Will Jake Heaps Start At Miami?

Heaps this year.
Williams next year after medical redshirt.
Olsen transfers and Kaaya starts as RS soph.

I love this plan, except for Olsen transferring (although I guess it's inevitable). I'd prefer Olsen as RS Jr competing with Kaaya as RS So.

This plan would square away the QB position for the next 4-5 years, and allow us to RS Lawson.
 
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If Kaaya is as good as advertised, do you think e would stay 5 years or would he leave as a RS Jr? In that case does the RS really matter?
 
If Kaaya is as good as advertised, do you think e would stay 5 years or would he leave as a RS Jr? In that case does the RS really matter?

I'm with you on this. OTOH, if he's not going to see the field, you might as well RS him.
 
Maybe I am just having trouble shaking that 2 -4 finish, but this really matter? OK, Duke back on the field is a huge plus and maybe we win a bunch of games because of him alone -- last year sure makes him look like the whole offense. On one hand, it seems with all our weapons, any half-*** QB should be able to win a ton of games. On the other hand there is nothing to indicate staff can avoid taking another series of beatings. I just wish we could pick up a DC and OC off the "wavier" wires for one year to give time for Mark and Coley to learn, gain experience, and put some time in the mental weight room. Hey, let's give Chug and Greg one year deals.
 
Well, a black Kansas fan (how?) said this:

I don't care if you are Dan Marino. His receivers drop 48 passes. FORTY EIGHT!!! I never even heard of a receiving corp dropping that many passes. He also had arguably the worst offensive line in the country in Kansas last year. He is only one dude. The reason they wen't with the other guy is because Wiess is building for the future and going young. Also the young guy is just better at running for his life...lmao. He should have never transferred there. He actually broke some passing records as a true freshmen at BYU and they have a great QB tradition. I say this is a great move for both him and Miami. All they have are freshmen at QB there right now.

from the WEZ
 
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Well, a black Kansas fan (how?) said this:

I don't care if you are Dan Marino. His receivers drop 48 passes. FORTY EIGHT!!! I never even heard of a receiving corp dropping that many passes. He also had arguably the worst offensive line in the country in Kansas last year. He is only one dude. The reason they wen't with the other guy is because Wiess is building for the future and going young. Also the young guy is just better at running for his life...lmao. He should have never transferred there. He actually broke some passing records as a true freshmen at BYU and they have a great QB tradition. I say this is a great move for both him and Miami. All they have are freshmen at QB there right now.

from the WEZ

From what I found his stats last year were 128 comp out of 261 attempts for a 49% completion rate. If you add in the 48 drops that's 176/261 or 67% I don't know about you fellas but I'd love a 67% completion rate to Miami play makers. Even if it's only 28 drops that's almost 60%
 
I think he surprises quite a few people and starts at Miami day 1. The kid has had horrible supporting cast to work with. I see a lot of similarities between Brock berlin and Heaps.

When he starts it won't be a surprise. And he is nothing like Berlin. Brock had a cannon and could win games flinging the ball all over the field.

This kid will be a field manager, that is all.

I'd love to have a QB with a similar year to Brock's senior season. He's the best QB we've had since Dorsey.

22 TD's 6 INT's and never lost to Florida or FSU. I'd take that from Heaps in a second.

If he does that I'll wear my thong backwards for a month straight then eat it.

How are you currently wearing your thong?
 
Heaps coming in is a GODSEND for Kaaya.

Besides the fact that it gives Brad a chance to possibly redshirt and learn, it could be Olson wouldn't get 13+/- starts under his belt ahead of their QB competition next Spring.
 
Well, a black Kansas fan (how?) said this:

I don't care if you are Dan Marino. His receivers drop 48 passes. FORTY EIGHT!!! I never even heard of a receiving corp dropping that many passes. He also had arguably the worst offensive line in the country in Kansas last year. He is only one dude. The reason they wen't with the other guy is because Wiess is building for the future and going young. Also the young guy is just better at running for his life...lmao. He should have never transferred there. He actually broke some passing records as a true freshmen at BYU and they have a great QB tradition. I say this is a great move for both him and Miami. All they have are freshmen at QB there right now.

from the WEZ

From what I found his stats last year were 128 comp out of 261 attempts for a 49% completion rate. If you add in the 48 drops that's 176/261 or 67% I don't know about you fellas but I'd love a 67% completion rate to Miami play makers. Even if it's only 28 drops that's almost 60%

I think it was 48 for the season between all QBs who played. Where is the 48 drops stat coming from?
 
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I'm with JustCanesBaby... Where is the 48 coming from? That's an awful lot of drops for 1 qb who eventually lost his position... The kid was talented as a freshman but there isn't an excuse in the world that can absolve him from his poor production last year... The kid played bad against a conference that isn't known for defense outside of like 2 teams... His numbers were horrible... Hopefully he bounces back but this is a cause for concern...
 
Well, a black Kansas fan (how?) said this:

I don't care if you are Dan Marino. His receivers drop 48 passes. FORTY EIGHT!!! I never even heard of a receiving corp dropping that many passes. He also had arguably the worst offensive line in the country in Kansas last year. He is only one dude. The reason they wen't with the other guy is because Wiess is building for the future and going young. Also the young guy is just better at running for his life...lmao. He should have never transferred there. He actually broke some passing records as a true freshmen at BYU and they have a great QB tradition. I say this is a great move for both him and Miami. All they have are freshmen at QB there right now.

from the WEZ

From what I found his stats last year were 128 comp out of 261 attempts for a 49% completion rate. If you add in the 48 drops that's 176/261 or 67% I don't know about you fellas but I'd love a 67% completion rate to Miami play makers. Even if it's only 28 drops that's almost 60%

I think it was 48 for the season between all QBs who played. Where is the 48 drops stat coming from?

Given how he started the first 9 games, I would imagine majority of those drops were when he played. Even if was just half like it was stated above, 60% is not too shabby. Add to that, more yards, possibly more TD's, better position for their team to win.
 
Don't know how many drops KU had but my best friend is a KU grad and he told me they have the worst WR core in D1. Their WRs as a whole were less productive each of the past two seasons than Hurns was by himself last year. 3 TD receptions by wideouts in two years.
 
Don't know how many drops KU had but my best friend is a KU grad and he told me they have the worst WR core in D1. Their WRs as a whole were less productive each of the past two seasons than Hurns was by himself last year. 3 TD receptions by wideouts in two years.

Not just worst WR, but one of the worst O-lines in FBS (or whatever it's called now). The kid was constantly under pressure the moment the ball was snapped. While it's true he's pretty immobile, even a mobile QB would get mauled behind the Kansas line. Switching to a spread and mobile QB as they did this offseason is in part because they can't function at any sort of level as a pro set, pocket passing team. I don't think he'll necessarily turn into a superstar savior, but he's got the basic tools to be a very solid QB for us that doesn't go out and win games by himself, but does what needs to be done to let our playmakers win games.
 
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I just don't want the staff (or us fans to a much lesser extent) to be short sighted on this. Kaaya is the future of this program. Please do not risk the next 3-4 four years of possibly having a franchise QB for 3-4 extra wins this year when we probably won't contend (on paper) for the Final 4. QBs are fragile creatures.
 
Don't know how many drops KU had but my best friend is a KU grad and he told me they have the worst WR core in D1. Their WRs as a whole were less productive each of the past two seasons than Hurns was by himself last year. 3 TD receptions by wideouts in two years.

Not just worst WR, but one of the worst O-lines in FBS (or whatever it's called now). The kid was constantly under pressure the moment the ball was snapped. While it's true he's pretty immobile, even a mobile QB would get mauled behind the Kansas line. Switching to a spread and mobile QB as they did this offseason is in part because they can't function at any sort of level as a pro set, pocket passing team. I don't think he'll necessarily turn into a superstar savior, but he's got the basic tools to be a very solid QB for us that doesn't go out and win games by himself, but does what needs to be done to let our playmakers win games.


I just don't know but his stats and that fact that he was beat out twice suggests otherwise. Plus, he has to get acclimated pretty quickly. I just hope the combination of him and Williams will suffice.
 
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I just don't want the staff (or us fans to a much lesser extent) to be short sighted on this. Kaaya is the future of this program. Please do not risk the next 3-4 four years of possibly having a franchise QB for 3-4 extra wins this year when we probably won't contend (on paper) for the Final 4. QBs are fragile creatures.
Whats to say Brad Kaaya will be a franchise QB? Olsen was just as high ranked recruit as him and now hes being tossed aside due to a subpar spring. Yea hes a good locking recruit but very presumptuous to assume he will be star qb for 3-4 years. And if Heaps does get us an extra 3-4 wins this year=100% worth it!
 
Don't know how many drops KU had but my best friend is a KU grad and he told me they have the worst WR core in D1. Their WRs as a whole were less productive each of the past. . . two seasons than Hurns was by himself last year. 3 TD receptions by wideouts in two years.

Not just worst WR, but one of the worst O-lines in FBS (or whatever it's called now). The kid was constantly under pressure the moment the ball was snapped. While it's true he's pretty immobile, even a mobile QB would get mauled behind the Kansas line. Switching to a spread and mobile QB as they did this offseason is in part because they can't function at any sort of level as a pro set, pocket passing team. I don't think he'll necessarily turn into a superstar savior, but he's got the basic tools to be a very solid QB for us that doesn't go out and win games by himself, but does what needs to be done to let our playmakers win games.


I just don't know but his stats and that fact that he was beat out twice suggests otherwise. Plus, he has to get acclimated pretty quickly. I just hope the combination of him and Williams will suffice.

Stats are for baseball geeks. Heaps is talented, he will start this year, and I suspect he will thrive. A month ago, the sky was falling because Olsen didn't light it up during the spring game... now Golden is "desperate" and Heaps is a "loser." You guys are too much.
 
Best scenario is Olsen gets his act together and Starts, Heaps is the backup and Kaaya shirts.
 
Best scenario is Olsen gets his act togethes is the backup and Kaaya shirts.

Why is that the best case scenario? For Olsen, maybe. Best case for the rest of us for is a competent QB to be under center this year. Olsen will be the backup this year, as he expected to be before RW's injury, and Kayaa will shirt. Be glad Heaps is here.
 
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