Utough Weight Room results for DEFENSE

[mirvin88]

Swasey must have nudes of Donna

This is bull****

 

[AllbouttheU]

Why does Duke weigh more than Grace?

Nm

 

[DeadPoets]

Moar decreasing power cleans!

Makes no sense. Power Clean #s, vertical #s, and deadlift mean more to me than anything else (functional strength).

Powerlifters vs bodybuilders
Powerlifters move weight around fast, do less reps, take more time between sets, and have numerous different stances/hand positions/movements depending on the lift and which muscle group they intend to use.

E.g. of this is the squat. A powerlifter will break at the hips & "sit back in the hole" forcing him to drive out with his hips firing... whereas a bodybuilder will break at the knees and put more emphasis on his quad development. Powerlifters put more emphasis on their posterior chains than body builders do (or strength coaches who don't know what they're doing).

So when you see our players weight go up they are definitely adding muscle but it's not functional and in most cases it's not in the right muscle groups (notice many of our players have HUGE upper bodies and tiny lower bodies. These guys should have massive glutes).

Another lift I wish we saw #s for is deadlifts.

The most important lifts for a powerlifter are Squats, Deads, Cleans, Bench. And again... how they are taught is the key.

Don't undersell the quads. The quads are critically important for knee stability, acceleration and deceleration. You'll also see a lot of powerlifters using a high bar squat which is quad dominant and a lot of those use weightlifting shoes which make the lift even more quad dominant. Powerlifters also don't utilize the clean. That's weightlifting.

I'm with you, though, in some sense. The vert number is the one I'd put the most stock into out of all of these.

I'm with you - quad development for the sake of knee stability is important and powerlifters work it in occasionally.

Another technique that varies is the bench. Powerlifters "bend the bar" in on the eccentric portion of the lift as a way of keeping the delts out of it.

The use their lower body to drive UP.

Bodybuilders often tear their shoulders up doing bench press because too much burden is placed upon the delts. You even see this in something as simple as a push-up (though you can usually get away with when you're just lifting your body mass off the ground).

 

[sstcane]

Is anyone on the board a S&C coach?

I am a strength coach that trains guys for the combine as well as several NFL players.

Here are a couple of guys I worked with this year. A DE that's 6'6 272lbs that had a 35" vert, 10'9 broad jump and 1.53s 10yd split. He added 3" on his vert and 11" on his broad jump in 6 weeks (lost 1 week because he was at the senior bowl)

A 305lb OL had a 32" vertical and a 9'6 broad jump with a 1.68 10yf split. He added 3" on his vert and 9" on his broad jump in the same amount of time.

My issue with U-Tough is the emphasis on conditioning. I use block periodization which makes each block very specific to what you want to accomplish. If you are trying to increase lean muscle, improve strength and power and improve their conditioning you don't improve each area very much. There is an inverse relationship between VO2 max and vertical jump, meaning the more time spent on conditioning the less explosive you will be.

I would be focusing on increasing lean muscle first, then strength and power. Conditioning would be the focus in the summer before camp.

 

[mirvin88]

Is anyone on the board a S&C coach?

I am a strength coach that trains guys for the combine as well as several NFL players.

Here are a couple of guys I worked with this year. A DE that's 6'6 272lbs that had a 35" vert, 10'9 broad jump and 1.53s 10yd split. He added 3" on his vert and 11" on his broad jump in 6 weeks (lost 1 week because he was at the senior bowl)

A 305lb OL had a 32" vertical and a 9'6 broad jump with a 1.68 10yf split. He added 3" on his vert and 9" on his broad jump in the same amount of time.

My issue with U-Tough is the emphasis on conditioning. I use block periodization which makes each block very specific to what you want to accomplish. If you are trying to increase lean muscle, improve strength and power and improve their conditioning you don't improve each area very much. There is an inverse relationship between VO2 max and vertical jump, meaning the more time spent on conditioning the less explosive you will be.

I would be focusing on increasing lean muscle first, then strength and power. Conditioning would be the focus in the summer before camp.

This settles it. Fire Swasey banner next season