Without Cam Ward…

[cway313]

Weird how it didn’t take Deion 5 years to fix the worst team in the country and that he did it with the portal and not high school

It's easy when you don't have Mannys players.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

It's easy when you don't have Mannys players.

Manny’s players are way worse than the ones who made up the worst team in P5.

 

[Canedude08]

Still do. Give it time.

These jocksniffers forget that Deion is riding a QB he has a direct tie to and a generational two way player that worships him to a 6-2 record in a mediocre Big XII. Keep in mind , Deion has never had to replace his son as a college coach, good luck finding another Travis Hunter in the portal.

You really think a program that has had HS recruiting rankings in the twenties(at best) will magically reload? Never mind the fact that we've seen time and time again that programs that rely too much on the portal are a couple of bad evals away from things coming apart. FSU, Michigan State under Mel Tucker, the list goes on.

 

[tdjones34]

Weird how it didn’t take Deion 5 years to fix the worst team in the country and that he did it with the portal and not high school

so did Norvall

 

[CanesFan20]

I remember when cis laughed at Deion roster building.

Get back to me this time next year when Colorado is like 3-7 without Shaduer and Travis

 

[cway313]

Get back to me this time next year when Colorado is like 3-7 without Shaduer and Travis

I don't throw stones from a glass house.

 

[CanesFan20]

I don't throw stones from a glass house.

Our foundation without Cam will be significantly better than Colorado.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

so did Norvall

Norvell might as well be Mario. Same trajectory. Only good with a good QB. At least Norvell got an ACC title out of it

 

[tdjones34]

Norvell might as well be Mario. Same trajectory. Only good with a good QB. At least Norvell got an ACC title out of it

not even close. I know everyone is overly emotional today, but Norvall put a band aide on it, Mario is building a real team, he went out and got Cam to make it look better, but good things that last take time.
never wanted a 1-year run, I want a program that can compete for a long time.

2026 -2027 was always the realistic time frame

 

[JZCane0825]

Norvell might as well be Mario. Same trajectory. Only good with a good QB. At least Norvell got an ACC title out of it

Name a program where this isn't true

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Name a program where this isn't true

Good QB isn’t fair. Travis was a top 5 QB in the country.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

not even close. I know everyone is overly emotional today, but Norvall put a band aide on it, Mario is building a real team, he went out and got Cam to make it look better, but good things that last take time.
never wanted a 1-year run, I want a program that can compete for a long time.

2026 -2027 was always the realistic time frame

Norvell had a 2 year run. And I’ll say again, Mario hasn’t built anything. Cam Ward is the band aid the same way Jordan Travis was.

 

[tdjones34]

Norvell had a 2 year run. And I’ll say again, Mario hasn’t built anything. Cam Ward is the band aid the same way Jordan Travis was.

2 year?
they went 9-4 the 1st year

we are 9-1

 

[NC_Canes_11]

2 year?
they went 9-4 the 1st year

we are 9-1

10-3
13-1

 

[tdjones34]

10-3
13-1

you are correct 10-3 not 9-4
still worse than us this year.

they didnt build anything, and now have 1 win

2 ways to rebuild, they went all in on quick fix and now suck, we are building a real program

 

[NC_Canes_11]

you are correct 10-3 not 9-4
still worse than us this year.

they didnt build anything, and now have 1 win

2 ways to rebuild, they went all in on quick fix and now suck, we are building a real program

No you hope Mario is building a program. What I’ve seen doesn’t show anything other than Cam Ward bailing his *** out every Saturday. Until proven otherwise they’re the same coach. Under .500 at their current schools without elite college QBs

3-6
5-7
10-3
13-1

5-7
7-6
9-1

 

[cway313]

Our foundation without Cam will be significantly better than Colorado.

This is baseless bull****. Take care guy.

 

[tdjones34]

No you hope Mario is building a program. What I’ve seen doesn’t show anything other than Cam Ward bailing his *** out every Saturday. Until proven otherwise they’re the same coach. Under .500 at their current schools without elite college QBs

3-6
5-7
10-3
13-1

5-7
7-6
9-1

so he walked into a dumpster fire and outperformed Mike the 1st 3 years while recruiting for the future.
Hes 100x better than Mike,

 

[brock]

Y’all say this but cam hasn’t been perfect either

 

[NC_Canes_11]

so he walked into a dumpster fire and outperformed Mike the 1st 3 years while recruiting for the future.
Hes 100x better than Mike,

Mario walked into a team that had performed better than FSU for the couple years before he got the job and before Mike got the job.

This whole “dumpster fire” narrative is made up bc y’all excuse everything Mario does that is subpar and wanna blame anybody but him.