Will Jalen Grimble take the next step this season???????

3-4 and gap control defenses can generate a ton of sacks. But they are generated via their blitz schemes. If you have creative, well timed, and properly executive blitz schemes, you will generate sacks. At worst, you will generate hurries which will mean incompletions and INTs.

If we aren't getting enough sacks at a 2 gap defense, it's bc our blitzes suck.

Yes that is true. However we haven't ran a 3-4. Strictly 4-3 with DE's that are not true pass rushing DE's. Also we really haven't blitzed much due to shakey secondary that D'onofrio didn't want to expose. So really D'onofrio really has been coaching with a hand tied behind his back. This year he'll have more options and should be able to begin introducing the 3-4 until he fully transitions to it late in the year or next. Either way I think he'll be more confident with the secondary and will be more aggressive and blitz more.
 
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Worst DL in the history of the program? Son, did you just start following the program last year? Yeah, it's not national championship caliber, but let's take a deep breath and not sound like the world's coming to an end. Give it time to develop and improve. And yes, there is reason to anticipate a step or two will be made this fall.

good stuff

2012 d line was the worst University of Miami defensive line I have ever seen in all of my life. I understand that last season this team was playing 1 JR, 2 SO's & 3 FR's in the rotation for most of the season and that is a for sure recipe for disaster. I do believe that the d-line will make a huge jump this season, I even expect to see good things from Cory King unlike most. My only is will Jalen Grimble be able to contribute.

Sack totals of the last 9 years (I am sure it will be very difficult to find a lower total than 13)
2012: 13
2011: 23
2010: 37
2009: 23
2008: 30
2007: 31
2006: 38
2005: 35
2004: 38
2003: 48

Were you around for 1997? That DL was pretty brutal.

Yes I was around. I am from Miami and I grew up, went to school with, and still talk to some of the greatest canes of all time.

Here is 20 years of University of Miami Sack Totals. I could not find the sack totals from 2000-2002, but I am 100% those numbers were great considering those were some of the best defenses this program has ever seen.

1992: 44 (Defensive coordinator Sonny Lubick)
1993: 45 (Defensive coordinator Greg McMackin & Tommy Tuberville)
1994: 42 (Defensive coordinator Sonny Lubick)
1995: 25 (Defensive coordinator Bill Miller)
1996: 34 (Defensive coordinator Bill Miller)
1997: 21 (Defensive coordinator Bill Miller)
1998: 39 (Defensive coordinator Bill Miller)
1999: 45 (Defensive coordinator Greg Schiano)
2000: Not Found (Defensive coordinator Greg Schiano)
2001: Not Found (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2002: Not Found (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2003: 48 (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2004: 38 (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2005: 35 (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2006: 38 (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2007: 31 (Defensive coordinator Tim Walton)
2008: 30 (Defensive coordinator Bill Young)
2009: 23 (Defensive coordinator John Lovett)
2010: 37 (Defensive coordinator John Lovett)
2011: 23 (Defensive coordinator Mark D'Onofrio)
2012: 13 (Defensive coordinator Mark D'Onofrio)

So in the 2 seasons under Mark D'Onofrio he has managed to produce the 1st and 3rd lowest sack totals in the past 20 years of this program. I am a supporter of D'Onofrio and I do believe he needs time to develop his guys but the numbers never lie.


Off topic... but Jesus Christ @ those 1992 and 1993 numbers. Considering the number of games played back then, that comes out to about 5 sacks PER GAME, which is just sick.

Too bad I never got to see those teams play, those defenses must have been monsters.
 
13 sacks is simply pathetic. I can't imagine that we're THAT void of talent. Gotta be something else going on.

I think we have good talent. It's just unfair to expect a talented freshman or sophomore for that matter to get it done consistently on the DL.
 
Worst DL in the history of the program? Son, did you just start following the program last year? Yeah, it's not national championship caliber, but let's take a deep breath and not sound like the world's coming to an end. Give it time to develop and improve. And yes, there is reason to anticipate a step or two will be made this fall.

good stuff

2012 d line was the worst University of Miami defensive line I have ever seen in all of my life. I understand that last season this team was playing 1 JR, 2 SO's & 3 FR's in the rotation for most of the season and that is a for sure recipe for disaster. I do believe that the d-line will make a huge jump this season, I even expect to see good things from Cory King unlike most. My only is will Jalen Grimble be able to contribute.

Sack totals of the last 9 years (I am sure it will be very difficult to find a lower total than 13)
2012: 13
2011: 23
2010: 37
2009: 23
2008: 30
2007: 31
2006: 38
2005: 35
2004: 38
2003: 48

Has D'Onofrio's defense ever been good at getting to the QB? I ask seriously. I have no clue.

Reason I ask is cause our sack numbers fell dramatically as soon as he got here. I know we're not super talented but either were some of those other defenses on this list.

23 sacks in 09 and 23 his first year here isn't such a dramatic swing.
 
Grimble is a classic example of a guy who needs to be hitting the PEDs and hitting them hard if he wants to see the field.
 
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I'm hopeful of a DJ Williams type of impact, once the light switch comes on. It has happened time and time again. Look at Davon Johnson last season. These kids have serious talent, once the switch is thrown, things happen quickly. Of course, sometimes injuries, motivation, physical development and other things play a part, but we need Grimble to step up, and I'm hopeful that it's possible.
 
Worst DL in the history of the program? Son, did you just start following the program last year? Yeah, it's not national championship caliber, but let's take a deep breath and not sound like the world's coming to an end. Give it time to develop and improve. And yes, there is reason to anticipate a step or two will be made this fall.

good stuff

2012 d line was the worst University of Miami defensive line I have ever seen in all of my life. I understand that last season this team was playing 1 JR, 2 SO's & 3 FR's in the rotation for most of the season and that is a for sure recipe for disaster. I do believe that the d-line will make a huge jump this season, I even expect to see good things from Cory King unlike most. My only is will Jalen Grimble be able to contribute.

Sack totals of the last 9 years (I am sure it will be very difficult to find a lower total than 13)
2012: 13
2011: 23
2010: 37
2009: 23
2008: 30
2007: 31
2006: 38
2005: 35
2004: 38
2003: 48

Were you around for 1997? That DL was pretty brutal.

Yes I was around. I am from Miami and I grew up, went to school with, and still talk to some of the greatest canes of all time.

Here is 20 years of University of Miami Sack Totals. I could not find the sack totals from 2000-2002, but I am 100% those numbers were great considering those were some of the best defenses this program has ever seen.

1992: 44 (Defensive coordinator Sonny Lubick)
1993: 45 (Defensive coordinator Greg McMackin & Tommy Tuberville)
1994: 42 (Defensive coordinator Sonny Lubick)
1995: 25 (Defensive coordinator Bill Miller)
1996: 34 (Defensive coordinator Bill Miller)
1997: 21 (Defensive coordinator Bill Miller)
1998: 39 (Defensive coordinator Bill Miller)
1999: 45 (Defensive coordinator Greg Schiano)
2000: Not Found (Defensive coordinator Greg Schiano)
2001: Not Found (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2002: Not Found (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2003: 48 (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2004: 38 (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2005: 35 (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2006: 38 (Defensive coordinator Randy Shannon)
2007: 31 (Defensive coordinator Tim Walton)
2008: 30 (Defensive coordinator Bill Young)
2009: 23 (Defensive coordinator John Lovett)
2010: 37 (Defensive coordinator John Lovett)
2011: 23 (Defensive coordinator Mark D'Onofrio)
2012: 13 (Defensive coordinator Mark D'Onofrio)

So in the 2 seasons under Mark D'Onofrio he has managed to produce the 1st and 3rd lowest sack totals in the past 20 years of this program. I am a supporter of D'Onofrio and I do believe he needs time to develop his guys but the numbers never lie.

The numbers FREQUENTLY lie.
The DL has been very young, playing without its best members for much of the last 2 years (CP and OV). We are still undrmanned up front, but I hope our offense forces the opponent to play catch-up and pass more. Our sack numbers sucked because teams didn't have to pass on us. If the DT situation continues to be a problem, we may not be facing many passing formations.
 
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I'll take the sacks but give me pressure on the QB all day long instead... What we truly don't know is if its scheme or players that can not get to the **** QB!
 
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You guys know football much more than me, but someone please correct me if what I say is incorrect. (like I'd have to ask)

Sacks is NOT a sole function of the Defensive Line.

Sacks are ALSO a function of coverage, right? I mean, if no one is open, and the QB can't find an open receiver - he often has to eat it, right?
 
3-4 and gap control defenses can generate a ton of sacks. But they are generated via their blitz schemes. If you have creative, well timed, and properly executive blitz schemes, you will generate sacks. At worst, you will generate hurries which will mean incompletions and INTs.

If we aren't getting enough sacks at a 2 gap defense, it's bc our blitzes suck.

crazy part is dude doesnt even "like" to blutz...He;s afraid to blitz...until the redzone...we run a scheme that is reactive...You on offense has to f*k up ...not us putting the pressure on u too f*ck up.

The fact that early on Bethune Cookman was having success is all i needed to know. Even though Bethune has (Rob Spence) former clemson oc as their oc.
 
3-4 and gap control defenses can generate a ton of sacks. But they are generated via their blitz schemes. If you have creative, well timed, and properly executive blitz schemes, you will generate sacks. At worst, you will generate hurries which will mean incompletions and INTs.

If we aren't getting enough sacks at a 2 gap defense, it's bc our blitzes suck.

crazy part is dude doesnt even "like" to blutz...He;s afraid to blitz...until the redzone...we run a scheme that is reactive...You on offense has to f*k up ...not us putting the pressure on u too f*ck up.

The fact that early on Bethune Cookman was having success is all i needed to know. Even though Bethune has (Rob Spence) former clemson oc as their oc.

The Florida Gators thank you for recruiting for them on a site many of our recruits visit.

STFU with this whiney, negative garbage. We had a bad defense last year because they were young. Period. We didn't get a lot of sacks because we didn't have anyone talented enough to get to the quarterback.

Quit trying to act like there's a defensive coordinator in America that actually DOESN'T want to sack the quarterback.
 
The Florida Gators thank you for recruiting for them on a site many of our recruits visit.

STFU with this whiney, negative garbage. We had a bad defense last year because they were young. Period. We didn't get a lot of sacks because we didn't have anyone talented enough to get to the quarterback.

Quit trying to act like there's a defensive coordinator in America that actually DOESN'T want to sack the quarterback.[/QUOTE]

Dont care bout the Gators...their not in our conference..We just play them this yr and thats it.

Negative garbage??..Its truth. Quite frankly if were not marginally better next yr on d..our dc should be fired imo. Being young was part of the problem...YES. But anyone who knows football wll tell u the easiest place for young players to play and produce is on defense. We didnt get alot of sacks because we didnt have a talented enough dc that could come up with ways to get to the quarterback to add to the lack of talent.

We have a Defensive coordinator that gives no f*cks about giving up a ton of yards. (Words out of his own mouth, as he puts more in to total scoring).

Not a No Frio hater..if he performs this yr im back on the wagon..but dude hasnt shown me nothing in 2 yrs and even @ temple.
 
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Dont care bout the Gators...their not in our conference..We just play them this yr and thats it.

Negative garbage??..Its truth. Quite frankly if were not marginally better next yr on d..our dc should be fired imo. Being young was part of the problem...YES. But anyone who knows football wll tell u the easiest place for young players to play and produce is on defense. We didnt get alot of sacks because we didnt have a talented enough dc that could come up with ways to get to the quarterback to add to the lack of talent.

We have a Defensive coordinator that gives no f*cks about giving up a ton of yards. (Words out of his own mouth, as he puts more in to total scoring).

Not a No Frio hater..if he performs this yr im back on the wagon..but dude hasnt shown me nothing in 2 yrs and even @ temple.

First of all, the Gators are beating us for recruits like Clark and Moten and I'd say a big part of the reason for that is negativity from people like you. Who would want to go play for D'Onofrio if they were to believe half the negative crap you're saying about him and his defenses?

You say you're willing to give D'Onofrio this year to prove himself. I agree totally. If our defense isn't any better this year, we should look for another D Coordinator. BUT, you're not even giving him this year like you say you are.... you're already judging the man.

Attitudes like yours are the reason we're missing out on recruits. It's not D'Onofrio's scheme, it's the air of negativity from hundreds of people like you in the South Florida community.

So I say, quit being part of the **** problem.
 
Dont care bout the Gators...their not in our conference..We just play them this yr and thats it.

Negative garbage??..Its truth. Quite frankly if were not marginally better next yr on d..our dc should be fired imo. Being young was part of the problem...YES. But anyone who knows football wll tell u the easiest place for young players to play and produce is on defense. We didnt get alot of sacks because we didnt have a talented enough dc that could come up with ways to get to the quarterback to add to the lack of talent.

We have a Defensive coordinator that gives no f*cks about giving up a ton of yards. (Words out of his own mouth, as he puts more in to total scoring).

Not a No Frio hater..if he performs this yr im back on the wagon..but dude hasnt shown me nothing in 2 yrs and even @ temple.

First of all, the Gators are beating us for recruits like Clark and Moten and I'd say a big part of the reason for that is negativity from people like you. Who would want to go play for D'Onofrio if they were to believe half the negative crap you're saying about him and his defenses?

You say you're willing to give D'Onofrio this year to prove himself. I agree totally. If our defense isn't any better this year, we should look for another D Coordinator. BUT, you're not even giving him this year like you say you are.... you're already judging the man.

Attitudes like yours are the reason we're missing out on recruits. It's not D'Onofrio's scheme, it's the air of negativity from hundreds of people like you in the South Florida community.

So I say, quit being part of the **** problem.

They are beating us for recruits becuase this D hasn't shown up since Corch D starting corching it
 
Dont care bout the Gators...their not in our conference..We just play them this yr and thats it.

Negative garbage??..Its truth. Quite frankly if were not marginally better next yr on d..our dc should be fired imo. Being young was part of the problem...YES. But anyone who knows football wll tell u the easiest place for young players to play and produce is on defense. We didnt get alot of sacks because we didnt have a talented enough dc that could come up with ways to get to the quarterback to add to the lack of talent.

We have a Defensive coordinator that gives no f*cks about giving up a ton of yards. (Words out of his own mouth, as he puts more in to total scoring).

Not a No Frio hater..if he performs this yr im back on the wagon..but dude hasnt shown me nothing in 2 yrs and even @ temple.

First of all, the Gators are beating us for recruits like Clark and Moten and I'd say a big part of the reason for that is negativity from people like you. Who would want to go play for D'Onofrio if they were to believe half the negative crap you're saying about him and his defenses?

You say you're willing to give D'Onofrio this year to prove himself. I agree totally. If our defense isn't any better this year, we should look for another D Coordinator. BUT, you're not even giving him this year like you say you are.... you're already judging the man.

Attitudes like yours are the reason we're missing out on recruits. It's not D'Onofrio's scheme, it's the air of negativity from hundreds of people like you in the South Florida community.

So I say, quit being part of the **** problem.

They are beating us for recruits becuase this D hasn't shown up since Corch D starting corching it
 
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Dont care bout the Gators...their not in our conference..We just play them this yr and thats it.

Negative garbage??..Its truth. Quite frankly if were not marginally better next yr on d..our dc should be fired imo. Being young was part of the problem...YES. But anyone who knows football wll tell u the easiest place for young players to play and produce is on defense. We didnt get alot of sacks because we didnt have a talented enough dc that could come up with ways to get to the quarterback to add to the lack of talent.

We have a Defensive coordinator that gives no f*cks about giving up a ton of yards. (Words out of his own mouth, as he puts more in to total scoring).

Not a No Frio hater..if he performs this yr im back on the wagon..but dude hasnt shown me nothing in 2 yrs and even @ temple.

First of all, the Gators are beating us for recruits like Clark and Moten and I'd say a big part of the reason for that is negativity from people like you. Who would want to go play for D'Onofrio if they were to believe half the negative crap you're saying about him and his defenses?

You say you're willing to give D'Onofrio this year to prove himself. I agree totally. If our defense isn't any better this year, we should look for another D Coordinator. BUT, you're not even giving him this year like you say you are.... you're already judging the man.

Attitudes like yours are the reason we're missing out on recruits. It's not D'Onofrio's scheme, it's the air of negativity from hundreds of people like you in the South Florida community.

So I say, quit being part of the **** problem.

LOL. That literally has nothing to do with the reason we're missing out on DL recruits. Absolutely nothing at all.
 
Some recruits visit this website, but not every **** kid goes on here. They mainly go on sites to check what they're ranked. Ernie you should quit while you're down
 
3-4 and gap control defenses can generate a ton of sacks. But they are generated via their blitz schemes. If you have creative, well timed, and properly executive blitz schemes, you will generate sacks. At worst, you will generate hurries which will mean incompletions and INTs.

If we aren't getting enough sacks at a 2 gap defense, it's bc our blitzes suck.

crazy part is dude doesnt even "like" to blutz...He;s afraid to blitz...until the redzone...we run a scheme that is reactive...You on offense has to f*k up ...not us putting the pressure on u too f*ck up.

The fact that early on Bethune Cookman was having success is all i needed to know. Even though Bethune has (Rob Spence) former clemson oc as their oc.

The Florida Gators thank you for recruiting for them on a site many of our recruits visit.

STFU with this whiney, negative garbage. We had a bad defense last year because they were young. Period. We didn't get a lot of sacks because we didn't have anyone talented enough to get to the quarterback.

Quit trying to act like there's a defensive coordinator in America that actually DOESN'T want to sack the quarterback.

Cracks me up to see UM fans constantly killing Coach D and giving no possible relevance to us struggling so much on D because we were forced to play a bunch of babies who had no business out there and the fact that the only upperclassmen out there were garbage. They want to be blitz-happy with Kacey Rodgers and AJ Highsmith as their last line of defense for most of the year and a bunch of young corners getting their first real action.

The worst part is that many of these voices who refuse to listen to those extenuating factors or to give them any credence to them are coaches in S. FL or adults that are influential in the community. They pollute the community and the young potential recruits with all of this poison against Coach D, and then they wonder why it's tough for us to recruit defensive players. They're making it tougher. They're jumping in with Chaz Robinscum and YooHoo and the ncaa and tying The Don's hands behind his back. Only at UM do our fans seem to go out of their way to disparage the program and try to make it tough on our coaches instead of trying to see that their are valid reasons for our struggles on D.
 
Some recruits visit this website, but not every **** kid goes on here. They mainly go on sites to check what they're ranked. Ernie you should quit while you're down

It's not just the site. It's the HS coaches and the influential adults in the community who are constantly trashing Coach D. They're making it way harder along with the ncaa cloud for us to recruit.
 
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