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Time to Dial Back the Luke Nickel Love?

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I get it. This is a hater take. But are we finally ready to admit that we all anointed Luke Nickel as the savior way too soon?

Sure, it is still super early in his first Spring Camp and sure, he is super young and there is plenty of time for him to improve. But most of this fanbase was ready to call him the definite backup and QB of the future before he even stepped foot on campus. Now that he has been on campus, reading between the lines, there has been a lot of "well let's see him with better receivers" and "I think he still needs to adjust to the speed" and "its still early".

Through The Smoke went as far as to say that they don't think Miami's future starter is on the roster currently.

Of course I want to see him succeed and become an All-American and call me a hater if you want, but while we are all sitting here pumping Dereon Coleman's tires, I think it is worth trying to have a little perspective about our expectations. We all moaned about how Nickel deserved a fourth star and it sure sounds like after seeing him in practice that he was probably ranked correctly.

Coleman is a completely different player so perhaps I am comparing apples to oranges, but for me, this only cements that we should be on the Portal QB train every season so long as the good options are available.
 

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Agree with your last statement. I'm in the camp of fill out the roster with elite HS recruiting. Plug holes/get depth through the portal. And go swinging for a top, experienced QB every year. The icing on top would be to get one who has more than 1 year of eligibility.
 
MikeyCanez said:
I get it. This is a hater take. But are we finally ready to admit that we all anointed Luke Nickel as the savior way too soon?

Sure, it is still super early in his first Spring Camp and sure, he is super young and there is plenty of time for him to improve. But most of this fanbase was ready to call him the definite backup and QB of the future before he even stepped foot on campus. Now that he has been on campus, reading between the lines, there has been a lot of "well let's see him with better receivers" and "I think he still needs to adjust to the speed" and "its still early".

Through The Smoke went as far as to say that they don't think Miami's future starter is on the roster currently.

Of course I want to see him succeed and become an All-American and call me a hater if you want, but while we are all sitting here pumping Dereon Coleman's tires, I think it is worth trying to have a little perspective about our expectations. We all moaned about how Nickel deserved a fourth star and it sure sounds like after seeing him in practice that he was probably ranked correctly.

Coleman is a completely different player so perhaps I am comparing apples to oranges, but for me, this only cements that we should be on the Portal QB train every season so long as the good options are available.
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He's getting reps with the 3rd and 4th string players and doing a pretty decent job at it. Not sure what you want from a freshman in spring practice but it sounds like you have an agenda.
 
There is not one single data point, neither positively or negatively, that allows you to draw a hint of a conclusion about Nickel's future here. He should still be in High School.

When the lights come on and the bullets are live, how does he perform? I don't care one bit about practice reports until I get the answer to that question. Would it be better if the reports were "Holy **** this kid is a 6 foot Peyton Manning!" ?? Sure. But people were beating off mercilessly to Kyle Wright in practices. And the games started, and he crumbled. What is between your ears is just about as important as what is attached to your shoulder as a college QB.

Nickel will be fine. Or he won't. But saying he won't be a starter here after 1 practice in pads is dumb as ****, even for this fanbase/media.

And full disclosure if people think this is a slurper post, I'd say the exact same thing if the reports were that he might win the Heisman this year. Pump ALL the brakes. Let's see him make some presnap reads on 3rd and 7 in front of 65,000 people before we crown or dump him.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
There is not one single data point, neither positively or negatively, that allows you to draw a hint of a conclusion about Nickel's future here. He should still be in High School.

When the lights come on and the bullets are live, how does he perform? I don't care one bit about practice reports until I get the answer to that question. Would it be better if the reports were "Holy **** this kid is a 6 foot Peyton Manning!" ?? Sure. But people were beating off mercilessly to Kyle Wright in practices. And the games started, and he crumbled. What is between your ears is just about as important as what is attached to your shoulder as a college QB.

Nickel will be fine. Or he won't. But saying he won't be a starter here after 1 practice in pads is dumb as ****, even for this fanbase/media.
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MikeyCanez said:
I get it. This is a hater take. But are we finally ready to admit that we all anointed Luke Nickel as the savior way too soon?

Sure, it is still super early in his first Spring Camp and sure, he is super young and there is plenty of time for him to improve. But most of this fanbase was ready to call him the definite backup and QB of the future before he even stepped foot on campus. Now that he has been on campus, reading between the lines, there has been a lot of "well let's see him with better receivers" and "I think he still needs to adjust to the speed" and "its still early".

Through The Smoke went as far as to say that they don't think Miami's future starter is on the roster currently.

Of course I want to see him succeed and become an All-American and call me a hater if you want, but while we are all sitting here pumping Dereon Coleman's tires, I think it is worth trying to have a little perspective about our expectations. We all moaned about how Nickel deserved a fourth star and it sure sounds like after seeing him in practice that he was probably ranked correctly.

Coleman is a completely different player so perhaps I am comparing apples to oranges, but for me, this only cements that we should be on the Portal QB train every season so long as the good options are available.
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Good lord, what a ridiculous and truly stupid post.

First, nobody anointed him the savior. Before we got Beck and with what we had on the roster, people felt that he was better than Emory and Judd. Which, of course, is not high praise. So stop it with this "savior" crap.

He's still a high school kid, at least on a normal calendar basis. If Emory and/or Judd leave, he will absolutely be the backup. QB of the future is an unknown, but you have to prepare for it.

Adjusting to the speed of the next level is normal. He has had exactly one practice in pads.

None of that is an excuse or a rationalization. But to make such idiotic predictions and projections after 8 practices, only 1 in pads, is just insane.
 
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OP is talking about David Lake's opinion from the most recent podcast on 247. He said he believes it will take "a couple of years" for Nickel to be ready.

He took a lot of heat for that on the board, btw.

"Emory is the clear back up" according to him. He does say that none of them have been real standouts or been consistent
 
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If there is a more proven beast qb in the portal we have show we will go after them. We are the qb school now
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I know Dawson seems to really like Judd and that’s fine

I’d just like to see a scenario where we have Beck, portal, Luke

Then next year Portal, Luke, Coleman and if somehow Luke or Coleman truly are elite then maybe scrap the portal option
 
MikeyCanez said:
I get it. This is a hater take. But are we finally ready to admit that we all anointed Luke Nickel as the savior way too soon?

Sure, it is still super early in his first Spring Camp and sure, he is super young and there is plenty of time for him to improve. But most of this fanbase was ready to call him the definite backup and QB of the future before he even stepped foot on campus. Now that he has been on campus, reading between the lines, there has been a lot of "well let's see him with better receivers" and "I think he still needs to adjust to the speed" and "its still early".

Through The Smoke went as far as to say that they don't think Miami's future starter is on the roster currently.

Of course I want to see him succeed and become an All-American and call me a hater if you want, but while we are all sitting here pumping Dereon Coleman's tires, I think it is worth trying to have a little perspective about our expectations. We all moaned about how Nickel deserved a fourth star and it sure sounds like after seeing him in practice that he was probably ranked correctly.

Coleman is a completely different player so perhaps I am comparing apples to oranges, but for me, this only cements that we should be on the Portal QB train every season so long as the good options are available.
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Anyone who thought that highly about Luke doesn't know much about D1 college football to begin with.

We have a (perceived) QB1, and we have competition at QB2, cant really ask for more. Especially right now.
 
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Hoyacane1620 said:
OP is talking about David Lake's opinion from the most recent podcast on 247. He said he believes it will take "a couple of years" for Nickel to be ready.

He took a lot of heat for that on the board, btw.

"Emory is the clear back up" according to him. He does say that none of them have been real standouts or been consistent
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I don't know if Lake will be right or not but I'll give him credit for not wearing orange and green glasses like 99% of people hosting podcasts.
 
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