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Wade Phillips as UM's Defensive Consultant?

Isn't that why you have a DefCoord? We don't need no stinkin' Defensive Consultant! D'onofrio is more than capable!
 
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Paranos said:
Andrew said:
If Golden was to bring in anyone it would be Al Groh.
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Andrew a little FYI Al Golden taught the 3-4 scheme to Al Grogh which is why Grogh brought Golden to UVA.

Read Al Goldens UVA Bio
http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/golden_al00.html

This is why a completely outside perspective on changing Goldens 3-4 scheme.

Go Canes
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If Golden knew his 3-4 system well enough to come in and implement for a head coach as an assistant, why do you believe he is willing to give another, outside coach a chance to come in an critique and refine his system? If Golden is expert enough on this scheme to install it as an asst., then I doubt he would be willing to have it tinkered with.
 
Here is an article about how Texas hired Greg Robinson for $63k a season to be their defensive consulant. UM could do the very same thing but rather focus on scheme and play book overhaul. Not to mention Phillips will be sitting at home this year doing nothing so this would be a great side job, not to mention if he can get UM's defense turned around that would be a great supplement to his NFL resume.

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2013/7/17/4533230/mack-brown-hires-greg-robinson

The University of Texas quietly announced this evening that Mack Brown had hired former co-defensive coordinator Greg Robinson for the position of football analyst in the player personnel department.

The press release spins Robinson's role as that of a consultant who will handle quality control evaluation for the team and assist in video review and scouting.

Robinson is also quoted at length as saying that he's not there to look over defensive coordinator Manny Diaz's shoulder. To wit:

In (defensive coordinator) Manny (Diaz's) case, I don't want it in any way for him to feel like he has someone looking over his shoulder at all. That's not what I'm there for. I don't want to in any way inhibit him or any of the coaches. Mack and I talked about that, and that was important to me. I want these coaches to know that I'm there for them and just to be helpful and provide any information I can find, to review, study and provide them data that they'll have access to. That was really important to me and Mack agreed that was the right way. That's how I see this working.
Brown and Robinson can say whatever they want, but many (including perhaps me) will wonder if Robinson's role will eventually morph into that of an adult accountability partner for Diaz. On the one hand, hiring a former coach with a wealth of experience for this role makes a lot of sense. On the other hand, the particular choice is a tad curious. Robinson is obviously in the Mack Brown trust tree, but his previous service as defensive coordinator in 2004 is bound to produce a few furrowed brows given the heat on Diaz to substantially improve the defense over last season's disastrous performance.

Since leaving Texas after the Rose Bowl win over Michigan, Robinson had an unsuccessful tenure as head coach at Syracuse (2005-2008) and a two-year stint as the defensive coordinator at Michigan (2009-2010). Robinson also coached for 14 years in the NFL, including 10 years as a DC at various stops. He ran the defense in Denver for the Broncos' back-to-back Super Bowl titles in 1997-1998.

Brown also said that the Robinson hire rounds out the staffing for the player personnel department

 
jmccomber5 said:
Paranos said:
Andrew said:
If Golden was to bring in anyone it would be Al Groh.
Click to expand...

Andrew a little FYI Al Golden taught the 3-4 scheme to Al Grogh which is why Grogh brought Golden to UVA.

Read Al Goldens UVA Bio
http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/golden_al00.html

This is why a completely outside perspective on changing Goldens 3-4 scheme.

Go Canes
Click to expand...

If Golden knew his 3-4 system well enough to come in and implement for a head coach as an assistant, why do you believe he is willing to give another, outside coach a chance to come in an critique and refine his system? If Golden is expert enough on this scheme to install it as an asst., then I doubt he would be willing to have it tinkered with.
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Well his scheme is getting its *** kicked multiple times a year so something has to change, last year UM literally had one the worst defenses in the country for the 2nd year in a row.

NCAA stats page
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/23
 
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Paranos said:
Andrew said:
If Golden was to bring in anyone it would be Al Groh.
Click to expand...

Andrew a little FYI Al Golden taught the 3-4 scheme to Al Grogh which is why Grogh brought Golden to UVA.

Read Al Goldens UVA Bio
http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/golden_al00.html

This is why a completely outside perspective on changing Goldens 3-4 scheme.

Go Canes
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Al Groh had a long history of being involved with various defenses, including the 3-4 before he ever set eyes on Al Golden. I don't think Golden taught Al Groh anything about the 3-4. This line from that bio
Golden, who was instrumental in installing the 3-4 system in Charlottesville in 2001
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doesn't mean he taught anything to Groh. I'll bet all the D coaches were "instrumental" in installing the defense, not just the LB coach. Those bios are puff pieces and should not be taken too literally.
 
LUcanesfan said:
If UM hires a defensive consultant to fix the defense, it will further prove that Al's buddy is in over his head. I don't think Al would want to step on his friend's toes. It might violate the Butt-Buddy rule book.

What we could do is hire more "assistants" to the staff in "non-coaching" positions. This is what Alabama and FSU does... I wish we could spend 10k to 20k on a consultant. Unfortunately, our budget won't allow it.
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I don't think it has anything to do with D'Onof, if anything it would reflect negatively on Al and his OWN defense.
 
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Paranos said:
Andrew said:
If Golden was to bring in anyone it would be Al Groh.
Click to expand...

Andrew a little FYI Al Golden taught the 3-4 scheme to Al Grogh which is why Grogh brought Golden to UVA.

Read Al Goldens UVA Bio
http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/golden_al00.html

This is why a completely outside perspective on changing Goldens 3-4 scheme.

Go Canes
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If Golden really did teach Groh the 3-4 then Groh is a bigger ****** than we all thought and lulz at Golden teaching anyone defense. He and Dorito are the absolute worst defensive minds I've ever seen.
 
Paranos being Paranos.

Maybe UM can bring Willy Wonka into the cafeteria to help with desserts too.
 
Dingaan1828 said:
Paranos said:
Andrew said:
If Golden was to bring in anyone it would be Al Groh.
Click to expand...

Andrew a little FYI Al Golden taught the 3-4 scheme to Al Grogh which is why Grogh brought Golden to UVA.

Read Al Goldens UVA Bio
http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/golden_al00.html

This is why a completely outside perspective on changing Goldens 3-4 scheme.

Go Canes
Click to expand...

Al Groh had a long history of being involved with various defenses, including the 3-4 before he ever set eyes on Al Golden. I don't think Golden taught Al Groh anything about the 3-4. This line from that bio
Golden, who was instrumental in installing the 3-4 system in Charlottesville in 2001
Click to expand...
doesn't mean he taught anything to Groh. I'll bet all the D coaches were "instrumental" in installing the defense, not just the LB coach. Those bios are puff pieces and should not be taken too literally.
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Shhhh!!! You're talking to Paraboycane. This dude has made a cottage industry of taking stray lines from bios and ascribing deep meaning to them. He's invented NCAA rules that don't exist. He's the most interesting ****** in the world.

LULZ at Fat Al teaching Al Blow the 3-4.
 
The Franchise said:
Dingaan1828 said:
Paranos said:
Andrew said:
If Golden was to bring in anyone it would be Al Groh.
Click to expand...

Andrew a little FYI Al Golden taught the 3-4 scheme to Al Grogh which is why Grogh brought Golden to UVA.

Read Al Goldens UVA Bio
http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/golden_al00.html

This is why a completely outside perspective on changing Goldens 3-4 scheme.

Go Canes
Click to expand...

Al Groh had a long history of being involved with various defenses, including the 3-4 before he ever set eyes on Al Golden. I don't think Golden taught Al Groh anything about the 3-4. This line from that bio
Golden, who was instrumental in installing the 3-4 system in Charlottesville in 2001
Click to expand...
doesn't mean he taught anything to Groh. I'll bet all the D coaches were "instrumental" in installing the defense, not just the LB coach. Those bios are puff pieces and should not be taken too literally.
Click to expand...

Shhhh!!! You're talking to Paraboycane. This dude has made a cottage industry of taking stray lines from bios and ascribing deep meaning to them. He's invented NCAA rules that don't exist. He's the most interesting ****** in the world.

LULZ at Fat Al teaching Al Blow the 3-4.
Click to expand...

Shhhhhh.

I got an "infraction" for calling Paranos special.
 
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