2023 Transfer OVs this weekend - 1/6-1/8

[wnycanesfan]

The coaching staff need to instill that. These are their guys. If we are going to bring an older guy in, they need to be difference makers/starters to justify taking valuable snaps away from the pups IMO

Partially but the coaches are only allowed around the players for a limited amount of time. That is why ultimately you need players to take a leadership role and help instill what you want in terms of things like putting in the extra work. If you go back to the 2000/2001 teams the players routinely got together by themselves to work on things. That does not seem to have been happening lately and is likely something Mario is trying to get back.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

Shot in the dark it sounded like.

There's four other big conferences. Statistically you could eliminate the PAC as we don't get many kids from that area nor do ours go there. Big was the highest probability of the rest as most guys if they leave the SEC, it's all over. Big players are familiar with Florida as they vacation down here growing up. 12, same thing as the PAC to a lesser degree.

In the transfer portal era the stats actually say the opposite.

2019 (8 transfers) - 3 PAC, 1 B1G, 1 SEC, 1 ACC, 1 AAC, 1 FCS (Pioneer)
2020 (5 transfers) - 3 AAC, 1 SEC, 1 CUSA
2021 (4 transfers) - 2 XII, 1 SEC, 1 Mountain West
2022 (11 transfers) - 5 PAC, 2 XII, 1 ACC, 1 SEC, 1 B1G, 1 CUSA
2023 (4 transfers and counting) - 1 PAC, 1 SEC, 1 Sun Belt, 1 AAC

That's 32 total transfers. 9 PAC, 5 SEC, 4 XII, 2 B1G, 2 ACC, 9 G5, 1 FCS. Since the transfer portal's inception (and only looking at P5 conferences) we're most likely to get a kid from the PAC, then the SEC, then XII, and finally the ACC and B1G.

Probably still a shot in the dark, but one that bucks the recent trend for UM transfers.

 

[canes614]

dp jr is better than couch

I personally see both as depth pieces at best...

 

[bacane]

dp jr is better than couch

Not thrilled with either. Thought Porter would upgrade CB play and push for starting job, but ended up pretty underwhelming.

 

[Allabouttheu95]

I personally see both as depth pieces at best...

Agreed. Porter has much higher ceiling though. Couch is a bottom half of 2 deep nickel guy. Seems to have lost all confidence in himself or his freshman year was just sheer luck

I’ve watched OC’s for 2 straight years go directly at couch game after game. Something is showing on the film

 

[Caned Lyfe]

Anyone know if the rumors of Nykoles Harbor taking a visit are true?

 

[canesbrah]

Not thrilled with either. Thought Porter would upgrade CB play and push for starting job, but ended up pretty underwhelming.

This. Dude didn’t make any plays

 

[grover]

dp jr is better than couch

Not disagreeing with you. But I didn't see it in the games. Felt like he was abused similar to Couch was in 2021, while Couch got tougher. As others have noted, neither should start for Miami.

 

[SayWhat]

In the transfer portal era the stats actually say the opposite.

2019 (8 transfers) - 3 PAC, 1 B1G, 1 SEC, 1 ACC, 1 AAC, 1 FCS (Pioneer)
2020 (5 transfers) - 3 AAC, 1 SEC, 1 CUSA
2021 (4 transfers) - 2 XII, 1 SEC, 1 Mountain West
2022 (11 transfers) - 5 PAC, 2 XII, 1 ACC, 1 SEC, 1 B1G, 1 CUSA
2023 (4 transfers and counting) - 1 PAC, 1 SEC, 1 Sun Belt, 1 AAC

That's 32 total transfers. 9 PAC, 5 SEC, 4 XII, 2 B1G, 2 ACC, 9 G5, 1 FCS. Since the transfer portal's inception (and only looking at P5 conferences) we're most likely to get a kid from the PAC, then the SEC, then XII, and finally the ACC and B1G.

Probably still a shot in the dark, but one that bucks the recent trend for UM transfers.

Nice work, I wouldn't have guessed that at all obviously.

That's a lot from last year though in the PAC. Obviously we still get some, but maybe a familiarity with Mario bumped it that year plus the couple that followed him.

I wonder if it's due to similarities. Miami has more in common with a lot of West Coast cities than Midwest, etc.

 

[SayWhat]

Anyone know if the rumors of Nykoles Harbor taking a visit are true?

He mentioned it as a possibility, but nothing more.

 

[TemplarCane]

Nice work, I wouldn't have guessed that at all obviously.

That's a lot from last year though in the PAC. Obviously we still get some, but maybe a familiarity with Mario bumped it that year plus the couple that followed him.

I wonder if it's due to similarities. Miami has more in common with a lot of West Coast cities than Midwest, etc.

I wonder if so few from the SEC indicates preference by SEC players in conference.

An interesting analysis would be transfers between conferences opposed to transfers within the same conference.

 

[CANEMC]

I'll take an Iowa defensive player any day of the week...That defense EVERY **** YEAR is one of the few programs in America that just love to play defense. They are offended when the other team scores.

We need their DC. Broyles paper weight for him sounds fair.

 

[SayWhat]

I wonder if so few from the SEC indicates preference by SEC players in conference.

An interesting analysis would be transfers between conferences opposed to transfers within the same conference.

Okay, your idea. Get to it!

It would be interesting to see!

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

Nice work, I wouldn't have guessed that at all obviously.

That's a lot from last year though in the PAC. Obviously we still get some, but maybe a familiarity with Mario bumped it that year plus the couple that followed him.

I wonder if it's due to similarities. Miami has more in common with a lot of West Coast cities than Midwest, etc.

Definitely some Mario impact, though even last year we had USC and UCLA kids, which could have something to do with the "more in common" w/ other schools in major cities vibe.

I wonder if so few from the SEC indicates preference by SEC players in conference.

An interesting analysis would be transfers between conferences opposed to transfers within the same conference.

That would be interesting to see. I haven't looked at it, but I'd guess most of our players that transfer out end up G5 or FCS. I did think it was interesting that many of our incoming transfers came from the G5 ranks (which makes sense if they've outplayed their competition and are looking for a step up to help their draft profile).

 

[SayWhat]

Yup, find some guys that played well at that level, almost like JUCO, etc. Some guys do well and some don't. The Butler kid a few years ago comes to mind as didn't and a Young as one who did.

 

[Hurricane23]

Would rather play the young guys in the secondary instead of focusing on bringing in a 6th year corner. DL I can understand because it’s a man’s position, but we need to develop the youth talent at CB. We aren’t winning anything next year anyway

It gives the younger guys time to develop

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

On his podcast this morning Alex Donno gave some info to strongly suggest Roberts is going to be a Cane.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

On his podcast this morning Alex Donno gave some info to strongly suggest Roberts is going to be a Cane.

The Dread Pirate Roberts?

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

The Dread Pirate Roberts?

As you wish.

 

[cway313]

Any good players coming with them this weekend?