What am I missing?

[BS85]

There’s a reason why he doesn’t.

So they can get him to transfer?

 

[Juancane]

Ajay Allen is our best running back. Fletcher is you best all around back in my opinion. Damien is very good. I think he just waits entirely too long to find the open seam to run. Sometimes that can bite you in the *** instead of taking the best option first.

I like Allen alot also. One thing I will say is, that I wish we'd go under center a little bit more and run. That handoff to Martinez as he stands next to Ward goes really slow sometimes.

 

[KingB02]

I was kinda hoping Lyle would play his way into more touches by now. Wonder if it's a blocking/playbook thing with him.

CJ is speed, but currently a one-screen pony. Would love to see him in the slot running 9s and clearing out space, but first he has to be perceived as a threat.

I still hold out hope that as teams start scheming more for Cam's arm, some of these running lanes are gonna open up. Getting Rivers back is not nothing either.

CJ hasn’t had enough reps to say he’s a one trick pony yet. He can run the ball, just hasn’t had many chances. Dude needs 10 touches a game at least!! Because on any one of them, he can go alll the way

 

[JZCane0825]

I want to see Allen play more and less of Martinez. My personal belief is that Shannon lacks imagination and how to get the ball to our most gifted and speedly backs. His offensive play calling blows and the guy who makes everything happen is CAM THE MAN. With the talent we have Dawson falls woefully short of a successful and imaginative offensive coordinator. Fletcher should be the main featured back and that's very apparent.

So the OC in charge of the #1 offense in America lacks imagination? Please cite examples.

You’re an extremely negative porster but this is dense even for you

 

[bshaw28]

Fumbles are overrated? Holy **** are you kidding me?

If you truly think fumbles are the most important stat for a RB, then yes, you are overrating fumbles.

1) Brashard Smith only has 1 (maybe 2) fumbles this year

2) The importance Turnovers and especially fumbles are on a sliding scale relative to how talented the player is.

Tuten @VT is #2 in the ACC in rushing. He averages 7.0 ypc but has 4 fumbles.
Smith @SMU is #3 in the ACC in rushing. He averages 6.8 ypc but has 1-2 fumbles.
Thomas @Duke is #7 in the ACC in rushing. He averages 4.7 ypc but has 1 fumble.
Martinez @Miami is #17 in the ACC in rushing. He averages 4.4 ypc and has 0 fumbles.

If all 4 were on the same team, what would your RB depth chart be?

 

[DTP]

So they can get him to transfer?

Maybe.

Guys usually don’t get burried on the depth chart or passed up by freshmen because they’re tearing it up.

 

[FrancisSawyer]

There’s a reason why he doesn’t.

And why is that exactly?

 

[Combo]

CJ hasn’t had enough reps to say he’s a one trick pony yet. He can run the ball, just hasn’t had many chances. Dude needs 10 touches a game at least!! Because on any one of them, he can go alll the way

CJ, Lyle, Fletcher, and Allen all "need" 10 touches a game. As does Martinez. But we obviously can't devote anywhere near 50 touches a game to our RBs because we're a passing team, as we should be with Cam, X, and Co. Everybody was clamoring for us to open up the offense and we've done exactly that.

We have a good problem. We have 4, maybe 5, quality RBs. I'm not sure CJ is currently capable of being an every-down back. He's still too light.

And Martinez is w/o a doubt a quality RB. It's just that our current system isn't optimal for him. But we have to use that system with a weapon like Cam at our disposal.

I don't think we have any significant problems on offense. Our legit problem is our secondary and I'm not sure that can be fixed this season.

 

[DTP]

And why is that exactly?

The coaches have specific sets and plays for him to best use his dynamic speed. But he’s not an every down running back. It’s not just his size or blocking ability.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

If you truly think fumbles are the most important stat for a RB, then yes, you are overrating fumbles.

1) Brashard Smith only has 1 (maybe 2) fumbles this year

2) The importance Turnovers and especially fumbles are on a sliding scale relative to how talented the player is.

Tuten @VT is #2 in the ACC in rushing. He averages 7.0 ypc but has 4 fumbles.
Smith @SMU is #3 in the ACC in rushing. He averages 6.8 ypc but has 1-2 fumbles.
Thomas @Duke is #7 in the ACC in rushing. He averages 4.7 ypc but has 1 fumble.
Martinez @Miami is #17 in the ACC in rushing. He averages 4.4 ypc and has 0 fumbles.

If all 4 were on the same team, what would your RB depth chart be?

He fumbled twice in the BYU game…..you just sound like a frickin fool.

 

[bshaw28]

He fumbled twice in the BYU game…..you just sound like a frickin fool.

And outside of BYU - how many times has Brashard Smith fumbled? Is it zero?

And ESPN credited Smith with losing 2 fumbles, correct? But did he?

Or do Brashard Smith & Brandon Crossley both wear #1 for SMU, and the punt that bounced off Crossley get incorrectly credited to Smith?

You can call me a fool (many agree with you) - but I'm smart enough to know that like my depth chart question you avoided, you probably also won't answer any of my questions above.

 

[#1cane]

I look at our RB room and see Fletcher average 6 yards per carry, Lyle 7.2, Allen 8.4, Johnson 5.2, Wheatley-Humphrey 7 and Martinez 4.4 and wonder why Martinez has almost twice as many carries as the other RB's. I am disappointed to see our main ball carrier only has 292 yards halfway through the season. Is Martinez that much better at blocking to jusitfy him carrying the load? We have Home Run hitters sitting on the bench, Lyle has the only real breakaway TD run of 91 yards. We know how good Fletcher is based on his performance last year against Clemson and Lyle has been a pleasant surprise and we know Johnson is super fast, so what am I missing?

Is one of these on our bench?

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I look at our RB room and see Fletcher average 6 yards per carry, Lyle 7.2, Allen 8.4, Johnson 5.2, Wheatley-Humphrey 7 and Martinez 4.4 and wonder why Martinez has almost twice as many carries as the other RB's. I am disappointed to see our main ball carrier only has 292 yards halfway through the season. Is Martinez that much better at blocking to jusitfy him carrying the load? We have Home Run hitters sitting on the bench, Lyle has the only real breakaway TD run of 91 yards. We know how good Fletcher is based on his performance last year against Clemson and Lyle has been a pleasant surprise and we know Johnson is super fast, so what am I missing?

Is one of these on our bench?

The 10 greatest running backs in Miami Hurricanes football history

Which ten running backs stand atop the Hurricanes’ record books throughout Miami’s near century of college football?

caneswarning.com

That the coaches know what they are doing. They are at every practice.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

And outside of BYU - how many times has Brashard Smith fumbled? Is it zero?

And ESPN credited Smith with losing 2 fumbles, correct? But did he?

Or do Brashard Smith & Brandon Crossley both wear #1 for SMU, and the punt that bounced off Crossley get incorrectly credited to Smith?

You can call me a fool (many agree with you) - but I'm smart enough to know that like my depth chart question you avoided, you probably also won't answer any of my questions above.

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Man your responses to me just get worse and worse. I’m done dealing with someone like you. This is like talking to a brick wall. You have to be related to Smith.

And no I’m not ever going to bother responding to your questions. You don’t deserve anymore of my time.

 

[Squid Bumciorek]

I look at our RB room and see Fletcher average 6 yards per carry, Lyle 7.2, Allen 8.4, Johnson 5.2, Wheatley-Humphrey 7 and Martinez 4.4 and wonder why Martinez has almost twice as many carries as the other RB's. I am disappointed to see our main ball carrier only has 292 yards halfway through the season. Is Martinez that much better at blocking to jusitfy him carrying the load? We have Home Run hitters sitting on the bench, Lyle has the only real breakaway TD run of 91 yards. We know how good Fletcher is based on his performance last year against Clemson and Lyle has been a pleasant surprise and we know Johnson is super fast, so what am I missing?

Is one of these on our bench?

The 10 greatest running backs in Miami Hurricanes football history

Which ten running backs stand atop the Hurricanes’ record books throughout Miami’s near century of college football?

caneswarning.com

Our best player is Heisman candidate leader Cam Ward. We pass a lot. Martinez is reliable and an excellent blocker. The trade off is he isn’t as fast as some others. He is a workhorse, I think he is a lot like Parrish last season except Martinez is better at short yardage. Parrish wasn’t the fastest but was the starter because he is a complete back.

 

[mr.h]

He catches a lot of criticism from some but I've loved what I've seen from Mark Fletcher.

Fletcher does as well as he does because of Martinez splitting the heavy duties.
Whenever Lyle comes in the defense knows he’s getting the ball..just saying.

 

[mcnaire2004]

Through six games, Martinez already has the best pass-catching season of his career. Don't overlook this.

Not much of a career then

 

[Brains]

Not much of a career then

You're an FSU fan. Can it

 

[mcnaire2004]

You're an FSU fan. Can it

No to go calling somebody something like that.

 

[Dre]

Fletcher does as well as he does because of Martinez splitting the heavy duties.
Whenever Lyle comes in the defense knows he’s getting the ball..just saying.

Man you think that's the case for Lyle, Chris Johnson is even more absurd.

And I'm a fan of context but at some point the production is the production and I'd continue to test that more to see if it remains with the increased workload.

 

[FrancisSawyer]

The coaches have specific sets and plays for him to best use his dynamic speed. But he’s not an every down running back. It’s not just his size or blocking ability.

I understand that but it's not like his size is unprecedented in the sport. He's not Jordan Lyle obviously but there are many running backs who are his size or even smaller who are very effective at this level.

Also, Dawson said before the season that he feels very comfortable running the offense with Johnson at RB without having and special plays for him. Maybe that was coachspeak BS but Dawson has always been straightforward.