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RiDLer80
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No explosiveness. Michael Sam got ****ted on at the combine for his weak vertical.
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McCord is that dude...he's gonna kill some unfortunate QB.
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Based on what? One hit?
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C'mon AU. I'll afford you the courtesy of assuming you know better.
But it's a message board so, WTH, I'll also play along...
No, not based on one hit. It's based on multiple factors, all of which inform my overall opinion of McCord and his abilities, which includes the opinion that he'll probably maim an opposing QB before he leaves UM. First, since you mentioned it, sure, I'll start here:
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-the position he plays, and the apparent playing time he'll receive at that position (i.e. opportunities)
-my observations of his explosiveness and athleticism during games, including his propensity for big plays
-general flashes he's shown through the first two years of his college career, including other times he's broken free to the QB (e.g. sack/fumble on Driskel)
-these Utough testing numbers (relative to others and relative to his previous testing)
-he's got that DOG in him
-and zero sunshine:
JMHO, of course.
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Nope. Just MMQBs.
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Yes, I am aware of the sunshine issues that apparent with him and yes, thank you for emphasizing my point about his big play against GT. This is what I see in McCord - a guy who is underweight at his position and can occasionally get a rush on. He's not nearly as effective as people on this board make him out to be. Quite often I saw him get easily stymied once he engaged with the tackle on a pass rush. Plus, he's not terribly fast.
As for the Ufluff testing numbers, who cares? Does it help Dwayne Toillett get on the field? will it help Jermain Grace get on the field? Probably not.
All that said, 3rd years for a DL are usually an inflection point so I am hoping to see more productivity for him.
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Mccord doesn't have many pass-rushing moves either...
Wow, those numbers by Mayes do not impress me one bit. We could probably pick out 3/4ths of this forum and get them to put up those numbers or better. 225 pound bench, 345 pound squat and a 213 pound clean to go along with a 32 inch vertical does not impress me one bit.
Actually as a whole on this team the low vertical numbers is a problem in my eyes it really shows our lack of explosiveness.
Actually as a whole on this team the low vertical numbers is a problem in my eyes it really shows our lack of explosiveness.
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So take it up with Miami Northwestern S&C coach then.
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Mayes is an EE. He should be in hs still.
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How has his other gems panned out so far?
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Funny thing is he's been listed at 240 for the last two years.
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Makes no sense. Power Clean #s, vertical #s, and deadlift mean more to me than anything else (functional strength).
Powerlifters vs bodybuilders
Powerlifters move weight around fast, do less reps, take more time between sets, and have numerous different stances/hand positions/movements depending on the lift and which muscle group they intend to use.
E.g. of this is the squat. A powerlifter will break at the hips & "sit back in the hole" forcing him to drive out with his hips firing... whereas a bodybuilder will break at the knees and put more emphasis on his quad development. Powerlifters put more emphasis on their posterior chains than body builders do (or strength coaches who don't know what they're doing).
So when you see our players weight go up they are definitely adding muscle but it's not functional and in most cases it's not in the right muscle groups (notice many of our players have HUGE upper bodies and tiny lower bodies. These guys should have massive glutes).
Another lift I wish we saw #s for is deadlifts.
The most important lifts for a powerlifter are Squats, Deads, Cleans, Bench. And again... how they are taught is the key.
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Clean numbers are going to vary program to program based on what is accepted as a good lift. It's such a technical lift that i really wouldn't look into those numbers a whole lot.
This testing is done just because it's prior to spring ball. The kids can work but formal workouts typically start when they return from winter break so most schools I've been at come back mid to late january. They've gotten maybe a 6-8 week block of work in. It's nothing to fret over
This testing is done just because it's prior to spring ball. The kids can work but formal workouts typically start when they return from winter break so most schools I've been at come back mid to late january. They've gotten maybe a 6-8 week block of work in. It's nothing to fret over
Don't undersell the quads. The quads are critically important for knee stability, acceleration and deceleration. You'll also see a lot of powerlifters using a high bar squat which is quad dominant and a lot of those use weightlifting shoes which make the lift even more quad dominant. Powerlifters also don't utilize the clean. That's weightlifting.
I'm with you, though, in some sense. The vert number is the one I'd put the most stock into out of all of these.
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