LOLOL.
What the other posters said. Al took over an experienced crew in a weak ACC and reeled of a 6-6 mark and then 7-6? Muschump went 11-2 against the best the SEC has to offer with DRISKEL. UF is tough and physical, nobody has said that about UM in a loooooong time. I believe coaching is reflected in the fundamentals. You can't field a D ranked 118 and claim and a O with a middling rushing attack and claim that staff is better than a crew that went 11-2 in the SEC.
You can't
You want to cling to their cumulative records, be my guest. But, Muschump inherited a disaster and engineered a near miracle last year while Al fielded the worst D ever assembled at UM and reeled off a 7-5 season while losing to powerhouses like Va., again.
I like Al and think he'll be fine, but at this juncture, there is no way one can objectively conclude that UM has a better staff.
Again, going off a one year sample size doesn't favor you in this argument.
And LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL @ Wuzchamp inheriting a disaster.. He inherited a program built by a TOP 5 HC in the United Statez of America.. Golden inherited a program built by a career LB coach.
why do you keep repeating this nonsense? the same top 5 coach lost 5 games with that roster before departing and then left 65 scholarship players and 1 returning player at the qb position. the backup qb murphy was slow played by temple. people thought so highly of the talent we didn't have a single preseason all-sec team selection on offense, yes not even on the 3rd string. i believe we had 2 players in totality that made any preseason all-sec teams and don't recall any making an all-sec team after his first year. the roster was so 'stacked' we played more freshman than any team in the country his first year. if that's not a disaster i don't know what is.
Yeah, go try to convince someone else that Demps, Rainey, Thompson, Dubose, Reed, Burton were a bunch of talentless bums.
Further compare the players from the 2009 and #1 ranked 2010 class that Muschamp inherited to what Golden got from those respective years and then come talk to me about inheriting a disaster.
Lastly for anyone buying this gators BS. read this preview from CFN
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1077352.html
Will Muschamp’s grace period ends ... wait for it … wait for it …
Now.
There’s no excuse for this to not be another wildly successful era of Florida football, at least in theory. Muschamp is as groomed and as prepared as any assistant can possibly be – he was probably ready for this gig five years ago – and he doesn’t have to go it alone. Charlie Weis as an offensive coordinator, even at a reported $2.625 million over the next three seasons, is a ridiculous steal, and defensive coordinator Dan Quinn is a great hire considering the Gator front four, with the right teaching, is more talented than the Seattle Seahawk line he spent the last year coaching.
The coaches are in place, the infrastructure of Florida athletics is peerless, and the cupboard is fully stocked with one of the five best talent bases in the country, if not No. 1. Everything is set up perfectly for a good coach to step in, turn the key, and win very, very big right away, meaning there’s more pressure on Muschamp than just about any other recent new coach has had to deal with.
Les Miles stepped in for Nick Saban at LSU and had to keep the national title-caliber program rolling, but that’s about it when it comes to recent seamless transfers of power at big-time schools. Lane Kiffin walked into a train wreck at USC; Derek Dooley will have streets named after him at Tennessee because he’s not Kiffin; Bo Pelini was an instant hit at Nebraska because he wasn’t Bill Callahan; Brady Hoke has already succeeded at Michigan by not being Rich Rodriguez; Al Golden is taking over the Miami job from an ineffective Randy Shannon; Brian Kelly had the luxury of following Weis at Notre Dame; Jimbo Fisher was seen as an energy boost for a stale Florida State; Nick Saban was seen as the savior from the moment he blew off the Miami Dolphins for the Alabama job; and woe to whatever poor soul will eventually dive into the hot mess in Columbus.
By comparison, Muschamp has everything set out for him on a silver platter, and that includes the climate. Urban Meyer might be a legend, but he also overstayed his welcome, leaving the program in desperate need of some fresh air. Fortunately for Muschamp, the 2010 recruiting class didn’t quite see it that way, bought into the line of bullmuffins that Meyer was slinging about how he’d be the head man at Florida for several seasons, and now there are plenty of fun toys to play around with.
Rebuilding needed to be done last year no matter what, and while going 8-5 is jump-off-a-bridge time in Gainesville, if you can find one there, it really wasn’t a total disaster considering 1) it was the first year after Tim Tebow, 2) NOTHING worked on offense, and 3) the puck was on the team’s stick against South Carolina with a chance to win the East title. This year, the right coaching staff is in place to handle a pro-style quarterback in John Brantley on offense and a slew of potential superstars on defense.
Weis has the quarterbacks to tutor and has speedsters in running backs Jeff Demps and Chris Rainey to utilize. If the line can be merely adequate, the attack can take an express boat off the land of misfit toys and should be devastating after Meyer’s offense was totally dysfunctional with the parts he had to work with. It might take a little time, and this offseason wasn’t exactly inspiring, but Weis knows how to get an offense moving when he’s not a head coach.
The defense was good last year and should be phenomenal this season if and when everyone matures at the same time, led by a line that might the best Muschamp has ever had to work with. There’s more star-power on the way from the incoming recruiting class for an already ultra-athletic secondary, and the linebacking corps should have a strong rotation to work around rock-solid starters Jelani Jenkins and Jonathan Bostic.
Muschamp’s job is to take what he’s been given and let the machine run, but he has already taken a page out of the Meyer paranoia playbook by closing off practices. That could either mean he’s taking care of business early on after a disappointing season, or it’s the first sign of pressure in a win-or-fail job. Either way, there’s no room for losing considering there’s no rebuilding to be done; a few adjustments need to be made.
Muschamp’s measuring stick will be national titles, with an s. He has the program, he has the support, he has the talent, and he has the right SEC division to be in. "
are you serious with this post? you can't stay consistent at all. so now late round picks are barometers of talent? this from the same guy arguing late rounders left by shannon for golden wasn't 'miami talent'? and what is that article supposed to prove exactly? those same people predicted miami to win 10 games and compete for the acc golden's first season based on what shannon left him, so using your logic miami was stacked with talent right? did this guy really pull some article from a preseason mag as proof uf was supposedly talented? so the lack of production, nfl picks, and all conference members and 65 scholarship players isn't proof they weren't talented but a puff piece from some writer is? lol this has to be a joke.
let's break it down. rainey and demps were 170 lb. scat backs recruited for the spread while muschamp runs an i-form downhill game. thompson went undrafted (and led uf in drops his last 3 years), rainey went undrafted, reed was a 5th rounder and burton doesn't even have a position on the team. furthermore rainey missed 4 games in muschamp's rookie season for the time to die text scandal and demps missed multiple games as well.
now about recruiting classes. how dumb do you have to be to think recruiting rankings determine talent? again based on your logic golden inherited a team of seniors who were the #1 coming out...so miami was stacked with talent right? recruiting rankings mean a lot apparently. but i'll break it down for you. of the so-called #1 ranked class for uf in 10', 3 signees (coxson, dowling, and haden) all ranked 4-stars never even made it to campus. 7 more transferred (dunkley, christian, clark, mcfarland, shaw, trail, and agjabe), 3 before muschamp was even hired, all of those again ranked 4-stars, so that's 10 of 27 signees gone right there. remove those 10 from the class and what would it have been ranked? the remaining players:
neiron ball- backup linebacker, has less than 5 career starts
mack brown- backup running back and behind a true sophomore and true freshman currently, has less than 400 yards rushing in his CAREER and he's a redshirt junior
trey burton- nothing more than a wildcat qb
easley- very good starter
elam- stud
floyd- stud
chaz green- backup lineman and was passed over by a true freshman last year
darrin kitchens- backup linebacker
tyler murphy- backup qb and only other offer was temple, has been 3rd string his entire career
leon orr- backup
patton- backup, soon to be senior with less than 300 yards receiving in his CAREER
quinton dunbar- starter, mediocre. he lead our core with less than 400 yards receiving last year, hardly spectacular
powell-l#1 ranked player in the class, hasn't done much due to injury (missed all of last year and some of his sophomore year)
cody riggs- 3rd string corner
michael taylor- backup
jaylen watkins- nickel corner
so in a class of 27, 3 didn't make it on campus, 7 transferred, and of the remaining 17 only 5 starters in the group with elam, floyd, and easley being the only above average starter. this was the backbone of the team with no depth behind them, again, we had 65 players on scholarship...yep, that's a whole lot of talent
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