stupid lol

 

[Duval904]

Mel Blount

BHAHAHAHAHAHA

Blount had 57 picks in 14 seasons and Deion had 53 in 17 seasons

Deion played in more of a passing era and Blount was far better in run support...but keep laughing stupid lol

BHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this dude would rather have Blount BHAHAHAH

nevermind the 22 touchdowns Deion had BHAHAHAHAH

nevermind his impact in the return game and on offense BHAHAHHA

BHAHAHAHAHAH...let me guess?? ray lewis over lawrence taylor, right??

BHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[gcane44]

Better stats or talent in high school does not mean better talent or stats in college, the same way better talent or stats in college do not mean the same in the NFL.

That is true. But when you have better stats (on the same team), better size, better speed and better athleticism...well, there isn't a whole lot left.

What about the most important factor for a RB - Vision

The thing is, I think Cook has great vision as well. You know this better than I do, but you can't dominate that caliber of competition on pure athleticism. Cook sees daylight first, and then has to speed to pull away.

If Yearby was more of a pinball-type tackle breaker, I'd feel better about his lack of speed. But Cook was actually harder to bring down in the three games I saw this year. The Grayson game (GA school) is what scared me re: Yearby's star potential. The whole team looked overmatched, including Cook, but Yearby really struggled with their size and discipline.

Yearby's big advantage over Cook, IMO, is his overall efficiency of movement. But I don't see that closing the gap in physical gifts, especially considering that Yearby may have plateaued a bit and Cook continues to make leaps.

I def agree that Cook has special burst and some more physicality. It's tough for me to pick one over the other (I used to be all over the Yearby bandwagon, then saw Cook's midseason jr highlights and was all about Cook, now I'm kind of lost lol) because they just operate in different ways and should/would be utilized in different ways.

Efficiency is a great way to put it for Yearby. If the OL can consistently give him some semblance of seams to run through, he will drive you all the way down the field and no one can downplay the value/importance of that type of dependability.

Cook is lightning in a bottle. I think he has enough vision to exploit his talents, but not close to Yearby's level (granted this is all based on my watching a few full games from their sophomore years and just their junior highlights). A team dependent on Cook as the main ballcarrier at the college level will IMO be a lot like how we were with Lamar Miller his JR year - not consistently moving the ball but almost always getting a few huge plays and TDs a game.

 

[fastcane]

Mark Ingram couldn't juke my grand mother, totally different type of backs. I doubt Ingram could keep up with Yearby too. Watched Ingram many times, his back up was better than him the first day he hit the field. Ingram had the best line in football to run behind. Heisman my *** he was over rated, now it comes out in the pro's. Yearby will never be that type of back.


I really don't get this lack of speed stuff? I admit I haven't seen him in person but on his short film nobody ran him down from behind, not once. Are you saying his off tape runs he slows down? These are Dade county kids that he is out running. Cook could probably out run Duke, but he couldn't hold his jock strap. Cook will not out run kids like he does in HS, he better bring something else to the table. If I had to pick one for college at this point I'd take Yearby at the rb position, I'm just not seeing Yearby's speed being a problem. Respectfully, lol!

I'm hoping both backs get closer to the same carries this year. I think the YPC will be closer too. I don't think Cook comes here to play, he would be red shirted next year unless he was brought in for trick plays.. JMO.

Good post, ChrisArg. As you touched on, Yearby is an extremely efficient runner who doesn't need to gear down or use a ton of space to cut.

My biggest issue with him is size. From when I've watched him live or on TV, he's never looked particular stocky or strong. The good runners of Yearby's "type" are often built like tree trunks. If he can bulk up to the size of a Mark Ingram, then he can be that type of runner. But that remains to be seen. If he doesn't put on that much more weight, his lack of speed becomes a greater concern.

 

[jerzeycane]

spiller in college or gio in college?

Dude we can do this all day.

Spiller or Ingram?

man come on, at least make it difficult

SPILLER.....he was a legit homerun threat every time he touched the ball AND he returned punts and kicks

FIRE

And? He was also a threat to not show up to a game. Guys like Spiller are in the same vain as DeSean Jackson. They make the defense pay the ultimate price for a mistake, but against good disciplined defenses, they are no where to be found.