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caneknight7575 said:
If they want to be relevant they need to give some of the money for NIL to hire a DC who is still hungry who develops talent, has done it before at a power 4 school, and has something to prove. Go poach a proven commodity.
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Still need a new HC that preaches discipline and holds players accountable, although Meyer obviously has some concerns in this area he still wins. An elite HC would demand money for assistants and all the other things that go with that. Unfortunately, Mario has been given more than any HC in UM history and has a winning % just below Manny Diaz lol
 
McGahee2TheHouse said:
Picking coaches sure is hard when you keep handcuffing yourself with moronic parameters like being a Miami guy.

Picking coaches sure is hard when you never actually conduct real searches and limit yourself to a pool of 1-2 guys.
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mcnaire2004 said:
Well the cool thing is they did open the pocketbooks for assistant coaches. We don't have a bad DC because of money we have one because his boss thinks he should be here.
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We open the checkbook but not like the big boys and the problem is when all of the money is going to the HC and it leaves the HC to pick an unproven coordinator who will use the job as a stepping stone or an old rethread like Steele who is just collecting a check at this point in his career. When was the last time we hired a proven commodity who is still hungry as a coordinator?

It happens to be the guys who have had succees here. Manny and Dawson.

If Mario is going to be successful going forward he needs to hire a Gene Chizik type DC if he is still hungry and with something to prove.
 
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McGahee2TheHouse said:
Picking coaches sure is hard when you keep handcuffing yourself with moronic parameters like being a Miami guy.

Picking coaches sure is hard when you never actually conduct real searches and limit yourself to a pool of 1-2 guys.
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Golden wasn’t a Miami guy and, if I remember correctly, you ended up hating him more than anybody.

Diaz and Shannon definitely were picked because of Miami ties.

With Mario, he was a little different because he was the realistic option with the highest value on the open market. Oregon wanted to keep him and pay him, and other teams would have, too. He had a track record. The Miami connection had more to do with him picking us (and leaving Oregon) than with us picking him.
 
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SolNine said:
I have wondered the same. This team always seems to run out of gas during the final stretch and I have to wonder if it has something to do with the academic schedule or some other aspect of the University Schedule.
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Yeah, easy schools like Duke don’t have this issue.
 
mcnaire2004 said:
Strongly disagree. Mario was the most good-old-boy-hire in program history.
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This is an insane take.

You’d think we’ve won multiple national championships and have had elite coaching by the comments in this board. We have been TERRIBLE. With TERRIBLE coaching for most of the past 2 decades.

This was not an attractive destination when we were able to hire Mario.
 
DMoney said:
Golden wasn’t a Miami guy and, if I remember correctly, you ended up hating him more than anybody.

Diaz and Shannon definitely were picked because of Miami ties.

With Mario, he was a little different because he was the realistic option with the highest value on the open market. Oregon wanted to keep him and pay him, and other teams would have, too. He had a track record. The Miami connection had more to do with him picking us (and leaving Oregon) than with us picking him.
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Do you think the stats I showed are due to the lack of the “blank check” approach to coordinators in which the HC is stuck trying to hire someone who is old and is collecting a check like Steele or someone who has no experience as OC/DC at a power 4 conference?

The coordinators that have had success here recently are guys who are proven and are hungry.
 
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I’ve insinuated this in the past.
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NPBCANE4 said:
South Florida kids?
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Nah, we're not the only program with south Florida kids. Although I watched almost every ohio state game this year and for all of Jeremiah Smith's greatness he does have a tendency to make silly mistakes at times which made me think about the south florida kids thing. But honestly I just think its us
 
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caneknight7575 said:
It makes no sense because other schools have similar academic schedules. I was wondering whether it was just south Florida kids who let the hype get to them and once they get hit in the mouth they fold.
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I have a feeling it's mental. I've long suspected the new breed of SoFla kid can't fluorish at Miami. Or they ones that stay home are tainted because let's be real... it makes more sense to go to Ohio State if you wan't to go to the NFL.

A lot of the players that cost us games in big games in the last four weeks are SoFla kids - Fletcher Fumble, Restrepo Fumble, George penalties, Zaquan holding in Q4 last year. I just feel like SoFla kids at Miami fold under pressure.
 
DMoney said:
Him and Richt had market value. When they came here, a lot of national media questioned why they would do it.
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Agree on the market value.

CMRs only national question Was about how soon he did it after leaving UGA. Otherwise it was seen as a natural fit across the board. Because he was a Miami guy. The only good one apparently history shows.

The good old boy club with clamoring for Mario before he had any market value. Nobody nationally questioned why he would do it. It was a huge open secret that Mario would abandon Oregon at the drop of a hat for Miami. Unfortunately that was not a rumor.

DMoney said:
Diaz and Shannon were different. No P5 team wanted to hire them.
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In both of their cases those guys were seen within the program and nationally as people that would soon be big time head coaches. Manny was the biggest shark because he was just given his set of training wheels at Temple.
 
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McGahee2TheHouse said:
And then lastly this website pumps up those losers and holds no one accountable because access to said program is contingent on being the propaganda arm of the school
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I agree with your points and this last part is a separate concern people have brought up but it’s not the reason we fail every November and December.
 
I just wrote about this in another thread. It's the type of players that Miami goes after. They take great athletes not great football players. South Florida kids are poorly coached at an early age and get taught that there way to success in life is primarily through football (I was groomed the same way initially). This creates a "me first" selfish mentality. Miami is reliant too heavily on South Florida kids who keep this mindset. For every one Restrepo or Kam Kinchens or Santana Moss, there are 25 kids that make up the typical South Florida diva that lacks solid fundamentals and are not coachable. Butch recruited better quality people that were coachable. Some were elite athletes like Sean Taylor. Some were just raw football dudes with elite intelligence like Ed Reed and Dan Morgan. What I see with Cristobal, Diaz, Shannon, Richt, etc. is they are chasing athletes first and the individual second. All the physical ability in the world does you no good if you aren't intelligent and coachable. You have what we saw on defense this year. 11 individuals trying to improve draft stock and not one team working cohesively to win championships. Until Miami fixes this, this pattern will continue in perpetuity. Miami needs a coach with a regimented system. Golden was close but had a fatal flaw with D'Nofrio.
 
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McGahee2TheHouse said:
100%. I initially deleted that part and then someone quoted me so I had to stick it back in.
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Got ya… yeah, not disagreeing with any of it. I’m not privy to the workings beyond Maude stuff but many have raised to me privately and on the board, the interplay of program access and the positivity of content of information disseminated on here.
 
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