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What Recruiting at Miami Should Look Like: Elite Feet

DMoney said:
When it comes to women and offensive linemen, I focus on flexibility and lower-body. The upper body can come with development.

Jonathan Denis is a guy with the shoulders of a WR, but his weight is in his lower-half and he gets under every defensive linemen he blocks.
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DMayock ...

 
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2.0 said:
We arent signing 6 OL and the emphasis has been on tackles and not Guards.

If we get Walker and the interest from Dumervil is real, Denis might be the odd man out.
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Dumervil is the type of kid you make room for. He probably won't be committing for a while.eother while Denis will be announcing soon. I don't see Miami dropping Denis if he commits even if they somehow land Dumervil later.
 
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LuCane said:
I dogged our coaching staff for confusing him with Tana or Reggie Wayne. Berrios needed to be in the slot, in the middle of the field and he actually didn't run as many option routes in the middle of the field as I would have liked. Guy played his senior year with a tremendous amount of balls.
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Shows how in college 40 times are great but some great route running and change of direction can be equalizers
 
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DMoney said:
When it comes to women and offensive linemen, I focus on flexibility and lower-body. The upper body can come with development.

Jonathan Denis is a guy with the shoulders of a WR, but his weight is in his lower-half and he gets under every defensive linemen he blocks.
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Frame matters. You can develop muscles to an extent, but for linemen, neck, shoulders, hands, core matter too.

Hips are frame too. And ankles, lower body/legs, even achilles (hat tip art kehoe). One day they will just have recruits stand in front of some MRI screen and predict development potential based partly on skeletal imaging.
 
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Ethnicsands said:
Frame matters. You can develop muscles to an extent, but for linemen, neck, shoulders, hands, core matter too.

Hips are frame too. And ankles, lower body/legs, even achilles (hat tip art kehoe). One day they will just have recruits stand in front of some MRI screen and predict development potential based partly on skeletal imaging.
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That it took so long for scouts to break away from the Stone Age and begin measuring arm length and wingspan will forever be a mystery to me. For certain positions, it would flip me out to listen to or read people call players undersized. 6’ 1” DEs with 6’ 8” wingspans often played bigger than 6’ 4” DEs with 6’ 5” wingspans.

I guess because I’m getting older and now I’m injured (rotator cuff), I’ve been on this sports science/performance research bender. There are extremely subtle things to test for now: like stability and muscle strength *in your feet*. And, how stuff like that relates to explosiveness. We’re a handful of years away from some really interesting sports science stuff. Yet scouts remain in their universe, like in the movie Moneyball, talking about ‘when he walks into a room, people notice.’ Lol, shut up.
 
JHallCanes said:
Great stuff, Lu.

People dogged Berrios his first couple of years here but he carried this team his senior year. Every big play we had (outside of a couple of monster Langham catches of course) was Berrios doing damage and his strength was the shuttle. His legendary shuttle performance at the Opening stands out.
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Just goes to show what guys can do if you use their SPECIFIC skill set correctly.

I was bullish on Berrios from the jump.

Thought he was Welker reincarnate with more speed.

I was really disappointed the way he was used in 2016. With more 3 step drop and game planning Braxton in the short game, I really feel the offense could have got going faster in 2016, increasing that 9 win total.
 
LuCane said:
I dogged our coaching staff for confusing him with Tana or Reggie Wayne. Berrios needed to be in the slot, in the middle of the field and he actually didn't run as many option routes in the middle of the field as I would have liked. Guy played his senior year with a tremendous amount of balls.
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ALL OF THIS.

These things matter for wins, losses, and recruiting.
 
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Issiah Walker at Tackle is pretty text book.

He has GREAT feet..and a good reach. I dont know if its because he has never been an out of shape lineman as he played around 245 early in his career at Norland. But his frame is great yet he has a lot of power. He has gotten some good coaching at Norland or wherever he trains because the minute he feels a bull rush he drops that butt and anchors well. Walker also FINISHES. Thats key with me as alot of high school lineman are NICE GUYS from being the biggest kid ont he block and not wanting to hurt the kids. F That dude tryna get pancakes

He will be a 3 year starter wherever he commits to. I never thought he was coming here..but it looks like a move was made. Would LOVE him in this class. He is what Barry Likes at Tackle. And i think he can be a Left Tackle here if he commits.

Dumervil also is a beast but appears to be a long shot. Dumervil build, and reach sets him apart. Dude arms are long as sh*t and he is a slender 6'5 300 pounder that can legitimately play dl.

Getting 1 out of the 2 would be GREAT
 
gogeta4 said:
Issiah Walker at Tackle is pretty text book.

He has GREAT feet..and a good reach. I dont know if its because he has never been an out of shape lineman as he played around 245 early in his career at Norland. But his frame is great yet he has a lot of power. He has gotten some good coaching at Norland or wherever he trains because the minute he feels a bull rush he drops that butt and anchors well. Walker also FINISHES. Thats key with me as alot of high school lineman are NICE GUYS from being the biggest kid ont he block and not wanting to hurt the kids. F That dude tryna get pancakes

He will be a 3 year starter wherever he commits to. I never thought he was coming here..but it looks like a move was made. Would LOVE him in this class. He is what Barry Likes at Tackle. And i think he can be a Left Tackle here if he commits.

Dumervil also is a beast but appears to be a long shot. Dumervil build, and reach sets him apart. Dude arms are long as sh*t and he is a slender 6'5 300 pounder that can legitimately play dl.

Getting 1 out of the 2 would be GREAT
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LT - Walker
LG - Scaife
C - Gaynor
RG - Reed
RT - Rivers

With Zion/Campbell as the swing tackles and Hillery as the swing guard!
 
LuCane said:
That it took so long for scouts to break away from the Stone Age and begin measuring arm length and wingspan will forever be a mystery to me. For certain positions, it would flip me out to listen to or read people call players undersized. 6’ 1” DEs with 6’ 8” wingspans often played bigger than 6’ 4” DEs with 6’ 5” wingspans.

I guess because I’m getting older and now I’m injured (rotator cuff), I’ve been on this sports science/performance research bender. There are extremely subtle things to test for now: like stability and muscle strength *in your feet*. And, how stuff like that relates to explosiveness. We’re a handful of years away from some really interesting sports science stuff. Yet scouts remain in their universe, like in the movie Moneyball, talking about ‘when he walks into a room, people notice.’ Lol, shut up.
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The strength of the arches in your feet allow you to run faster.
This is because when your foot hits the ground the heel is the only body part moving backwards. Strong arches limit that. That’s a sprinters technique.
 
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