WE Will have a Top 15 Defense in CFB

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Our schedule is garbage, FSU is the only good team we play.

Clearly you're trolling, our schedule is tougher this year than it was last year

who is elite besides FSU?
What don't you understand, we're not elite, we're not even good, we're mediocre, big question marks at QB and DT

bc other ACC teams dont have question marks. We play in the worst conference in football and don't even play the second best team in Clemson.
 
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WE have so much talent in the secondary and our pass rush will be much improved along with one of the best MLB's in CFB.
This is the year we are relevant on defense again.


Top 15 in reality isn't happening, the D line has to step up, I haven't seen one great player at that position yet. They don't step up we don't win, simple as that. They were way below average last year, I hope they get better, average players make average plays, imo.
 
WE have so much talent in the secondary and our pass rush will be much improved along with one of the best MLB's in CFB.
This is the year we are relevant on defense again.


Top 15 in reality isn't happening, the D line has to step up, I haven't seen one great player at that position yet. They don't step up we don't win, simple as that. They were way below average last year, I hope they get better, average players make average plays, imo.

I think Bush and Howard will become very good this year if not great. Artie Burns is a star in the making.
 
Our schedule is garbage, FSU is the only good team we play.

Clearly you're trolling, our schedule is tougher this year than it was last year

who is elite besides FSU?
What don't you understand, we're not elite, we're not even good, we're mediocre, big question marks at QB and DT

bc other ACC teams dont have question marks. We play in the worst conference in football and don't even play the second best team in Clemson.

But we can't beat the likes of Duke, and squeak by Wake Forest, with what coaching you expecting all of this to happen?
 
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You can't just start a thread like this on CiS, and expect to have a rational conversation regarding football.

Stop being irrational.

I'm not being irrational. I'm not on either side of the "Mopes vs Golden **** riders". I just wanna be able to have a decent football conversation on here without a ******* full fledged internet battle over why golden is or isnt ******. Its ***n ridiculous at this point. Rok has literally made 3 threads in the last day all regarding the same ******* thing, and each one has 5 pages of guys bashing the staff simply for the sake of bashing the staff. I want to be able to enjoy this once great forum again. Thats all.
 
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Clearly you're trolling, our schedule is tougher this year than it was last year

who is elite besides FSU?
What don't you understand, we're not elite, we're not even good, we're mediocre, big question marks at QB and DT

bc other ACC teams dont have question marks. We play in the worst conference in football and don't even play the second best team in Clemson.

But we can't be the likes of Duke, and squeak by Wake Forest, with what coaching you expecting all of this to happen?

I already explained this, we had Shannon's trash players starting last year like Shayon Green. Golden's recruits are finally upperclassmen, Shannon left golden a complete pile of crap. We lost to Duke b/c we didnt have Dorsett or Duke.
 
You can't just start a thread like this on CiS, and expect to have a rational conversation regarding football.

Stop being irrational.

I'm not being irrational. I'm not on either side of the "Mopes vs Golden **** riders". I just wanna be able to have a decent football conversation on here without a ******* full fledged internet battle over why golden is or isnt ******. Its ***n ridiculous at this point. Rok has literally made 3 threads in the last day all regarding the same ******* thing, and each one has 5 pages of guys bashing the staff simply for the sake of bashing the staff. I want to be able to enjoy this once great forum again. Thats all.
If we won games we were supposed to, like Duke or VT last year, and not get our **** pushed in by good teams like FSU and Louisville you'll have your sunshine and rainbows back.
 
who is elite besides FSU?
What don't you understand, we're not elite, we're not even good, we're mediocre, big question marks at QB and DT

bc other ACC teams dont have question marks. We play in the worst conference in football and don't even play the second best team in Clemson.

But we can't be the likes of Duke, and squeak by Wake Forest, with what coaching you expecting all of this to happen?

I already explained this, we had Shannon's trash players starting last year like Shayon Green. Golden's recruits are finally upperclassmen, Shannon left golden a complete pile of crap. We lost to Duke b/c we didnt have Dorsett or Duke.

Excuses, excuses, excuses...and you really believe that?? So you mean to tell me that teams like Duke & Wake recruit equally or better talent than us? Man go sit down somewhere, ain't nobody buying that, coaching is terrible, not yea I'll say we didn't have Miami caliber talent that we're accustom to having down here but **** the talent level to fall to Duke and Wake standards even with injuries.
 
What don't you understand, we're not elite, we're not even good, we're mediocre, big question marks at QB and DT

bc other ACC teams dont have question marks. We play in the worst conference in football and don't even play the second best team in Clemson.

But we can't be the likes of Duke, and squeak by Wake Forest, with what coaching you expecting all of this to happen?

I already explained this, we had Shannon's trash players starting last year like Shayon Green. Golden's recruits are finally upperclassmen, Shannon left golden a complete pile of crap. We lost to Duke b/c we didnt have Dorsett or Duke.

Excuses, excuses, excuses...and you really believe that?? So you mean to tell me that teams like Duke & Wake recruit equally or better talent than us? Man go sit down somewhere, ain't nobody buying that, coaching is terrible, not yea I'll say we didn't have Miami caliber talent that we're accustom to having down here but **** the talent level to fall to Duke and Wake standards even with injuries.

We beat WF and Duke had a succesful season last year. Duke had players who were upperclassmen in their system which we didn't. Why don't you wait for Goldens recruits to be seniors to judge him?
 
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You can't just start a thread like this on CiS, and expect to have a rational conversation regarding football.

Stop being irrational.

I'm not being irrational. I'm not on either side of the "Mopes vs Golden **** riders". I just wanna be able to have a decent football conversation on here without a ******* full fledged internet battle over why golden is or isnt ******. Its ***n ridiculous at this point. Rok has literally made 3 threads in the last day all regarding the same ******* thing, and each one has 5 pages of guys bashing the staff simply for the sake of bashing the staff. I want to be able to enjoy this once great forum again. Thats all.

Woah, easy there bhall60.

I was being sarcastic. There isn't any reason to get upset.

Whether you agree with Rok or not, he's generating more discussion and hits to this site.
 
You can't just start a thread like this on CiS, and expect to have a rational conversation regarding football.

Stop being irrational.

I'm not being irrational. I'm not on either side of the "Mopes vs Golden **** riders". I just wanna be able to have a decent football conversation on here without a ******* full fledged internet battle over why golden is or isnt ******. Its ***n ridiculous at this point. Rok has literally made 3 threads in the last day all regarding the same ******* thing, and each one has 5 pages of guys bashing the staff simply for the sake of bashing the staff. I want to be able to enjoy this once great forum again. Thats all.

Not going to happen. There are about 20-30 posters that hate golden and will turn every thread into a battle. If you mention a positive about the program then you are a slurper and immediately called a idiot.

This site was once great for football conversation but them days will never be seen again.
 
You can't just start a thread like this on CiS, and expect to have a rational conversation regarding football.

Stop being irrational.

I'm not being irrational. I'm not on either side of the "Mopes vs Golden **** riders". I just wanna be able to have a decent football conversation on here without a ****ing full fledged internet battle over why golden is or isnt ****ty. Its ***n ridiculous at this point. Rok has literally made 3 threads in the last day all regarding the same ****ing thing, and each one has 5 pages of guys bashing the staff simply for the sake of bashing the staff. I want to be able to enjoy this once great forum again. Thats all.
If we won games we were supposed to, like Duke or VT last year, and not get our **** pushed in by good teams like FSU and Louisville you'll have your sunshine and rainbows back.

buddies way of saying Mope City will be on the rag for at least another month, minimum.
 
You can't just start a thread like this on CiS, and expect to have a rational conversation regarding football.

Stop being irrational.

I'm not being irrational. I'm not on either side of the "Mopes vs Golden **** riders". I just wanna be able to have a decent football conversation on here without a ****ing full fledged internet battle over why golden is or isnt ****ty. Its ***n ridiculous at this point. Rok has literally made 3 threads in the last day all regarding the same ****ing thing, and each one has 5 pages of guys bashing the staff simply for the sake of bashing the staff. I want to be able to enjoy this once great forum again. Thats all.
If we won games we were supposed to, like Duke or VT last year, and not get our **** pushed in by good teams like FSU and Louisville you'll have your sunshine and rainbows back.

buddies way of saying Mope City will be on the rag for at least another month, minimum.

Yes. What is there to be happy about? Any good team we played last year whooped our *** and any team with a pulse gave us a run for our money.
 
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bc other ACC teams dont have question marks. We play in the worst conference in football and don't even play the second best team in Clemson.

But we can't be the likes of Duke, and squeak by Wake Forest, with what coaching you expecting all of this to happen?

I already explained this, we had Shannon's trash players starting last year like Shayon Green. Golden's recruits are finally upperclassmen, Shannon left golden a complete pile of crap. We lost to Duke b/c we didnt have Dorsett or Duke.

Excuses, excuses, excuses...and you really believe that?? So you mean to tell me that teams like Duke & Wake recruit equally or better talent than us? Man go sit down somewhere, ain't nobody buying that, coaching is terrible, not yea I'll say we didn't have Miami caliber talent that we're accustom to having down here but **** the talent level to fall to Duke and Wake standards even with injuries.

We beat WF and Duke had a succesful season last year. Duke had players who were upperclassmen in their system which we didn't. Why don't you wait for Goldens recruits to be seniors to judge him?

We've been waiting for quite some time, many of us would have more patience if we've seen significant progress in his plans, but we only see minimal and that's being generous. And yes we did beat Wake, I thought I said we squeaked by Wake in a matter of seconds, **** we might as well loss the way we played at home. Absolutely no reason that should be happening but go ahead and continue with your excuses.
 
You can't just start a thread like this on CiS, and expect to have a rational conversation regarding football.

Stop being irrational.

I'm not being irrational. I'm not on either side of the "Mopes vs Golden **** riders". I just wanna be able to have a decent football conversation on here without a ****ing full fledged internet battle over why golden is or isnt ****ty. Its ***n ridiculous at this point. Rok has literally made 3 threads in the last day all regarding the same ****ing thing, and each one has 5 pages of guys bashing the staff simply for the sake of bashing the staff. I want to be able to enjoy this once great forum again. Thats all.
Very well said...

Every thread turns into posters insulting each other like we are not fans of the same team.
 
This is only his 4th season as HC, RAndy Shannon destroyed our program; most coaches would have bailed from the dump that was left on Golden's doorstep. this is the first year that he's upperclassmen are starting, so relax and watch progression this year.
 
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You can't just start a thread like this on CiS, and expect to have a rational conversation regarding football.

Stop being irrational.

I'm not being irrational. I'm not on either side of the "Mopes vs Golden **** riders". I just wanna be able to have a decent football conversation on here without a ****ing full fledged internet battle over why golden is or isnt ****ty. Its ***n ridiculous at this point. Rok has literally made 3 threads in the last day all regarding the same ****ing thing, and each one has 5 pages of guys bashing the staff simply for the sake of bashing the staff. I want to be able to enjoy this once great forum again. Thats all.
Very well said...

Every thread turns into posters insulting each other like we are not fans of the same team.

You know every poster is Nick Saban defensively.
 
LOL, yes, you're right bhall. You can't start a thread saying we're going to have a top 15 defense in CFB when we had a defense ranked in the 100's last year and expect to have a rational conversation. Because the thread's premise is illogical and irrational to begin with.
 
Name a defensive player that Golden inherited that was good from Shannon. There legit isn't one..
 
2009 class- Ray Ray got booted from the team, Vernon- bailed early, shayon green- blew
2010- Kacy Rodgers lmao

ya golden blows man, the guy basically got dealt the worst possible hand on earth.
 
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