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Would you Move on from Mario if Given the Chance?

Would you move on from Mario given the assumptions described?

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JamesQuall said:
Are we though? Our NIL may be but it was that way in 22 & 23 as well.

This year we were top 15 but Cam Ward especially, Damian Martinez, Xavier Restrepo, Elijah Arroyo, Jacolby George, and Isiah Horton are the main reason we were top 15. All of these athletes are gone.

What makes you think we're a top 10-15 program?

I would argue we will be well outside the top 30 next year unless we get a very reliable QB soon.
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No other teams lose their best players to graduation and the NFL?
 
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More relevant question is what gets Mario fired next year in your opinion?

7-5? 6-6? 5-7?

He gets another 2 years regardless?

He goes 11-1 and gets us into the playoffs?
 
BS85 said:
Just curious how many people would hit a reset at head coach RIGHT NOW if they could. Here are the only assumptions (I know they aren't realistic):

1) There is no buyout, basically we get the Mark Richt deal
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2) The financial support from the school does not change
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IF #2 is 100% true..This would be make or break year for him imo. Wouldn’t fire him after this year and the two classes he brought in prior to this one

I would finally have a full national scale coaching search conducted by an outside perspective.

This truly depends on what people think the standard should be for Miami in this era
 
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itsdolphhh said:
You all just witnessed Mario's peak as the head coach of the University of Miami. He has done nothing or given us hope that he will be any better. He will never have a QB as good as Cam Ward ever again.

If y'all think this season was a success & are down for more years of this, then be my guest.
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Beating Ohio State & winning 12 games at Oregon.
 
“Who would we replace him with”

This being a real question just represents how battered we are. This what happens when u only hire guys with miami ties lol. Who was deboer before UW hired him? Did everyone think lanning would be great? Was heupel great? Did anyone mention Indiana HC?

And for the people who say “no one will love the program like mario”

Did jimmy,dennis,howard love miami like mario? Did saban love bama more than mario loved miami? Did dabo love clemson more than mario loved miami? Its either you’re great or not if you can do the job or not, save the extra **** for your life story book
 
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Alex_Dynamix said:
I wanna make it clear my post was pure sarcasm but that's all i see on this board is ppl putting on their cape for Lame Kiffin as if dude hasn't underacheived at every stop...man had a loaded roster this year, proceeds to blow it as asual while whining and *****ing about his schedule but Canes fans are convinced he'll lead us back to glory its stupid af. All this talk about repacing Mario but no realistic options to lead us back to National Championships.
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I knew it was sarcasm brother. That's why I said yeah there's idiots everywhere. These geniuses swear we should be running around like a scorned side ***** chasing after lil lane & his adventures on the tarmac. Such bright individuals
 
I envision Mario succeeding here in a manner similar to Jim Harbaugh, James Franklin, and Dabo Swinney. So, no.

Even getting to the playoffs, like Mark Helfrich and Gus Malzahn doesn’t mean enduring success. Helfrich isn’t even coaching anymore. Chip Kelly, like Malzahn, ran from the grind of being a HC.

Gene Chizik and Ed Oregron won chips then were fired shortly after.

Many LSU fans thought Brian Kelly would have them back in the playoffs by now, and he is off to a much worse start than Les Miles’ first few LSU years. Prototypical “great coach” Lincoln Riley is struggling in a new environment. So is his OU replacement.

I’ll take Mario over excuse makers like Kiffin or potentially disastrous “rising” coaches like Herman.

Take a look around college football, the top 25 is full of former Saban assistants as HCs. I take solace in that our guy already won 73% of his games a P5 HC before his tenure here.

He has significant experience recruiting all across the country, has beaten OSU before, specializes in the trenches — that toughness spreads to the rest of the program, coached scores of current players in the NFL unlike two of our last three coaches, two conference championships in the PAC12, knows the in’s and out’s of our 20+ years of success, is a tireless worker, respected in south Florida, and I’ve never heard him bxtch about the new absurd atmosphere of college sports.

Goliath is gone, and only two (soon to be three) current head coaches have chips. I still love our bet on Mario moving forward.
 
E1k said:
“Who would we replace him with”

This being a real question just represents how battered we are. This what happens when u only hire guys with miami ties lol. Who was deboer before UW hired him? Did everyone think lanning would be great? Was heupel great? Did anyone mention Indiana HC?

And for the people who say “no one will love the program like mario”

Did jimmy,dennis,howard love miami like mario? Did saban love bama more than mario loved miami? Did dabo love clemson more than mario loved miami? Its either you’re great or not if you can do the job or not, save the extra **** for your life story book
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Can we at least see them sustain their success for a bit longer before crowning them? Dave Aranda and Mel Tucker were the new wave not too long ago. Mike Novell looks like a scrub once again.

The same program that hired Deboer hired former Miami OC Jedd Fisch and Jimmy Lake. Sometimes you hire Josh Heupel, sometimes you hire Scott Frost or Billy Napier. Bryan Harsin crashed out at Auburn. Not an exact science plucking coaches from smaller schools, or winning defensive coordinators like Muschamp, Lanning, & Venerables.

Ed O’s love for LSU football is going in that program’s life story book. Sark was 34-29 at WU before crashing out at USC. Now he is in the final four at a program that struggled for a dozen years.

Dabo was called a corch on here before Clemson broke thru with Watson — that didn’t happen until year 8/9. He was literally branded the same way OP branded Mario — great recruiter, poor coach.
 
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I don’t think Mario is the long term answer but who knows I could be wrong. But it does take most coaches time to win. Now these guys are far superior coaches but the point remains. Harbaugh was at mich 9 years and didn’t win until his 9th year.

Kirby has been at uga 9 years now. He won the chip his 6th year. Now Kirby did have uga in the NC game his 2nd year but that was with a lot of guys richt had recruited

Dabo been at Clemson 17 years. They played for the nc in year 8 but lost. They went back and won the next year in his 9th season.

This is Franklin 11th year at psu and it’s his best season. He has a shot to break through

Day is in his 7th year at osu and unfortunately looks like he might have a shot to break through this year

Unless you saban, or you get lucky like chizik and coach O and end up with cam or burrow, it usually takes about 7-8 years. I don’t think this fan base has that type of patience
 
cookies said:
Can we at least see them sustain their success for a bit longer before crowning them? Dave Aranda and Mel Tucker were the new wave not too long ago. Mike Novell looks like a scrub once again.

The same program that hired Deboer hired former Miami OC Jedd Fisch and Jimmy Lake. Sometimes you hire Josh Heupel, sometimes you hire Scott Frost or Billy Napier. Bryan Harsin crashed out at Auburn. Not an exact science plucking coaches from smaller schools, or winning defensive coordinators like Muschamp, Lanning, & Venerables.

Ed O’s love for LSU football is going in that program’s life story book. Sark was 34-29 at WU before crashing out at USC. Now he is in the final four at a program that struggled for a dozen years.

Dabo was called a corch on here before Clemson broke thru with Watson — that didn’t happen until year 8/9. He was literally branded the same way OP branded Mario — great recruiter, poor coach.
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Beautiful post. All the crowning of guys and little to no substance or track record behind it.
There are some big names guys you mentioned out there that are now “has beens” once considered sure hits.
I would have bet my left nut on a lot of the guys you mentioned being successful and here we are.
**** the last three gator coaches, one is at UNLV, one is an analyst at UGA and the other one lives in a shed behind the gas station fixing lawnmowers. Mmmm…
 
Unrealistic question, I had to change my vote. The biggest plus with Mario is the financial support. It's unrealistic to think that this university and booster staff would support any other coach as much as they support him (financially). They'd have to do it before I believe it. If you take Mario off our head, you have to assume the funding would drop in some shape or form. Money is the best trait for a coach these days, whether that's hiring better coordinators, position coaches, or players.
 
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252cane said:
I don’t think Mario is the long term answer but who knows I could be wrong. But it does take most coaches time to win. Now these guys are far superior coaches but the point remains. Harbaugh was at mich 9 years and didn’t win until his 9th year.

Kirby has been at uga 9 years now. He won the chip his 6th year. Now Kirby did have uga in the NC game his 2nd year but that was with a lot of guys richt had recruited

Dabo been at Clemson 17 years. They played for the nc in year 8 but lost. They went back and won the next year in his 9th season.

This is Franklin 11th year at psu and it’s his best season. He has a shot to break through

Day is in his 7th year at osu and unfortunately looks like he might have a shot to break through this year

Unless you saban, or you get lucky like chizik and coach O and end up with cam or burrow, it usually takes about 7-8 years. I don’t think this fan base has that type of patience
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I voted yes. I’d happily eat my words if the ship is turned around…

Yes, it takes time for guys to win the championship, which I don’t believe is what we’re all searching for at this point. I believe most fans want a consistent solid, disciplined, and prepared team week in week out.

My question is, what about what MC has done is trending up? Even with a loaded roster, it’s going to be a struggle to win the conference because some way some how, we will definitely be out coached, out schemed, and out played at LEAST three times a season by a lesser opponent. We have yet to field a complete team or coaching staff.

Mario isn’t a first time head coach. If you truly understand coaching and philosophies you know what your eyes tell you about this program…What is our philosophy and identity? What do we do well as a team year in year out? What are we known for?

22-16 for $8 Mil is a steal for somebody and it ain’t UM…
 
Who else are we going to get? Who else would have this financial support?

Wait two years with the same results and both of those questions will be answered. Mario is not a unicorn.
 
ThomasM said:
As much as I hate FSU, Bobby Bowden made a **** of a good point once. He said that if a head coach is known as a great recruiter, it's because he could recruit, but wasn't that great of a coach. Whereas if you're a great coach who is also a great recruiter, you are known as a great coach.

Mario is known as a great recruiter. Problem is, NIL has made that skill less important, and the actual coaching aspect far more important. So yes, I would consider moving on.

That being said, I would give him one more season. Yeah, I think Cam Ward was the reason we got to 10 wins, but Mario did get him in here, and let him sling it. I expect a big step back next year, but I'd have to see it before running Mario off. We were what, 10 points from being undefeated? I mean that's improvement.

One more year. It pains me to say that, but 10-2, I don't even count the bowl game we would have won had Cam played the second half, is progress. If there's no progress next year, it's time to move on.
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Profound take
 
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cookies said:
Can we at least see them sustain their success for a bit longer before crowning them? Dave Aranda and Mel Tucker were the new wave not too long ago. Mike Novell looks like a scrub once again.

The same program that hired Deboer hired former Miami OC Jedd Fisch and Jimmy Lake. Sometimes you hire Josh Heupel, sometimes you hire Scott Frost or Billy Napier. Bryan Harsin crashed out at Auburn. Not an exact science plucking coaches from smaller schools, or winning defensive coordinators like Muschamp, Lanning, & Venerables.

Ed O’s love for LSU football is going in that program’s life story book. Sark was 34-29 at WU before crashing out at USC. Now he is in the final four at a program that struggled for a dozen years.

Dabo was called a corch on here before Clemson broke thru with Watson — that didn’t happen until year 8/9. He was literally branded the same way OP branded Mario — great recruiter, poor coach.
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I agree but im just saying we can find good coaches if we actually wanted to. Im not crowning them, im only bringing them up to point out coaches at programs doing well who had no ties to the program.

People using this mario loves Miami more than anyone as if that gives him extra coaching superpowers

And literally everyone is a corch on here until they have big success or win a natty lmao, i dont like dabo but if i was on here i would have never called him a corch. People still say kirby is a corch lmao, they say day is a corch. This board ***** on all coaches
 
Great recruiter
Comes with great ol recruiting and development
No visible development elsewhere
Bad game management
Cannot seem to hire a complete “SEC” type of staff. When we had Gattis, strong, etc, on paper that looked great. Was a **** show.


I’m moving on if my mission is to bring in a Mario type recruiter that can hire a great staff.
 
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