Wiltfong On Campbell

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Things more important right now:

1. Improving the DL depth
2. A competent 10th coach
3. LB recruiting
4. Signing one more OT
5. Getting Perry ready for the spring

Campbell is the best prosect in the nation at his position, but he is a want, not a need atm. Please please please guys, just let his recruitment play out, bc those tears might be better reserved for more pressing matters that may not be addressed.

Did you watch any games this season? Outside of Johnson and Bandy, our Secondary sucks. Campbell is definitely a need and arguably the most important recruit left for more reasons than one. Losing elite SF kids gets you fired at Miami. It’s that simple.

Okay. So how would you rate our DB class wo Campbell? Im not sure how anyone can say we didnt address our secondary issues already w an A1 haul. Do youdisagree w that assessment?

Regarding Bethel, hes not a plan D guy. He got his offer regardless of what Campbell was going to do. He and his handlers just played themselves.

Nobodys saying losing Campbell is a good thing, and it would be a certified embarrassment, but man we clearly have bigger issues to address right now.

We have a class with great safeties but with question marks at corner, Ivey will probably need a RS so that leaves just blades need Campbell to come in and compliment blades
 
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Fair enough, but we already have one of the best db classes in the nation signed. TC just takes it to another level, but the need has been addressed.

Naw the needs haven't been addressed, after next year we will be thin depth wise at the DB position, he is a absolute need

Huh? Malek, Trajan, D. Smith, Amari, Blades, Ivey, Gil, Gurvan will all be back in 2019. Plus the 2019 class will all be here after next year.

Tyson is a need in terms of adding elite talent to be an elite team. Not for depth purposes.

You legit just put three corners in that list and one of which will probably need a RS coming in, so you good with just three corners and putting safeties on wideouts? Come on now

So you think Blades and Frierson are both going to play safety?

I think they both end up at CB. 5 quality cornerbacks and 3 safeties is about the average for the best teams in the nation, aside for Bama.

Again, plus the 2019 class. If they bring in another 4-5 like this year, we will be fine depth wise.

First off you banking that we are going to get a top kid next cycle? There ain't no guarantees in recruiting get the talent when you can

Second frierson is a safety all the way he ain't a corner, and I wouldn't be surprised if blades moves there too

Also about your list what if malek balls out and dips? What then? We will be hoping for a transfer to come in to help with the depth

Campbell is a need no way for anyone to try to spin it otherwise
 
I think Ivey is the best of the group and probably gets more immediate PT than anyone else coming in. Criminally slept on prospect.
 
Naw the needs haven't been addressed, after next year we will be thin depth wise at the DB position, he is a absolute need

Huh? Malek, Trajan, D. Smith, Amari, Blades, Ivey, Gil, Gurvan will all be back in 2019. Plus the 2019 class will all be here after next year.

Tyson is a need in terms of adding elite talent to be an elite team. Not for depth purposes.

You legit just put three corners in that list and one of which will probably need a RS coming in, so you good with just three corners and putting safeties on wideouts? Come on now

So you think Blades and Frierson are both going to play safety?

I think they both end up at CB. 5 quality cornerbacks and 3 safeties is about the average for the best teams in the nation, aside for Bama.

Again, plus the 2019 class. If they bring in another 4-5 like this year, we will be fine depth wise.

First off you banking that we are going to get a top kid next cycle? There ain't no guarantees in recruiting get the talent when you can

Second frierson is a safety all the way he ain't a corner, and I wouldn't be surprised if blades moves there too

Also about your list what if malek balls out and dips? What then? We will be hoping for a transfer to come in to help with the depth

Campbell is a need no way for anyone to try to spin it otherwise

You're calling me out for banking on things while you are literally banking on all of the worst possible scenarios, but I'll address all your points with viable alternatives so you stop ****ing yourself of nerves.

Where did I say we are going to get a top kid? I said 4-5. As in 4-5 guys. Just like this year where we've already signed four and I bet a fifth comes whether it's Campbell or not.

Frierson wants to be a CB. Pete said the staff wants to give him a shot at CB. Maybe his ceiling is higher at safety, but if we need CBs he can play there.

Malek dipping would mean the freshmen come in and absolutely ball TF out, forcing him to seek PT. Kind of kills your point about Ivey not being ready and Blades playing safety.

I didn't spin it. We need Campbell for exactly what I said. Elite talent in the secondary. Depth will be fine. But we do NEED his talent.
 
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And Rattler has said for months that he knows Miami is home, and the benefits of that. **** Ty said he has an idea just a few weeks ago, but wants to take visits to confirm that idea.

Read between the lines and let the kid go through the process.
 
I think Ivey is the best of the group and probably gets more immediate PT than anyone else coming in. Criminally slept on prospect.

He needs a RS IMO and probably will get one regardless if Campbell comes or not he needs to work on some things
Hes legit as they come. I dont see a RS in his future. **** pick up the Defense faster than anyone coming in, and his technique is elite. We will see. He def needs to add some bulk, I will say that.
 
Huh? Malek, Trajan, D. Smith, Amari, Blades, Ivey, Gil, Gurvan will all be back in 2019. Plus the 2019 class will all be here after next year.

Tyson is a need in terms of adding elite talent to be an elite team. Not for depth purposes.

You legit just put three corners in that list and one of which will probably need a RS coming in, so you good with just three corners and putting safeties on wideouts? Come on now

So you think Blades and Frierson are both going to play safety?

I think they both end up at CB. 5 quality cornerbacks and 3 safeties is about the average for the best teams in the nation, aside for Bama.

Again, plus the 2019 class. If they bring in another 4-5 like this year, we will be fine depth wise.

First off you banking that we are going to get a top kid next cycle? There ain't no guarantees in recruiting get the talent when you can

Second frierson is a safety all the way he ain't a corner, and I wouldn't be surprised if blades moves there too

Also about your list what if malek balls out and dips? What then? We will be hoping for a transfer to come in to help with the depth

Campbell is a need no way for anyone to try to spin it otherwise

You're calling me out for banking on things while you are literally banking on all of the worst possible scenarios, but I'll address all your points with viable alternatives so you stop ****ing yourself of nerves.

Where did I say we are going to get a top kid? I said 4-5. As in 4-5 guys. Just like this year where we've already signed four and I bet a fifth comes whether it's Campbell or not.

Frierson wants to be a CB. Pete said the staff wants to give him a shot at CB. Maybe his ceiling is higher at safety, but if we need CBs he can play there.

Malek dipping would mean the freshmen come in and absolutely ball TF out, forcing him to seek PT. Kind of kills your point about Ivey not being ready and Blades playing safety.

I didn't spin it. We need Campbell for exactly what I said. Elite talent in the secondary. Depth will be fine. But we do NEED his talent.

Holy sh¡t you are delusional lemme counter here

So your first point about getting kids next cycle, you don't want elite kids? You just want bodies to fill for depth? You need to stack chips to win not just get kids just to get kids

Frierson is a safety staff will see that when he gets on campus, but you just wanna throw him at corner because we messed up recruiting corners? Yea that isn't going to end well

I think you think I meant malek is going to transfer I meant dip for the NFL, but regardless he won't be here and that still doesn't help you with your depth argument

Like I said we NEED Campbell
 
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I doubt Ivey will redshirt, he's an EE and already has good size.
 
You legit just put three corners in that list and one of which will probably need a RS coming in, so you good with just three corners and putting safeties on wideouts? Come on now

So you think Blades and Frierson are both going to play safety?

I think they both end up at CB. 5 quality cornerbacks and 3 safeties is about the average for the best teams in the nation, aside for Bama.

Again, plus the 2019 class. If they bring in another 4-5 like this year, we will be fine depth wise.

First off you banking that we are going to get a top kid next cycle? There ain't no guarantees in recruiting get the talent when you can

Second frierson is a safety all the way he ain't a corner, and I wouldn't be surprised if blades moves there too

Also about your list what if malek balls out and dips? What then? We will be hoping for a transfer to come in to help with the depth

Campbell is a need no way for anyone to try to spin it otherwise

You're calling me out for banking on things while you are literally banking on all of the worst possible scenarios, but I'll address all your points with viable alternatives so you stop ****ing yourself of nerves.

Where did I say we are going to get a top kid? I said 4-5. As in 4-5 guys. Just like this year where we've already signed four and I bet a fifth comes whether it's Campbell or not.

Frierson wants to be a CB. Pete said the staff wants to give him a shot at CB. Maybe his ceiling is higher at safety, but if we need CBs he can play there.

Malek dipping would mean the freshmen come in and absolutely ball TF out, forcing him to seek PT. Kind of kills your point about Ivey not being ready and Blades playing safety.

I didn't spin it. We need Campbell for exactly what I said. Elite talent in the secondary. Depth will be fine. But we do NEED his talent.

Holy sh¡t you are delusional lemme counter here

So your first point about getting kids next cycle, you don't want elite kids? You just want bodies to fill for depth? You need to stack chips to win not just get kids just to get kids

Frierson is a safety staff will see that when he gets on campus, but you just wanna throw him at corner because we messed up recruiting corners? Yea that isn't going to end well

I think you think I meant malek is going to transfer I meant dip for the NFL, but regardless he won't be here and that still doesn't help you with your depth argument

Like I said we NEED Campbell

You're putting words into my mouth again.

I want elite kids. You're original point was about basic overall depth and how we won't have enough guys in the secondary. Not about enough elite kids. If it were about enough elite kids, I'd have agreed with you from the start.

Frierson wants to be put at CB. Coaches are open to it. Me and you don't get any say in the matter, obviously. Go off what Pete relays and what the recruit says.

Malek ain't going to the NFL early. I hope he does, cause again that would mean he balled TF out next year. But he's too short to go early based off hope or projection.

And like I said, I agree we NEED Campbell. For talent purposes.
 
So you think Blades and Frierson are both going to play safety?

I think they both end up at CB. 5 quality cornerbacks and 3 safeties is about the average for the best teams in the nation, aside for Bama.

Again, plus the 2019 class. If they bring in another 4-5 like this year, we will be fine depth wise.

First off you banking that we are going to get a top kid next cycle? There ain't no guarantees in recruiting get the talent when you can

Second frierson is a safety all the way he ain't a corner, and I wouldn't be surprised if blades moves there too

Also about your list what if malek balls out and dips? What then? We will be hoping for a transfer to come in to help with the depth

Campbell is a need no way for anyone to try to spin it otherwise

You're calling me out for banking on things while you are literally banking on all of the worst possible scenarios, but I'll address all your points with viable alternatives so you stop ****ing yourself of nerves.

Where did I say we are going to get a top kid? I said 4-5. As in 4-5 guys. Just like this year where we've already signed four and I bet a fifth comes whether it's Campbell or not.

Frierson wants to be a CB. Pete said the staff wants to give him a shot at CB. Maybe his ceiling is higher at safety, but if we need CBs he can play there.

Malek dipping would mean the freshmen come in and absolutely ball TF out, forcing him to seek PT. Kind of kills your point about Ivey not being ready and Blades playing safety.

I didn't spin it. We need Campbell for exactly what I said. Elite talent in the secondary. Depth will be fine. But we do NEED his talent.

Holy sh¡t you are delusional lemme counter here

So your first point about getting kids next cycle, you don't want elite kids? You just want bodies to fill for depth? You need to stack chips to win not just get kids just to get kids

Frierson is a safety staff will see that when he gets on campus, but you just wanna throw him at corner because we messed up recruiting corners? Yea that isn't going to end well

I think you think I meant malek is going to transfer I meant dip for the NFL, but regardless he won't be here and that still doesn't help you with your depth argument

Like I said we NEED Campbell

You're putting words into my mouth again.

I want elite kids. You're original point was about basic overall depth and how we won't have enough guys in the secondary. Not about enough elite kids. If it were about enough elite kids, I'd have agreed with you from the start.

Frierson wants to be put at CB. Coaches are open to it. Me and you don't get any say in the matter, obviously. Go off what Pete relays and what the recruit says.

Malek ain't going to the NFL early. I hope he does, cause again that would mean he balled TF out next year. But he's too short to go early based off hope or projection.

And like I said, I agree we NEED Campbell. For talent purposes.

SMH

Not putting words in your mouth just going by what you posted

Who cares what the coaches think or what is being posted frierson is a safety everyone knows this

And again noting you said has countered my argument with malek dipping on the depth except for your "well next class" BS that's some goldenesque stuff, can't always bank on that nothing is guaranteed in recruiting
 
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First off you banking that we are going to get a top kid next cycle? There ain't no guarantees in recruiting get the talent when you can

Second frierson is a safety all the way he ain't a corner, and I wouldn't be surprised if blades moves there too

Also about your list what if malek balls out and dips? What then? We will be hoping for a transfer to come in to help with the depth

Campbell is a need no way for anyone to try to spin it otherwise

You're calling me out for banking on things while you are literally banking on all of the worst possible scenarios, but I'll address all your points with viable alternatives so you stop ****ing yourself of nerves.

Where did I say we are going to get a top kid? I said 4-5. As in 4-5 guys. Just like this year where we've already signed four and I bet a fifth comes whether it's Campbell or not.

Frierson wants to be a CB. Pete said the staff wants to give him a shot at CB. Maybe his ceiling is higher at safety, but if we need CBs he can play there.

Malek dipping would mean the freshmen come in and absolutely ball TF out, forcing him to seek PT. Kind of kills your point about Ivey not being ready and Blades playing safety.

I didn't spin it. We need Campbell for exactly what I said. Elite talent in the secondary. Depth will be fine. But we do NEED his talent.

Holy sh¡t you are delusional lemme counter here

So your first point about getting kids next cycle, you don't want elite kids? You just want bodies to fill for depth? You need to stack chips to win not just get kids just to get kids

Frierson is a safety staff will see that when he gets on campus, but you just wanna throw him at corner because we messed up recruiting corners? Yea that isn't going to end well

I think you think I meant malek is going to transfer I meant dip for the NFL, but regardless he won't be here and that still doesn't help you with your depth argument

Like I said we NEED Campbell

You're putting words into my mouth again.

I want elite kids. You're original point was about basic overall depth and how we won't have enough guys in the secondary. Not about enough elite kids. If it were about enough elite kids, I'd have agreed with you from the start.

Frierson wants to be put at CB. Coaches are open to it. Me and you don't get any say in the matter, obviously. Go off what Pete relays and what the recruit says.

Malek ain't going to the NFL early. I hope he does, cause again that would mean he balled TF out next year. But he's too short to go early based off hope or projection.

And like I said, I agree we NEED Campbell. For talent purposes.

SMH

Not putting words in your mouth just going by what you posted

Who cares what the coaches think or what is being posted frierson is a safety everyone knows this

And again noting you said has countered my argument with malek dipping on the depth except for your "well next class" BS that's some goldenesque stuff, can't always bank on that nothing is guaranteed in recruiting


I got some news for you dog. If the coaches want Frierson at CB, he's gonna play CB. They ain't on here trying to appease Cane Since Birth and his outstanding football acumen that has led to a prestigious position as Canesinsight poster.
 
You're calling me out for banking on things while you are literally banking on all of the worst possible scenarios, but I'll address all your points with viable alternatives so you stop ****ing yourself of nerves.

Where did I say we are going to get a top kid? I said 4-5. As in 4-5 guys. Just like this year where we've already signed four and I bet a fifth comes whether it's Campbell or not.

Frierson wants to be a CB. Pete said the staff wants to give him a shot at CB. Maybe his ceiling is higher at safety, but if we need CBs he can play there.

Malek dipping would mean the freshmen come in and absolutely ball TF out, forcing him to seek PT. Kind of kills your point about Ivey not being ready and Blades playing safety.

I didn't spin it. We need Campbell for exactly what I said. Elite talent in the secondary. Depth will be fine. But we do NEED his talent.

Holy sh¡t you are delusional lemme counter here

So your first point about getting kids next cycle, you don't want elite kids? You just want bodies to fill for depth? You need to stack chips to win not just get kids just to get kids

Frierson is a safety staff will see that when he gets on campus, but you just wanna throw him at corner because we messed up recruiting corners? Yea that isn't going to end well

I think you think I meant malek is going to transfer I meant dip for the NFL, but regardless he won't be here and that still doesn't help you with your depth argument

Like I said we NEED Campbell

You're putting words into my mouth again.

I want elite kids. You're original point was about basic overall depth and how we won't have enough guys in the secondary. Not about enough elite kids. If it were about enough elite kids, I'd have agreed with you from the start.

Frierson wants to be put at CB. Coaches are open to it. Me and you don't get any say in the matter, obviously. Go off what Pete relays and what the recruit says.

Malek ain't going to the NFL early. I hope he does, cause again that would mean he balled TF out next year. But he's too short to go early based off hope or projection.

And like I said, I agree we NEED Campbell. For talent purposes.

SMH

Not putting words in your mouth just going by what you posted

Who cares what the coaches think or what is being posted frierson is a safety everyone knows this

And again noting you said has countered my argument with malek dipping on the depth except for your "well next class" BS that's some goldenesque stuff, can't always bank on that nothing is guaranteed in recruiting


I got some news for you dog. If the coaches want Frierson at CB, he's gonna play CB. They ain't on here trying to appease Cane Since Birth and his outstanding football acumen that has led to a prestigious position as Canesinsight poster.

Bruh you said it yourself his ceiling is maybe higher at safety that right there lost you the argument, and yes who cares what the coaches say to the media about positions before they get on campus, golden had deon as a corner before he got on campus then played him at safety
 
Thanks for the info. The fact of the matter is that nobody on this board, other than Rattler, knows what this kid is going to do. His entire recruitment has been pretty low-key and he has handled it respectfully. It would be great if other recruits would take note of how TC has handled his recruitment. The kid would be an incredible addition to the class in an area where there is a big need. I'm gonna stay cautiously optimistic that he chooses UM in the end. Regardless of his decision I will wish him nothing but the best for his future as I respect the **** out of the way he has handled his recruitment.

If they all handled their recruitment like Campbell, this board wouldn’t be half as much fun. What would we kvetch about?

why there's a 60 page thread on this kid and nobody knows ****.Just think if we had 20-25 threads of 50-60+ pages on every kid cause they all handled their recruitment like this young man.

wouldn't THAT be fun...
 
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Thanks for the info. The fact of the matter is that nobody on this board, other than Rattler, knows what this kid is going to do. His entire recruitment has been pretty low-key and he has handled it respectfully. It would be great if other recruits would take note of how TC has handled his recruitment. The kid would be an incredible addition to the class in an area where there is a big need. I'm gonna stay cautiously optimistic that he chooses UM in the end. Regardless of his decision I will wish him nothing but the best for his future as I respect the **** out of the way he has handled his recruitment.

If they all handled their recruitment like Campbell, this board wouldn’t be half as much fun. What would we kvetch about?

Upvoted for Yiddish usage.

What does that word mean in Yiddish? Talk or argue?
 
Holy sh¡t you are delusional lemme counter here

So your first point about getting kids next cycle, you don't want elite kids? You just want bodies to fill for depth? You need to stack chips to win not just get kids just to get kids

Frierson is a safety staff will see that when he gets on campus, but you just wanna throw him at corner because we messed up recruiting corners? Yea that isn't going to end well

I think you think I meant malek is going to transfer I meant dip for the NFL, but regardless he won't be here and that still doesn't help you with your depth argument

Like I said we NEED Campbell

You're putting words into my mouth again.

I want elite kids. You're original point was about basic overall depth and how we won't have enough guys in the secondary. Not about enough elite kids. If it were about enough elite kids, I'd have agreed with you from the start.

Frierson wants to be put at CB. Coaches are open to it. Me and you don't get any say in the matter, obviously. Go off what Pete relays and what the recruit says.

Malek ain't going to the NFL early. I hope he does, cause again that would mean he balled TF out next year. But he's too short to go early based off hope or projection.

And like I said, I agree we NEED Campbell. For talent purposes.

SMH

Not putting words in your mouth just going by what you posted

Who cares what the coaches think or what is being posted frierson is a safety everyone knows this

And again noting you said has countered my argument with malek dipping on the depth except for your "well next class" BS that's some goldenesque stuff, can't always bank on that nothing is guaranteed in recruiting


I got some news for you dog. If the coaches want Frierson at CB, he's gonna play CB. They ain't on here trying to appease Cane Since Birth and his outstanding football acumen that has led to a prestigious position as Canesinsight poster.

Bruh you said it yourself his ceiling is maybe higher at safety that right there lost you the argument, and yes who cares what the coaches say to the media about positions before they get on campus, golden had deon as a corner before he got on campus then played him at safety

If the coaches want Gilbert to play CB, he will play CB. What is so hard about that to understand? If they want him to play safety, he will play safety. It's not really clear what they're going to do with him. Why be so close minded to them giving him a shot at his favorite position? This whole board (including myself) wanted Dallas on the defensive side of the ball. Seems like they made the right choice there.

And you compared Golden to Richt. Lol end of discussion.
 
What’s the success rate of recruits that have 2 threads on this board?
 
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