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I'm ok with that head shoting fsu players is a plus in my eyes . Hope he knocks one of the wr out cold . Might be why we're loading up on safeties
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You do, Im just not sure I see one yet. We have some hopefuls, but nobody has been able to put it 100% together. R Jenkins had the range but was a terrible tackler.
Don't know if he needs a redshirt, kid will be a terror on special teams from day one and will surprise a lot of you guys.
I love our Safety class, and IMO it is severely underrated.
IMO all 3 safety commits deserve 4stars.
Smith would be a 4star Safety if he would have qualified sooner with the exposure his HS gets.
Carter is nasty and IMO definitely a 4star, and Gibson is a beast too, who I feel is underrated as well with a high ceiling.
Put it this way, I would take any 3 of these Safeties over Romeo Finley if they were in the same class and Romeo was a 4star.
I'm glad Romeo is a Cane, but way more excited about these 3.
I love our Safety class, and IMO it is severely underrated.
IMO all 3 safety commits deserve 4stars.
Smith would be a 4star Safety if he would have qualified sooner with the exposure his HS gets.
Carter is nasty and IMO definitely a 4star, and Gibson is a beast too, who I feel is underrated as well with a high ceiling.
Put it this way, I would take any 3 of these Safeties over Romeo Finley if they were in the same class and Romeo was a 4star.
I'm glad Romeo is a Cane, but way more excited about these 3.
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smith issue was apparently grades like you said. they obviously thought he was good enough that they wanted him over collier who this board loves.
Well, then you must be one of those people I mentioned...
Kid is way better than Rayshawn Jenkins coming out of HS.
But keep hating on the kid, you will be singing a different tune in a few years.
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Jenkins that has 200 plus tackles 9 ints in his career at Miami? Jenkins has been one of miamis better safeties since Kenny Phillips left... his production exceeded deon bush's if we being honest..
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I like the kid's tape alot. My only worry is he's gonna wrack up 4/5 BS targeting penalties a year.
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No he's not WAY better than anyone. Lol.
Dude is a future LB.
You must be a relative of his.
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Based on the highlight package, he is a good sized kid who looks like a hitter and a playmaker, but he doesn't look very fast to me. He looks more like a linebacker to me. What is his 40 time?
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Not a relative at all, just know good football when I see it, and even if he outgrows Safety (never know how some of these kids might grow) he will make a **** of an OLB/S hybrid like Grace that Diaz likes to use in his system. Remember Grace played S in HS too.
Please go back and compare Rayshawn's HS highlights to the ones I just posted and honestly say that Smith isn't a better prospect.
Smith is a violent player and those are my favorite on defense.
No need for anymore back and forth, if you truly don't see it, then you will be pleasantly surprised in a few years.
This kid is way better than Collier who we were considering offering until Smith who we have been on for over a year for good reason qualified.
Also Smith's coach said he is already a legit 6'3 205, so like I said, we don't know how he might grow, but adding a violent player like Smith to our defense can only be looked at as a positive IMO.
Please go back and compare Rayshawn's HS highlights to the ones I just posted and honestly say that Smith isn't a better prospect.
Smith is a violent player and those are my favorite on defense.
No need for anymore back and forth, if you truly don't see it, then you will be pleasantly surprised in a few years.
This kid is way better than Collier who we were considering offering until Smith who we have been on for over a year for good reason qualified.
Also Smith's coach said he is already a legit 6'3 205, so like I said, we don't know how he might grow, but adding a violent player like Smith to our defense can only be looked at as a positive IMO.
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Context seems to escape the thought process of many Canes fans. Regardless of Smith's potential (always like a safety who plays WR too), dogging on Jenkins seems unwarranted.
Facts:
Produced stats at the position
If he was so bad, somebody else would have played (but guess what they didn't have a better option)
Played three years under questionable at best coaching
At one time had a career threatening back issue/injury (so again extrapolating that it would stand to reason it probably had some effect on production)
All withstanding I am not saying Jenkins was anything better than average, but using a player with all of the above to consider is not a good measuring stick. Instead, just watch the tape and see what skills Smith has and judge that considering the team he played on and the competition.
Safety is the least of this classes concerns. All comes down to WR/CB/OL.
Facts:
Produced stats at the position
If he was so bad, somebody else would have played (but guess what they didn't have a better option)
Played three years under questionable at best coaching
At one time had a career threatening back issue/injury (so again extrapolating that it would stand to reason it probably had some effect on production)
All withstanding I am not saying Jenkins was anything better than average, but using a player with all of the above to consider is not a good measuring stick. Instead, just watch the tape and see what skills Smith has and judge that considering the team he played on and the competition.
Safety is the least of this classes concerns. All comes down to WR/CB/OL.
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The only issue I see with him his he goes for the knockout hit and against beast rba, wrs and the if they don't go down they may go all the way. Banda has to get him to know when to go for those hits and when he needs to just wrap up
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He doesn't look like he would be very comfortable to sleep on, so I will take your advice OP.
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What the stats on Jenkins don't show are all the errors in critical games. You can be productive and still not be good.
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If you don't know how to tackle you wouldn't understand why I said that is his biggest con. But as a poster already stated coaching will get that corrected.
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hope a dik drops in your mouth while its open
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rayshawn jenkins has been our best safety in the last 4 years. Not sure why he is always brought up. He was slightly above average,and had good ball skills.
Rayshawn and this kid other than both playing wr and db have no other similarities.
Rayshawn was a way better wr in high school than Smith, but Smith is wayyyyyy more violent and a better tackler.
Smith is a good take regardless who is around. At worst he makes our specials better. Romeo Finley looked good on specials this year..im expecting a similar path for Smith..IMO Smith has a higher ceiling.
Rayshawn and this kid other than both playing wr and db have no other similarities.
Rayshawn was a way better wr in high school than Smith, but Smith is wayyyyyy more violent and a better tackler.
Smith is a good take regardless who is around. At worst he makes our specials better. Romeo Finley looked good on specials this year..im expecting a similar path for Smith..IMO Smith has a higher ceiling.
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