TVD Staying at UM Mega-Thread (F off Nick and the local Miami media dreck)

[Dwinstitles]

As much as I love TVD as a player he doesn't deserve more NIL money and if he wants to go...then so be it. I'll suffer through this year (AGAIN) but this ain't a great look for him going forward if this is the case

Why isn't it a good look? He would be throwing to pro bowl TEs and behind a pro bowl OL? It will make his stock rise and everyone will forget that he left. I agree let his *** walk though it is what it is. This is cfb just stack everywhere else and eventually he will be an after thought.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

FInally, Barry JacksOff gets religion and admits that the Miami Collective was announced 9 days ago...

 

[JayCane20]

Completely correct.

I know there was some fallout a few years ago when the IRS questioned some of the political 501s that were being created, but you're right, I've never seen the blowback on a "charitable" non-profit a year or two into its existence.

Gonna be...interesting...for sure...

Getting pulled into an engagement with a regional firm to do some work in an assessment on the Spyre Sports non-profit for UT. Probably going to turn into a consulting engagement if we find stuff for them to work through. It's run by significant businessmen so it should be relatively solid.

I'm very intrigued. Kicking that off in mid-June or early July.

I've been skeptical of how the **** these get by as a 501 - albeit I don't have much exposure with them or much more than a basic understanding of it. Can't imagine they skate by much longer without the IRS getting their hands in it.

 

[theibisrules]

Stand firm Ruiz...stand firm

 

[rayray]

A cane is someone who plays hard, not actively try to give up on your teammates, have their receivers numbers in their phone. You know the little sh*t… sh*t that TVD doesn’t do

you guys are so ridiculous. he went out and played vs FSU w/ his arm dangling from his body for a coaching staff that had already screwed up his career and was completely ill prepared to compete in the biggest game of the season. he doesn't owe Miami anything. John Ruiz should be giving the guy hazard pay after what this coaching staff put him through last season.

to say the dude has poured more of his body into the program than anyone on a message board goes without saying, but I'm gonna say it anyway just for the record. brock, you would die if you tried to put in even a week of work at the level of a D1 college football player. you can spare us the lectures about being a "real" Cane.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

look, you can trash TVD all you want, and you may be right. I think ultimately TVD sticks around because if Bama is going this route I think they can do better. Notre Dame probably did do better. so we might agree on his talent.

but my point isn't about TVD. *any* quarterback with better options would look at the absolute ****show that was last season and want to run for the hills. Jaden Rashada and Jake Garcia got out as quickly as they could. the idea that TVD wouldn't want to be looking around after the situation we put him in last year is crazy. of course he is looking around. anyone here would be looking around. that was one of the worst offenses I've ever seen in my life, and TVD's part in that is not really relevant to the discussion honestly.

Oh, bull ****. Then you transfer out before Spring classes start which is what Garcia did. Rashada was a money ***** who got burned. He has some local bike shop NIL deal...lol. Yes, I am being factitious. It would be one thing if Van Dyke was beaten out in the spring, but he is clearly QB1. As stated, this has been going on since December in some form or fashion with this kid.

 

[Fluffhead]

Pray tell, Michelle, what athlete commercials you see for most Bama, Georgia, USC, A&M, etc. players that are getting NIL deals.

 

[RVACane]

Where I come from, it means you’re family.

@Cryptical Envelopment

 

[Tony4Canes]

Pray tell, Michelle, what athlete commercials you see for most Bama, Georgia, USC, A&M, etc. players that are getting NIL deals.

Why would she?? Does she live in SoFla??

Unfortunately I see a lot here in OH for OSU.

 

[joseermonfils]

Just wake me up when this **** is over

 

[rayray]

In a heartbeat I would show TVD the door. I have always been a big fan of him but this is ridiculous. UM cannot and should not give into his demands. The chemistry on the entire team will change and players will only be looking for $$$$$. I would have a long talk and tell him he has 24 hours to remain loyal to his team and the University or he is off the team. This kid is all about himself and ***** HIM!

if you record a video of yourself reading this post aloud while looking into a mirror and post it in this thread I'll pay you $25

 

[hoops156]

But did he dominate like Joaquin said?

lol the same joaquin that blasted the team routinely. isnt that uncane of him? no unwavering support?

 

[hoops156]

Why would she?? Does she live in SoFla??

Unfortunately I see a lot here in OH for OSU.

lifewallet does a lot more IG adds which is honestly better. the miami collective is the same **** as all the other collectives. its pay for play. theyre not abusiness just a place where people donate so they can pay for players. the colelctives were gonna be the only sustainable model for all of this. businesses dont care and cant make real money off a random athlete at a school. they can make money off of a star athlete (Cavinder twins, Livvy Dunne, Bryce Young, etc.)

 

[doohcane]

I might meat TVD at Titanic, and watch him hurt his shoulder reaching for the beer I bought him....

You’d have a better chance to see him at shadow wagyu on le jeune

 

[NOLACane21]

Ricks? Home of the Rickettes.

Cloud Nine? A trailer where they serve(d) hotdogs in wonder bread and used coffee filters for plates?
Sharky’s?

 

[canadianhurricane]

The timing of all this is really disappointing. To wait until after spring, hurts us as a program. Drew is such a snake I'm surprised he's even allowed around greentree

Let him go and start reaching out to one of those Bama QBs and Maalik Murphy.

 

[JustAFanHTX]

Kam kitchens might lock TVD in room and box him

…..what if he loses?

 

[BeachCanes]

Do you think TVD could do the same thing in our current offense if he gets his stuff together?

I do man. He fits some balls in tight windows that scream NFL. Last year’s offense wouldn’t help any QB.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Getting pulled into an engagement with a regional firm to do some work in an assessment on the Spyre Sports non-profit for UT. Probably going to turn into a consulting engagement if we find stuff for them to work through. It's run by significant businessmen so it should be relatively solid.

I'm very intrigued. Kicking that off in mid-June or early July.

I've been skeptical of how the **** these get by as a 501 - albeit I don't have much exposure with them or much more than a basic understanding of it. Can't imagine they skate by much longer without the IRS getting their hands in it.

Yeah, I'm truly fascinated by this stuff. You haven't had many times over the past 100 years that something ENTIRELY NEW comes into the tax laws.

On one hand, the IRS has traditionally given a wide berth to charitable organizations, so as to respect various religions and charitable pursuits.

But on the other hand, we probably need some bright-line guidance on what "does qualify" and what "does not qualify" for charitable deductions. As @wspcane pointed out, you apply for 501c status and have to wait 9 months for a determination, but in the meantime, most organizations start operating as if they WILL be approved.

And then you layer on top of that...the concept that these sports-related Collectives are a brand-new legal/accounting creation...and I really don't know what the answer will be.

To give an example...if I started a "not-for-profit" to raise money for YOU...that's not really what the 501c organizations were intended to do. You can be a great guy, and deserving of the fund-raising...but that doesn't mean that contributions were made with a true donative and charitable intent...

To say it a different way...I realize what we WANT and ENVISION these Collectives to be...to help out these athletes...but the eventual question would be, why don't we all set up "Collectives" to give people charitable contributions if they contribute to, say, our kid's college fund? Or if that's a problem under the existing rules, maybe I set up a Collective to raise money for YOUR kid's college fund, and you set up one to raise money for MY kid's college fund.

I don't know, this is going to go in a very weird direction if the IRS doesn't give some solid guidance, and soon.

 

[doohcane]

People hear and see Ruiz and think he’s the only one helping. Which he’s not. Not sure how many times I can say this.

Let’s just say would be in best interest of canes fans if the sports gambling becomes legal in Fla.