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Time for Robby Washington to step up at CB

Robby is a plus athlete for sure.

But to think a kid who never played corner can just transition mid season and be a difference maker isn’t really fair to him. It takes time to understand responsibilities and become good in coverage and tackling. If he plays meaningful snaps at Cb this year and is successful he will be beating the odds.
 
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Brooklyndee said:
If you trust Porter than I'm sorry but I can't trust you... Dudes gotten very complacent recently. I'm good on him.
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Glad I’m not the only one that has been saying this. He’s playing as if he has disinterest in the nickel position. Which is crazy because if he thinks the NFL would consider him for outside corner, he might as well hang up the cleats now.

The way he consistently gives ground on routes from the slot infuriates me. His current play style lacks urgency, making him yet another liability on the backend of this defense (pause).

Problem is that if we move Meesh to nickel, you lose your brain to set the coverage calls for the defense. Harris can’t figure out what angle to take for tackles, and Quan is a true Freshman which would make it a learning curve for him when things are moving fast. This team doesn’t have the luxury to waste this year for him to learn and take the lumps. Only suggestion I would have would be to simplify the calls as much you can and practice giving him the communication to be in his ear to help him prior to the 15 second cutoff.
 
grover said:
Looked like they moved pieces around when he went down. Brought in ZP as the deep safety, kept Harris as strong safety (though Quan also stuffed that run coming downhill beautifully), moved Powell to Nickel and Porter to outside. Did I track that right? How do people feel about that?

I want to see more Robby less Dion’s personally. Also, OJF is a baller. Only one who consistently tracks the ball and he’s a true freshman.
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This seems to be the most logical line up, but the way the staff rotates CB's someone has to step up and take those 3rd CB reps. Miami has played at minimum 3 corners in every game this season, with the 3rd CB getting between 20-30 snaps a game.

Moving Powell to Nickel (his natural position) will allow DP to go back outside (his natural position) with OJ and Hill making up the other 2 CB's getting snaps.

CB Snap Count per game (excluding Duke)

Florida Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 48
JR. Jadais Richard 38
JR. D'Yoni Hill 24
SO. Damari Brown 14
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 29

FAMU Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 26
RJR. Myles Mooyoung - 9 snaps
JR. Jadais Richard 22
JR. D'Yoni Hill 34
RFR. Robby Washington - 6 snap
RFR. Robert Stafford - 12 snaps
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 38

USF Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 67
RJR. Myles Mooyoung - 6 snaps
JR. Jadais Richard 61
JR. D'Yoni Hill 55
RFR. Robby Washington - 6 snap
RFR. Robert Stafford - 6 snaps
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 45

VT Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 62
JR. Jadais Richard 31
JR. D'Yoni Hill 31
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 35

Cal Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 35
JR. Jadais Richard 68
JR. D'Yoni Hill 39
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 40

Louisville Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 66
JR. Jadais Richard 74
JR. D'Yoni Hill 25
RFR. Robby Washington - 1 snap
RFR. Robert Stafford - 1 snaps
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 49

FSU Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 50
JR. Jadais Richard 24
JR. D'Yoni Hill 39
RFR. Robby Washington 5
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 55
 
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Hstokes1447 said:
This seems to be the most logical line up, but the way the staff rotates CB's someone has to step up and take those 3rd CB reps. Miami has played at 3 corners in every game this season, with the 3rd CB getting between 20-30 snaps a game.

Moving Powell to Nickel (his natural position) will allow DP to go back outside (his natural position) with OJ and Hill making up the other 2 CB's getting snaps.

CB Snap Count per game (excluding Duke)

Florida Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 48
JR. Jadais Richard 38
JR. D'Yoni Hill 24
SO. Damari Brown 14
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 29

FAMU Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 26
RJR. Myles Mooyoung - 9 snaps
JR. Jadais Richard 22
JR. D'Yoni Hill 34
RFR. Robby Washington - 6 snap
RFR. Robert Stafford - 12 snaps
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 38

USF Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 67
RJR. Myles Mooyoung - 6 snaps
JR. Jadais Richard 61
JR. D'Yoni Hill 55
RFR. Robby Washington - 6 snap
RFR. Robert Stafford - 6 snaps
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 45

VT Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 62
JR. Jadais Richard 31
JR. D'Yoni Hill 31
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 35

Cal Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 35
JR. Jadais Richard 68
JR. D'Yoni Hill 39
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 40

Louisville Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 66
JR. Jadais Richard 74
JR. D'Yoni Hill 25
RFR. Robby Washington - 1 snap
RFR. Robert Stafford - 1 snaps
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 49

FSU Snap Count
RSR. Daryl Porter Jr. 50
JR. Jadais Richard 24
JR. D'Yoni Hill 39
RFR. Robby Washington 5
FR. OJ Frederique Jr. 55
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Missed Robby’s 5 reps I guess would love to see how he looked
 
grover said:
I honestly think Guidry believes this cast has the talent just needs reps to gel. It’s the only explanation. But when I watch Harris he looks slow athletically, not just a ME problem, nowhere near as fast as reported. And Hill seems lost out there. Porter fails to track the ball. Richard (hope he’s okay) has hips too stiff for a quality CB. And Meesh is too slow, too slow to react, and a poor tackler when he’s even in position to make one.

Yeah, I’m being harsh. But my point is I don’t think Guidry is right that these guys just need to work through their mistakes. They’re just plain not good enough.

OJ is our new foundation. ZP is now a starter out of necessity, and we need to work Robby in, too. That would go a long way to solving the issues, especially once Damari is back.
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I think someone asked Guidry about this last week/couple weeks ago and Guidry basically he tends to stick with guys who he has “trust” in, but that’s really code for who Guidry has experience with.

In the same way Guidry waits out opposing offenses to revert to film tendencies, Guidry waits to make changes in starting lineup until it’s beyond obvious to make change.

We are playing with fire with our defensive personnel decisions, initial defensive and play calls.

Zaquan starting next week is only because Richard got hurt. So Guidry gets little credit for that adjustment. Need to make the adjustments that we can give him credit for. And with some urgency.
 
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InTheCut said:
Glad I’m not the only one that has been saying this. He’s playing as if he has disinterest in the nickel position. Which is crazy because if he thinks the NFL would consider him for outside corner, he might as well hang up the cleats now.

The way he consistently gives ground on routes from the slot infuriates me. His current play style lacks urgency, making him yet another liability on the backend of this defense (pause).

Problem is that if we move Meesh to nickel, you lose your brain to set the coverage calls for the defense. Harris can’t figure out what angle to take for tackles, and Quan is a true Freshman which would make it a learning curve for him when things are moving fast. This team doesn’t have the luxury to waste this year for him to learn and take the lumps. Only suggestion I would have would be to simplify the calls as much you can and practice giving him the communication to be in his ear to help him prior to the 15 second cutoff.
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But that's what we already done. We oversimplified the **** outta this defense. It's the exact reason we running 90% man and jack **** else. Quan is a lot more advanced in concepts than most several years in. But it's one thing to embrace it in practice and a whole other to have to put it on film on Saturdays.
 
grover said:
I honestly think Guidry believes this cast has the talent just needs reps to gel. It’s the only explanation. But when I watch Harris he looks slow athletically, not just a ME problem, nowhere near as fast as reported. And Hill seems lost out there. Porter fails to track the ball. Richard (hope he’s okay) has hips too stiff for a quality CB. And Meesh is too slow, too slow to react, and a poor tackler when he’s even in position to make one.

Yeah, I’m being harsh. But my point is I don’t think Guidry is right that these guys just need to work through their mistakes. They’re just plain not good enough.

OJ is our new foundation. ZP is now a starter out of necessity, and we need to work Robby in, too. That would go a long way to solving the issues, especially once Damari is back.
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Nah. Just look how often we ran man this year opposed to last year. Man is by far the easiest schematically on a defense for obvious reasons. We been playing the people we have ONLY because of a lack of confidence. But at this point how much worse could it be for a secondary if you stick to the same principles... Not much.
 
grover said:
Looked like they moved pieces around when he went down. Brought in ZP as the deep safety, kept Harris as strong safety (though Quan also stuffed that run coming downhill beautifully), moved Powell to Nickel and Porter to outside. Did I track that right? How do people feel about that?

I want to see more Robby less Dion’s personally. Also, OJF is a baller. Only one who consistently tracks the ball and he’s a true freshman.
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Ojf is by far the greatest performance vs recruiting expectations guy
 
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Brooklyndee said:
Nah. Just look how often we ran man this year opposed to last year. Man is by far the easiest schematically on a defense for obvious reasons. We been playing the people we have ONLY because of a lack of confidence. But at this point how much worse could it be for a secondary if you stick to the same principles... Not much.
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Do you mean that since the DB scheme has been dumbed down so much we might as well try giving more reps to guys that haven't played much, since dumbing it down hasn't helped much with the guys we had confidence in?
 
CDWright40 said:
Robby is a plus athlete for sure.

But to think a kid who never played corner can just transition mid season and be a difference maker isn’t really fair to him. It takes time to understand responsibilities and become good in coverage and tackling. If he plays meaningful snaps at Cb this year and is successful he will be beating the odds.
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He played some DB in high school, a lot of people said his best position in college would be DB during recruiting
 
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Rocketcitycane06 said:
He didn't look this bad though. Also, whatever happened to player development?
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Besides 5 star elite talents like Cici and Bain, who on the team has really been recruited and developed? Bissanthe, Fletcher, Bell, Arroyo and Horton? Moten is solid but nothing special.

McCoy and Cooper both have been shaky this season.

Juries still out on this staffs development skills
 
88 said:
Besides 5 star elite talents like Cici and Bain, who on the team has really been recruited and developed? Bissanthe, Fletcher, Bell, Arroyo and Horton? Moten is solid but nothing special.

McCoy and Cooper both have been shaky this season.

Juries still out on this staffs development skills
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Huh? Lol!!!! Just off the top of my head..Horton, Arroyo, Borragales, and we not giving them credit for Restrepo or George or Rivers?
 
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Yoyo82 said:
Meesh has become serviceable again. He had 2 terrible weeks against VT and Cal but he seems to be diagnosing plays better again and making tackles in space when we need him.
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Agree. Seems most comfortable last 2 weeks but the assignments were pretty basic last 2.
You knew exactly what fsu was and once Duke was playing Duke o.
Even still improving
 
Combo said:
He just gave you a solid list players we've developed (ie have improved significantly since arriving in Coral Gables). WTF are your expectations?
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I'm expecting development...

Definitely give credit to the WR development but defense has been subpar imo.

Its the third year and how many homegrown playable option are in the back 7? How many home grown guys are above average on D line?

This is still a team heavily reliant on transfers.
 
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