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What gives me hope for some Kaaya success - THIS YEAR

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LuCane said:
k9cane said:
lu, I know that the scores of the games will determine this , but what is your estimate in terms of the run-pass ratio with Kaaya under center?
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We ran the ball 436 times last year for a 4.8 average. We were 36th in yards per attempt, but only 97th in actual attempts. For comparison, FSU ran 505 times (53rd) for a 5.6 average (10th). Perhaps some of that had to do with Duke's injury.

I hope we're closer to 525 attempts this year and 5.1. According to last year stats, that would at least put us in the Top 50 of rushing attempts in the NCAA and top 25 in yards per attempt.

I think the run/pass ratio will fall toward run only slightly. I think what will change are the underneath routes/passes.
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I imagine we were on offense a lot less than FSU as well though. Our TOP had to be a lot worse than theirs
 
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Kaaya should be asked to do very little. we have the backs to make this a run heavy offense. get Kaaya loose with some well placed play action bombs.
 
I've said it for a while now and I still feel this way.

For as flawed as Morris is/was as a player....Coley did him no favors. You watch the highlight tapes above and it's not that Morris isn't throwing the ball to a receiver in the middle of the field...it's that the **** route combinations barely had any players in the middle of the field. Everything was a stop, a go, a post, or a corner route.

No slants. No drags (which is simply ridiculous cause they are great for moving the chains). No intermediate digs. Barely any seam routes.

Don't misinterpret this as me making excuses for Morris...Bill Walsh himself could have been our coordinator and he'd still be what he is. However...the version of Coley's offense that we saw last year was simply horrible. I'd argue he underachieved even more than Onfrio did relative to the amount talent his side of the ball had as compared to the defense.

I really think Coley is more head coach material than he is a coordinator. He's got the charisma, attitude, and high level perspective that would make him a good fit to run a program one day....but I just don't see him as an "X's and O's" guy.

So with all that being said, let's see what this years version of the offense looks like with Kaaya at the helm. If we see the same simplistic scheme on offense then it's time for Coley the OC to get his fair share of criticism. The middle of the field can no longer continue to be ignored. I think we ran 4 running back screens ALL YEAR (including the time BEFORE Duke got hurt).
 
OldManCane said:
We shouldn't have to "cut the field in half" or "simplify the offense" for any quarterback.

For me, it's not about having hope that Kaaya can succeed, for me he had BETTER succeed. He won't get any slack from me, or from the fan base, if he goes out there and makes freshman mistakes or if our offense isn't clicking due to being scaled down so much.

To me, this is ridiculous. Can this kid really go in to Louisville and win, beat Florida State, go to Blacksburg and win? We have a perfectly good, experienced quarterback in Jake Heaps and I gotta tell you.... this decision not to start him in favor of a true freshman who has never taken a snap in his life baffles me.

I hope to **** the staff knows what they're doing, because we're not grading on a curve. Anything less than 10 wins and a coastal division title is not acceptable.
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Complete speculation from my **** but:
I think a part of the calculus in starting Kaaya is the 2 games before Nebraska. We might see the 1/2 field plan against Lville and hope for a win, but then an attempt to expand the field in the 2 subsequent games. If the kid handles that and plays well a Ne, then he's in for the rest of the year. If he struggles at Nebraska with the full field, then either Heaps or Williams take over. Its easier to pull the freshman for the senior than the other way around.
 
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We play in the ACC, the weakest of the power 5 conferences. Kaaya could run through every defense in the coastal besides VT. They aren't even what they used to be. My expectation for the season have always been high due to this conference. We finally win 10 or 11 games this season and shock people. I've said that for 10 years now though. But let's be for real there's not a team in the ACC that we should be "shook" to play. If this conference is going to get respect. It needs Miami and Virginia Tech to rise in the coastal. It needs Clemson and FSU to stay where they are and we will start to get some national respect that we need in this playoff era. UNC and UL could be the two wild cards that takes the conference over the top.
 
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Oldman Cane. Jakes Heaps is good??? What are you basing that on?

He has been mediocre at best and has already failed at two rpograms
 
fivecent said:
OldManCane said:
We shouldn't have to "cut the field in half" or "simplify the offense" for any quarterback.

For me, it's not about having hope that Kaaya can succeed, for me he had BETTER succeed. He won't get any slack from me, or from the fan base, if he goes out there and makes freshman mistakes or if our offense isn't clicking due to being scaled down so much.

To me, this is ridiculous. Can this kid really go in to Louisville and win, beat Florida State, go to Blacksburg and win? We have a perfectly good, experienced quarterback in Jake Heaps and I gotta tell you.... this decision not to start him in favor of a true freshman who has never taken a snap in his life baffles me.

I hope to **** the staff knows what they're doing, because we're not grading on a curve. Anything less than 10 wins and a coastal division title is not acceptable.
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Complete speculation from my **** but:
I think a part of the calculus in starting Kaaya is the 2 games before Nebraska. We might see the 1/2 field plan against Lville and hope for a win, but then an attempt to expand the field in the 2 subsequent games. If the kid handles that and plays well a Ne, then he's in for the rest of the year. If he struggles at Nebraska with the full field, then either Heaps or Williams take over. Its easier to pull the freshman for the senior than the other way around.
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If the people paid to make these decisions feel like starting Kaaya gives us the best chance to win this year, then it's the right decision. I have my doubts.... not because of Kaaya because he seems to have everything you want in a quarterback.... but because of his age and inexperience. But, I haven't seen the scrimmages, I haven't been at practice, I'm not paid the big bucks to coach these kids.

Either way, the expectation is to win and to win now. Here's to hoping that the staff made the right call. We'll find out on Labor Day.
 
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LexCane55 said:
Oldman Cane. Jakes Heaps is good??? What are you basing that on?

He has been mediocre at best and has already failed at two rpograms
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I watched Kansas vs Oklahoma and he looked good. Better than Morris anyway. So hopefully Kaaya surprises me and is even better than both.

Like I said, I have my doubts just because of his inexperience, but we'll find out soon enough. Pulling for the kid to succeed though.
 
Morris has a lot of games he looked really good in. Your basing Heap is good on one start???
 
LexCane55 said:
Morris has a lot of games he looked really good in. Your basing Heap is good on one start???
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Did Morris look good against any decent teams? Oklahoma is a very good team. Heaps playing well against them with the **** talent he had around him at Kansas was impressive.
 
Great post OP! I personally dont think we will a ton of "half field" reads though. High school Sophs and Juniors could read a defense better then Morris. Our playbook may be dumbed down for Kaaya a bit, but not like it was for Morris. If Kaaya is the goods like most think..he will be able to scan the field and hit the WRs. He may be delayed a bit due to him being a true frosh, but that happens.
 
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Heaps last year vs OU was 5 for 13 for 16 yards

Thats playing well????

OU and Kansas must have played another game just for you that heaps played well in last year
 
LexCane55 said:
Oldman Cane. Jakes Heaps is good??? What are you basing that on?

He has been mediocre at best and has already failed at two rpograms
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OldManCAne is the guy who said that we'd miss Seantrel, but not Allen Hurns. He also said that Allen Hurns was a "participation" trophy-type player. Guy needs to stick to playing bridge and shuffleboard.
 
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weownfsu said:
LexCane55 said:
Oldman Cane. Jakes Heaps is good??? What are you basing that on?

He has been mediocre at best and has already failed at two rpograms
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OldManCAne is the guy who said that we'd miss Seantrel, but not Allen Hurns. He also said that Allen Hurns was a "participation" trophy-type player. Guy needs to stick to playing bridge and shuffleboard.
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We'll find out this year if we miss Seantrel or not... the offensive line this year concerns me some, WR doesn't.
 
OldManCane said:
weownfsu said:
LexCane55 said:
Oldman Cane. Jakes Heaps is good??? What are you basing that on?

He has been mediocre at best and has already failed at two rpograms
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OldManCAne is the guy who said that we'd miss Seantrel, but not Allen Hurns. He also said that Allen Hurns was a "participation" trophy-type player. Guy needs to stick to playing bridge and shuffleboard.
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We'll find out this year if we miss Seantrel or not... the offensive line this year concerns me some, WR doesn't.
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That's nice and all but your reasoning was that the NFL rejected Hurns and Seantrel was drafted in the 7th round. Looks like the NFL disagrees pretty strongly with you calling Hurns a participation trophy player.
 
weownfsu said:
OldManCane said:
weownfsu said:
LexCane55 said:
Oldman Cane. Jakes Heaps is good??? What are you basing that on?

He has been mediocre at best and has already failed at two rpograms
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OldManCAne is the guy who said that we'd miss Seantrel, but not Allen Hurns. He also said that Allen Hurns was a "participation" trophy-type player. Guy needs to stick to playing bridge and shuffleboard.
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We'll find out this year if we miss Seantrel or not... the offensive line this year concerns me some, WR doesn't.
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That's nice and all but your reasoning was that the NFL rejected Hurns and Seantrel was drafted in the 7th round. Looks like the NFL disagrees pretty strongly with you calling Hurns a participation trophy player.
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A lot of questions will be answered on Labor Day. About Kaaya, about the offensive line, about Golden.
 
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