BigPoppaCane
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IM EXPECTING GREATNESS AND EVENTUALLY UNSEATING DUKE
Lu, you view freeman and Yearby as similar players/prospects? I didn't pay much attention to Freeman coming out of high school. In college, I'd consider him solid.
Different styles, but similar level of prospects, yes. Yearby having a little more upside along the lines of Gio Bernard (some will disagree). Freeman was basically a 4.6 guy in the Combine. Bernard was a 4.53 guy. Freeman was 5' 8" 206. Bernard was 5' 8" 202. Both had fairly short arm length. Bernard had a great shuttle (objective) and burst (subjective), which is why Yearby has some of that upside. Weaknesses for both Freeman and Bernard revolved around "long speed" and size questions. That's the same question you'll have hang over Joe's head.
Yearby's style (not level of prospect, but manner of cuts, etc.) is more like Lesean Mccoy, as I think I've written before. Again, doesn't mean he'll ever be as good as Shady, but means he fits well with what evolving offenses are asking of RBs to do in space.
Lu, you view freeman and Yearby as similar players/prospects? I didn't pay much attention to Freeman coming out of high school. In college, I'd consider him solid.
Different styles, but similar level of prospects, yes. Yearby having a little more upside along the lines of Gio Bernard (some will disagree). Freeman was basically a 4.6 guy in the Combine. Bernard was a 4.53 guy. Freeman was 5' 8" 206. Bernard was 5' 8" 202. Both had fairly short arm length. Bernard had a great shuttle (objective) and burst (subjective), which is why Yearby has some of that upside. Weaknesses for both Freeman and Bernard revolved around "long speed" and size questions. That's the same question you'll have hang over Joe's head.
Yearby's style (not level of prospect, but manner of cuts, etc.) is more like Lesean Mccoy, as I think I've written before. Again, doesn't mean he'll ever be as good as Shady, but means he fits well with what evolving offenses are asking of RBs to do in space.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm fine with the Bernard comparison because I think bernard was a pretty dang good college football player. Again, maybe it's just me, but I look at bernard as being a good amount better than freeman.
Lu, you view freeman and Yearby as similar players/prospects? I didn't pay much attention to Freeman coming out of high school. In college, I'd consider him solid.
Different styles, but similar level of prospects, yes. Yearby having a little more upside along the lines of Gio Bernard (some will disagree). Freeman was basically a 4.6 guy in the Combine. Bernard was a 4.53 guy. Freeman was 5' 8" 206. Bernard was 5' 8" 202. Both had fairly short arm length. Bernard had a great shuttle (objective) and burst (subjective), which is why Yearby has some of that upside. Weaknesses for both Freeman and Bernard revolved around "long speed" and size questions. That's the same question you'll have hang over Joe's head.
Yearby's style (not level of prospect, but manner of cuts, etc.) is more like Lesean Mccoy, as I think I've written before. Again, doesn't mean he'll ever be as good as Shady, but means he fits well with what evolving offenses are asking of RBs to do in space.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm fine with the Bernard comparison because I think bernard was a pretty dang good college football player. Again, maybe it's just me, but I look at bernard as being a good amount better than freeman.
Y'all must forgot yearby is coley's guy. He will have over 5 ypc this year book it.
Change of pace. Some swing routes. Will juke at least a handful of guys out of their cleats.
85 Carries
395 yards
6 TDs
10 catches
110 yards
For historical references:
Devonta Freeman got 120 carries as a Frosh at FSU.
Gus Edwards got 66 carries last year.
I can't see him only averaging 4.6 per carry.
Very fair comment. I moved the total around a couple times. 4.6 would be on the low end. 5.5 would be on the high end of a prediction. So, you're looking at around an additional 70 yards if he gets to that high end. You're looking at about 35-40 somewhere in the middle.
I've had this discussion with D$ and I don't question his ability to rip off long(er) runs the way he wonders. D$ can speak for himself, but I think he mentioned he sees Yearby as a guy who gets 10, 10, 12, 10, etc. As opposed to a guy who rips off 40-50+. I don't think he's ripping off consistent 50+ yarders to get into the 6 ypc range like Duke did as a Frosh, but can see maybe a couple. These guys who "don't have long speed" have an incredible feel for angles and run to corners - ala Gore. I think that's what we'll see from Yearby.
Reference:
Devonta Freeman, in a similar 2011 offense to what we'll likely see this year, put up 4.8.
From the quotes we've heard recently about Gray I'd be interested to see just how much playing time he gets.He'll get his feet wet and get some serious burn against FAMU and if CANES are winning in a blowout
Really i was thinking he would be taken most of gus carries since Yearby is the second best rb on the team. Gus went from number 2 when Duke went down to number 4 on the team
He is going to get some serious run but he won't have the impact duke did. Gus is gunna be used short yardage (if he learned how to lower those pads) and Gray will be used in special kind of packages but yearby will get the bulk of regular carries of the backups. Plus unless Kaaya has a manziel/winston kind of impact were gunna run it quite a bit. It wouldn't shock me if he gets 600-800 yards and 5 or 6 TDs.
Don't see him getting much early - obviously super talented, but the coaches are talking about how he doesn't know the plays etc. You know they're sticklers for that (even though RB is the most instinctive position on the field).
I don't see Gus as a short yardage back - think that's still Duke. Edwards is a change pace back. He brings more size than Yearby or Duke, so it's something a little different for the defence to look at, but he's not a tough inside runner. Both he and Yearby will be used to spell Duke I think.
Lu, you view freeman and Yearby as similar players/prospects? I didn't pay much attention to Freeman coming out of high school. In college, I'd consider him solid.
Different styles, but similar level of prospects, yes. Yearby having a little more upside along the lines of Gio Bernard (some will disagree). Freeman was basically a 4.6 guy in the Combine. Bernard was a 4.53 guy. Freeman was 5' 8" 206. Bernard was 5' 8" 202. Both had fairly short arm length. Bernard had a great shuttle (objective) and burst (subjective), which is why Yearby has some of that upside. Weaknesses for both Freeman and Bernard revolved around "long speed" and size questions. That's the same question you'll have hang over Joe's head.
Yearby's style (not level of prospect, but manner of cuts, etc.) is more like Lesean Mccoy, as I think I've written before. Again, doesn't mean he'll ever be as good as Shady, but means he fits well with what evolving offenses are asking of RBs to do in space.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm fine with the Bernard comparison because I think bernard was a pretty dang good college football player. Again, maybe it's just me, but I look at bernard as being a good amount better than freeman.
Lu, you view freeman and Yearby as similar players/prospects? I didn't pay much attention to Freeman coming out of high school. In college, I'd consider him solid.
Different styles, but similar level of prospects, yes. Yearby having a little more upside along the lines of Gio Bernard (some will disagree). Freeman was basically a 4.6 guy in the Combine. Bernard was a 4.53 guy. Freeman was 5' 8" 206. Bernard was 5' 8" 202. Both had fairly short arm length. Bernard had a great shuttle (objective) and burst (subjective), which is why Yearby has some of that upside. Weaknesses for both Freeman and Bernard revolved around "long speed" and size questions. That's the same question you'll have hang over Joe's head.
Yearby's style (not level of prospect, but manner of cuts, etc.) is more like Lesean Mccoy, as I think I've written before. Again, doesn't mean he'll ever be as good as Shady, but means he fits well with what evolving offenses are asking of RBs to do in space.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm fine with the Bernard comparison because I think bernard was a pretty dang good college football player. Again, maybe it's just me, but I look at bernard as being a good amount better than freeman.
That's why I said, in terms of level of prospect, somewhere between Freeman and Bernard. If we get that, we're in serious business.